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Old 01-13-2014, 02:28 PM
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Okay I get your point, but Fitz has a lot more at stake. He had a large customer base and he knows a lot more about it. I don't know if you saw their calculator video. The guy spins the thing around maybe 60 RPM and then zap, he stops it so it points in a direction. The amount of ideomtor required to stop the rotation is about a factor of 100 of a regular dowsing rod.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:28 PM
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I'm not here to try and tell you all LRL dealers are ethical. But let's not confuse things here. The calculator thingy is not what I consider to be an LRL. It is a disguised dowsing rod.
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:17 PM
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I'm not here to try and tell you all LRL dealers are ethical. But let's not confuse things here. The calculator thingy is not what I consider to be an LRL. It is a disguised dowsing rod.
Any LRL with a swingy handle, and something else attached that "enhances" the signal (whether it's a calculator, some do-nothing electronics, mobile phone, egg box, or whatever) is a disguised dowsing rod. This also includes any contraption (such as an MFD) that supposedly injects a signal into the ground.

So what do you consider to be an LRL?
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:32 PM
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Any LRL with a swingy handle, and something else attached that "enhances" the signal (whether it's a calculator, some do-nothing electronics, mobile phone, egg box, or whatever) is a disguised dowsing rod. This also includes any contraption (such as an MFD) that supposedly injects a signal into the ground.

So what do you consider to be an LRL?
I think random beeping devices should fall into the same category, the only difference being that you turn the device until the random beeping matches your goal.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:02 PM
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I think random beeping devices should fall into the same category, the only difference being that you turn the device until the random beeping matches your goal.
It's the mind's ability to hear patterns in the random noise, that is the most intriguing part of these devices. Far more subtle than a clumsy old swingy handle contraption.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:23 AM
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Okay I get your point, but Fitz has a lot more at stake. He had a large customer base and he knows a lot more about it. I don't know if you saw their calculator video. The guy spins the thing around maybe 60 RPM and then zap, he stops it so it points in a direction. The amount of ideomtor required to stop the rotation is about a factor of 100 of a regular dowsing rod.
Mike, some scammers take their scams seriously, and some scammers make such a joke of their scams that only people begging to be victims will bite. Both make for pretty good entertainment, and for pretty good study of human psychology.
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Hey Look! Carl is a psychologist now. Time for Carl, to Dave J, to go face to face and psychoanalyze each other. And to think of all the time Carl, has wasted on Qiaozhi

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Old 01-14-2014, 04:57 PM
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The frequency 100 hz .. 150 or 200 hz is not for MDF ...you need ever KHZ. For good MDF must be at least 60kHz
and also good power.

Look this details for frequency

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=1722

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=1723

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=1724


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I've looked at again pdf-1000 system Produces 32 Hz frequency oscillator for gold.But the frequency is not transmitted to the groundAnd the output is connected to the GND system
The signal goes to 4 coils for Wheatstone bridge and finally telescopic antenna.
What do you think? What is the reason for this work?
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I don't know much about electronics, but that is not a wheatstone bridge.
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I don't know much about electronics, but that is not a wheatstone bridge.
Ok mike.
Same weathston birdge .
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I don't know much about electronics, but that is not a wheatstone bridge.
It's Wheatstone AC Bridge!!!


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Old 06-17-2016, 08:32 PM
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Mike is correct. It's not a Wheatstone bridge.

Post #34 shows 4 inductors in series that loop back to the same point, Basically, they're might as well not be there. The design is just the usual rubbish - a few random components thrown together to fool the technically challenged.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:18 PM
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I'm not here to defend Bob Fitzgerald's high prices. Like I said I am not that versed in electronics but my logic skills are decent. So my first observation is that skeptics cannot seem to understand that if the designer put it there, it has some purpose. I don't care to discuss my thoughts about how I think it works. But I know well how the skeptic mind works: Refuse to accept something you are envious of (or afraid it might eat into the metal detector profits) and come up with a thousand excuses why it won't work, but never admit the real problem is operator error. It's called the blame game and those who subscribe to it are called prisoners of blame.
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The Sorrows of Young Werther (which fall in love with LRL), walking one direction over Wheatstone bridge.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:23 PM
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So my first observation is that skeptics cannot seem to understand that if the designer put it there, it has some purpose.
But it's obvious why the designer put it there.
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But it's obvious why the designer put it there.
Yes - it is called a scam!
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