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07-02-2009, 06:57 AM
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Hi Vistac 2000  In my opinion nationality not important. Suggestion our dear friend ivconic was good.  Construct LRL devise which finally work having some problems. Problem one, you need test aria and test condition. In other words You need know place which conation treasure and very long buried valuable Metals. Ok, if you know that place, why need to LRL?  Second , in my opinion at the first you need know theory of action . I am scientific ,for me very important at the first theory and I research About it. I am serious about LRL. but consider , this way has many secret .  Best regards. 
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07-02-2009, 07:54 AM
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Hi aft_72005
Thanks... Are you any knowledge about building or testing Gradiometer/Magnetometer ? with best wishes, vistac2000 
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07-02-2009, 08:15 AM
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Hi ivcoinc,
please check your yahoo mail... 
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07-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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07-02-2009, 01:29 PM
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who is the ying , and who's the yang ? You know ...with LRLs... you must be careful at definitions... it's a confusing topic. Kind regards, Max
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07-02-2009, 01:39 PM
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don't you remember the posts about the brass tea boiler...  memory loss ? This kind of things... were/are really popular in some parts of the world still today. Also, the picture shows specific informations if you look carefully. Faces can say much of people's origins, but often mistakes are possible... how e.g. discriminate between true chinese people and e.g. vietnamese chinese-minority people (Zhuang) by faces only ? It's like trying to discriminate between true africans black people and some black US citizens... plain impossible, genetics it's not enough in these cases. So, other factors you'll must take into account... Kind regards, Max
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07-02-2009, 01:47 PM
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though the gradiometer can't locate gold (unless we talk of tons of it) or any other diamagnetic metal you have good ability of locate deep ferromagnetic stuff... This could be useful in the case the treasure is not gold alone or other precius item but also have e.g. an iron box ... or there are iron artifacts e.g. in a tunnel or underground room and the like. In your country it's possible that... cause underground rooms were employed to hide such stuff... from very ancient time. You could also locate a ferromagnetic item that has a value for its historical background... everything is possible. But take care... required. Remember that magnetometers/gradiometers must be used with lot of care... in areas where are old e.g. mines or unexploded bombs and similar stuff... indeed it's very easy in such places finding that way , at even very high depth of several meters, big and dangerous things. Sure... something with discrimination would be better and save work and troubles... but at depth we are talking about nothing really exist that can discriminate stuff. Kind regards, Max
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07-02-2009, 01:48 PM
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Therefore yin goes together with LRLs quite well. Yang is also considered to be masculine, and yin is feminine ... but we won't go there!
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You know... always they talk of pistols, rods, antennas... kinda of obsession! Maybe all this it's size related, inverse proportional... Kind regards, Max
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About the Yin, feminine, i didn´t know it was related to the hidden side
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I remember once I saw one... in a house... of an old man, was not in use anymore, of course, kind of relics from another age I think. I asked him about and he provided lot of informations about... then we drink but not tea... good Madeira if I remember well. But this is another story... Kind regards, Max
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07-02-2009, 06:45 PM
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Hi MAX,
you say gradiometer can't locate gold or treasure?! Thus what device can locate treasure in 2-3 meter or even more depth under ground ? with best wishes, vistac2000
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07-03-2009, 04:55 AM
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Hi Max I agree , completely true My opinion was , vistac 2000 picture is nice girl . May be intentional , he uploaded nice girl picture for attracting. As detectoman said “ new strategy “ to secrets of LRLland ? Best regards.
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07-03-2009, 05:34 AM
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Can a gradiometer detect a deeply buried brass tea boiler? Maybe a RangerTell Examiner could... or a PD? Best wishes, J_P
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07-03-2009, 06:07 AM
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Hi aft_72005,
You must have a better action with a girl... Are you from IRAN ? We come here to share our knowledge, not to deceive each other... I can ascertain to you that I am a girl, although this is not important that what you think about me ... Let's be better .... anyway, There isn't and other idea about building and using Gradiometer ?!!!
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07-03-2009, 07:12 AM
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hi vistac 2000 excuse me lady.  I built various tape metal detectors with success at all . I am very interesting about Long range detectors, and research now. If reach to level that I know theory complete. I am be able design circuit ( I am no reproducer , no seller ) Only for myself Also I very thanking from my LRL friend, I am under promised to my Friend . therefore nothing any for more answer. Best regards.
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07-03-2009, 07:29 AM
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Hi J_Player At the first how are you friend? I forget, Max on right way. Gradiometer doesn’t detect nonferrous metals. I didn’t work with RangerTell Examiner therefore don’t have opinion. About PD , studying …………………………………… Best regards.
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07-03-2009, 12:32 PM
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small diamagnetic masses are not detected by magnetometers/gradiometers... (well, not fully right... some are better than others... but we are talking here of fluxgate sensors equipped gradiometer like EPE project is). If we talk of large masses, in the tons range maybe you have some possibility to get useful signal from a simple gradiometer too. (opposite deviation respect to ferromagnetic... diamagnetic materials distort magnetic fields in a way you can see lowered intensity respect to background level... but then can confuse with voids too) But I don't know of such large treasures , involving tons of gold or other diamagnetic valuable metals... the few ones I rememeber are mostly from ship wrecks e.g. spanish near bahama islands / florida not in e.g. underground rooms in the middle east... maybe them exist... but I don't know. I think the best solution for 2-3meters depth is a PI detector with a large coil like the old pulsestarII and newer/other ones. That's cause they give you continous reading (gradiometers can do the same... but response time in somehow slow respect mds) and accurate localization of the metallic mass. If the e.g. gold mass is in the Kgs order then no simple gradiometer will see it... but the depth PI will , and you could also (roughly) discriminate targets (even if I don't suggest you do that cause better dig anything than missing good stuff). The problem is, of course, that if you locate a buried pipe at 3 meters... to be sure you must dig a pit of 3 meters... reach the target and then waste time and efforts for nothing. But if you know you're in a RICH place... full of GOOD items it's worth finding a pipe or rusty iron stuff from time to time... but also the valuable stuff. Kind regards, Max
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07-03-2009, 12:35 PM
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Memory losses... Details are important. Kind regards, Max
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07-03-2009, 12:42 PM
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Kind regards, Max
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Yes he is, i thought you where his sister... Anyway why don´t you want to use a regular metal detector, or for big objects a two boxes or something similar? If it is for you own use and in a such historically rich country it should be enought to find what you need. And there is enought info on this forum to build good ones. As i said earlier, there is no proven working LRL in the world,(Sorry Esteban ) so if your interest resides in developing one this is cool, but you have a long way to go.Good luck, Fred.
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07-03-2009, 06:59 PM
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Hi Fred,
Thanks, Yes there are some info about two boxes, But which two box is better for building...?
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07-03-2009, 07:13 PM
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Hi ivconic,
Did you get my mail ?! I waiting for you...
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, any way this is what’s you want .
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