New PD

[Aziz]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Watch the second video.

Look accurate at position 30 second. The pistol guy is swinging and its not beeping anymore. He looks back to the operator with a real metal detector behind him, whether he is ready to make the beeping. The background operator wasn't synchronized to the pistol operator.

The video is a fake.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Aziz

The pistol guy is swinging and its not beeping anymore.

Sharp eyelook Aziz. Probably he release start button or forgot to pres ON switch.

I am tend to think that video is real (without hidden tricks) and only detecting hypothesis is completely wrong.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Aziz

Look accurate at position 30 second. The pistol guy is swinging and its not beeping anymore. He looks back to the operator with a real metal detector behind him, whether he is ready to make the beeping. The background operator wasn't synchronized to the pistol operator.

The video is a fake.

I do not think that Geo is interested in making fake videos. This appears to be a true record of Geo's LRL experiments, unlike a certain other member (who will go unmentioned) that has a vested interest in this subject.

However, there is a question regarding the speed that the LRL must be moved from side to side in order to get a signal. My immediate reaction is that the signal is being produced by earth field effect. I would like to see the experiment repeated at the same sweep speed, and same settings, either without the target or simply pointed in a different direction. Maybe the design could also be modified to allow a slower sweep speed to be used(?).

[Geo]

Originally Posted by WM6

Nice Geo, to read that you are pleased with results.

If so I will take one piece of your currency detector back for our government to fill again empty state budget with solid currency.

Is your state budget empty as our at Greece???
If yes.... then all we have a big problem

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Ok I got it. Thank you.
I edited my post accordingly.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
I will try to answer you later.... ( i need more time)
Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Fred

Thanks for the videos Geo,
I wish you could have made the very same movements on other directions, while standing at the same place, each time you change.

Fred, sorry but i did not understand what you mean (my bad english!!! and the bad translator)

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Your new PD design is very nice,and looks much more easy to operate than the other one in the garage.
You are very near to catch the treasure,with this one

Thank you Morgan.
I wish you better results at your LRL.
Maybe now it is your time to visit Greece (to change technologies)

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by WM6

Maybe we have a little problem with pinpointing (or with moving ferrite coil in earth magnetism?):

It is not the best LRL.
Yes it has a small problem at pinpoint (some cm) but no problem. I have sound at a big area but the center is at the hightest sound. If i will connect a buzzer with a 555 or a signal instrument then the results will be better (for you, for me will be the same).

[Geo]

Originally Posted by mikebg

Geo, maybe WM6 will believe that your PD is neither OTD nor yet magnetometer if the PD stands still (without an operator nearby) and the coin moves alone without an assistant close by. For this purpose, must be stretched a rope with a slight tilt between two olive trees and to place on it a trolley with coin. A thread may be used to pull the trolley in opposite direction.

There are better solutions, for example if i put the lrl on a rotating base

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Aziz

Look accurate at position 30 second. The pistol guy is swinging and its not beeping anymore. He looks back to the operator with a real metal detector behind him, whether he is ready to make the beeping. The background operator wasn't synchronized to the pistol operator.

The video is a fake.

Hi Aziz.
Video is not fake.
I don't sell detectors so no reason to make a fake video for here. When i look back to the operator i say him to come back from me so to take exactly the center of the beep.
But I can not be banned for believing that the video is fake

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

I do not think that Geo is interested in making fake videos. This appears to be a true record of Geo's LRL experiments, unlike a certain other member (who will go unmentioned) that has a vested interest in this subject.

However, there is a question regarding the speed that the LRL must be moved from side to side in order to get a signal. My immediate reaction is that the signal is being produced by earth field effect. I would like to see the experiment repeated at the same sweep speed, and same settings, either without the target or simply pointed in a different direction. Maybe the design could also be modified to allow a slower sweep speed to be used(?).

Hi Qiaozhi.
I try for it.... remember the previous video, it needed highter sweep speed.....

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi Geo,

I have two questions:

1. Does this locator beep at the gold coin when it is placed on top of the ground? Or when it is held in the air? Or must the coin be buried to hear the locator beep?

2. Will the locator beep for the gold when there is no tree near the test area?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Aziz]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Aziz.
Video is not fake.
I don't sell detectors so no reason to make a fake video for here. When i look back to the operator i say him to come back from me so to take exactly the center of the beep.
But I can not be banned for believing that the video is fake

Regards

Hi Geo,

you can fool everybody but not me!
Please, do a fair play.

Aziz

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Geo

Is your state budget empty as our at Greece???
If yes.... then all we have a big problem

Yes Geo, empty, or better to say Full on negative side.

We will need a lot of treasures to solve our budgets, so very speedy developments of your pistol is needed.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Qiaozhi.
I try for it.... remember the previous video, it needed highter sweep speed.....

Regards

That would be good, and would also remove any possibility that the signal is caused by earth field effect. Maybe you could also make a video with the LRL stationary, but with the coin being moved.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

That would be good, and would also remove any possibility that the signal is caused by earth field effect. Maybe you could also make a video with the LRL stationary, but with the coin being moved.

I would also like to see this.

Maybe you could tie a string to a gold ring and drag it across the ground in front of the locator to see if it beeps when the ring enters the field, then stops beeping when the ring leaves the field.
If you need a fast sweep, then use a fishing rod with a ring tied to the end of a fishing line. You can make a fast sweep when using a fishing rod.
Same like we do with metal detectors - except use a string so we will know it is not detecting a static field from someone walking in front of it.

Then after showing this, point the locator a different direction and repeat it to see if it works the same at other directions and locations.
Of course, this should be done in an open field where there are no trees nearby or fence posts or other suspicious things like electronic equipment, for example.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Aziz

Look accurate at position 30 second. The pistol guy is swinging and its not beeping anymore. He looks back to the operator with a real metal detector behind him, whether he is ready to make the beeping. The background operator wasn't synchronized to the pistol operator.

The video is a fake.

i dont think this video is a fake,Geo invited anyone to travel to greece and see the test...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Geo

Thank you Morgan.
I wish you better results at your LRL.
Maybe now it is your time to visit Greece (to change technologies)

Regards

I would like,but at the moment i´m very busy.
Anyway if this happens i will take with me one PDK for competition

Thanks for the invitation

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Geo

Fred, sorry but i did not understand what you mean (my bad english!!! and the bad translator)

Regards

Hi Geo,
Same as what Qiaozhi said, trying pointing somewhere else with same movement
The rotating ideia with just the coin being moved could be interesting too.

[mikebg]

Originally Posted by Geo

There are better solutions, for example if i put the lrl on a rotating base

However if the PD moves, it will detect earth magnetizm and olive trees

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Geo,

I have two questions:

1. Does this locator beep at the gold coin when it is placed on top of the ground? Or when it is held in the air? Or must the coin be buried to hear the locator beep?

2. Will the locator beep for the gold when there is no tree near the test area?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
1.The locator does not beep if the coin is held in the air.
2. Let us be serious. Of course the locator beep if no trees around.

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by WM6

Yes Geo, empty, or better to say Full on negative side.

We will need a lot of treasures to solve our budgets, so very speedy developments of your pistol is needed.

Don't afraid..... i am here

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

That would be good, and would also remove any possibility that the signal is caused by earth field effect. Maybe you could also make a video with the LRL stationary, but with the coin being moved.

I will make a new video when i will finish some modifications. But now i am very busy

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Fred

Hi Geo,
Same as what Qiaozhi said, trying pointing somewhere else with same movement
The rotating ideia with just the coin being moved could be interesting too.

Thanks for explain

[Geo]

Originally Posted by mikebg

However if the PD moves, it will detect earth magnetizm and olive trees

Okay, let's say that detects earth magnetism. When it detects a coin from any place and on any terrain , it is enough for me