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Old 10-11-2008, 11:16 PM
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I have seen many post from you asking for diagrams to begin to build a LRL : now you have them...
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Yes,it works,and i say its easy to build !!!
Of course Pistoldetektor,as i said before,works much better...
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:22 PM
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Anyone going for Carl's gold yet.
I see circuits but no one is going for Carl's GOLD.
I will go back to lurking.
Carl´s buried Gold consist in fresh samples. Only one crazy man go to this challenge with LRL device who works only with long time ago (buried) gold. I also put here my challenge with my conditions...
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:37 PM
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Hi Morgan , L1 (PCB2) and L2 (PCB2) .

So open loop anten ?

The headphones please not use them,you should use speaker,or you get a lot of erratic signals because of the moving cable.
If you have more powerful BFO,can use acording the connections in the schematics.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:50 PM
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Yes,we made like this because its logical,and you said it woks.
And i can see in this photo you use near the coil some kind of IONIC CHAMBER. I know also,that its possible to polarize one gold leaf inside the tube. This will make device more selective to find only GOLD !!!
Can you teach,how to do this ionic chamber?

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Shhh!!!! There are spy!!!
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:47 AM
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Now I don't know about you but I do know a lil electronics.....
JUST LOOK AT THAT CIRCUIT AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU SEEEEEEEE.
NOT A METAL DETECTOR FOR LONG RANGE.
If i'm wrong can other please tell me what you see in this circuit?
Carl can you tell us what you see in this circuit with two 9v on it.
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:05 AM
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Now I don't know about you but I do know a lil electronics.....
JUST LOOK AT THAT CIRCUIT AND PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU SEEEEEEEE.
NOT A METAL DETECTOR FOR LONG RANGE.
If i'm wrong can other please tell me what you see in this circuit?
Carl can you tell us what you see in this circuit with two 9v on it.
I made and try two diferent ion detectors. Alone they cant detect the phenomenon of long time ago buried metals,only other energies around. They need other circuits to help them to find the metals.
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Old 10-12-2008, 05:06 AM
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hi i has built ...........
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:09 PM
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Shhh!!!! There are spy!!!
Esteban,
What is the problem of people knowing how to build it ? they are not going to search for YOUR treasures, so why don´t you want to give all the details?
And even if Chineses company are making it, you will be the one that invented it.
Like Da Vinci and the helicopter
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Old 10-12-2008, 05:31 PM
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What is the problem of people knowing how to build it ? they are not going to search for YOUR treasures, so why don´t you want to give all the details?
And even if Chineses company are making it, you will be the one that invented it.
Like Da Vinci and the helicopter
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I'm not afraid by treasures, these can exist or not. Will be invented if patented. Show in a forum is not guarantee of "pioneerism".

By the way, if somebody copy, they will manage the invention and I'll manage the idea . So, they will make money but no me.

Of course, Da Vinci stay poor and war industry is very rich.
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I have "invented" some magnetic sensor than this and other 100 different kinds. But just this is not for gold.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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hi i has built ...........
This one you have built as 5 antennas but even if you put 10 or 100 it not locate LTA buried metals. As i told,and Esteban know very well,you need to mix the circuit with one Frequency oscilator or make the same as MINEORO devices using the ionic chamber(Gold leaf saturated by 11 Hz pulses coming from the circuit to the Anode,all this spikes charge the gold positively,this is one secret,that i wold like to know better...) .
The big failure with LRL Zahory´s in this forum its becouse they use only pure ionic circuits,extremely sensitives but not enough to locate the buried metals.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:23 AM
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I'm not afraid by treasures, these can exist or not. Will be invented if patented. Show in a forum is not guarantee of "pioneerism".

By the way, if somebody copy, they will manage the invention and I'll manage the idea . So, they will make money but no me.

Of course, Da Vinci stay poor and war industry is very rich.
Then patent your idea. If you do not patent, you will stay poor whether you keep it to yourself or show it to others, no?...Unless you are finding a lot of treasures which in that case, who cares about the instrument.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:00 PM
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Then patent your idea. If you do not patent, you will stay poor whether you keep it to yourself or show it to others, no?...Unless you are finding a lot of treasures which in that case, who cares about the instrument.
Regards.
When you get the working LRL equipment,you will get the conclusion : There are not so many treasures around where you live,so its also to invest a lot of money in big travels in the country or around the World...
Of course if Esteban give to you or the others the secret of one working LRL,his cousin Alonso kill him,imagine Mineoro stop the business,and big companies like White´s,Fisher,start mass productions of better quality LRL´s based on Esteban& Alonso discoveries.
I already put information in this forum ,enough to build one working LRL Pistoldetektor,and because of this Esteban is very desapointed with me...
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:08 PM
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When you get the working LRL equipment,you will get the conclusion : There are not so many treasures around where you live,so its also to invest a lot of money in big travels in the country or around the World...
Of course if Esteban give to you or the others the secret of one working LRL,his cousin Alonso kill him,imagine Mineoro stop the business,and big companies like White´s,Fisher,start mass productions of better quality LRL´s based on Esteban& Alonso discoveries.
I already put information in this forum ,enough to build one working LRL Pistoldetektor,and because of this Esteban is very desapointed with me...
If someone here,as knolenge about ionic/electrostatic energies,i would like to construct the ionic chamber,based on the information from MineoroGreece member. This would be very useful to put the ionic devices more selective,finding only the GOLD.
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:35 PM
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When you get the working LRL equipment,you will get the conclusion : There are not so many treasures around where you live,so its also to invest a lot of money in big travels in the country or around the World...
Of course if Esteban give to you or the others the secret of one working LRL,his cousin Alonso kill him,imagine Mineoro stop the business,and big companies like White´s,Fisher,start mass productions of better quality LRL´s based on Esteban& Alonso discoveries.
I already put information in this forum ,enough to build one working LRL Pistoldetektor,and because of this Esteban is very desapointed with me...
hi at hall and hi morgan now i work outside my country but i'm shure in my country we have MANY;MANY;MANY treasure "small and big" that waiting to be found and i said this not for to came in my country but because the istory of italy is very long and I know people who have already 'found without electrical component but only plowing the land with bulldozers and tractors or while digging the foundations of our house but not only archeological treasure , in the second war too we have the treasure that the germany army took and hid in churches or in italy bank


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Old 10-13-2008, 02:54 PM
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If someone here,as knolenge about ionic/electrostatic energies,i would like to construct the ionic chamber,based on the information from MineoroGreece member. This would be very useful to put the ionic devices more selective,finding only the GOLD.
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I´m waithing more information about this ionic chamber,maybe someone can help?
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:41 PM
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Of course if Esteban give to you or the others the secret of one working LRL,his cousin Alonso kill him,imagine Mineoro stop the business..
I heard alonso is poor, that is not going to make much difference.And i suppose you only would have to buy one and copy it if there is no patents.But we talked about this before

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I´m waithing more information about this ionic chamber,maybe someone can help?
I don´t think epoxy as isolant is good enought
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PS: the best info i have ever seen about this is here: http://www.techlib.com/science/ion.html
If a ion chamber detects treasures then with this one , from your country you are going to detect Putrechigi´s treasure...
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:16 PM
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I heard alonso is poor, that is not going to make much difference.And i suppose you only would have to buy one and copy it if there is no patents.But we talked about this before


I don´t think epoxy as isolant is good enought
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PS: the best info i have ever seen about this is here: http://www.techlib.com/science/ion.html
If a ion chamber detects treasures then with this one , from your country you are going to detect Putrechigi´s treasure...
Hi Fred

Wat i understand about the ion chamber information you give :

The center antenna its the Catode(-)

The metal tube its the Anode (+)

And wath about the GOLD leaf??? Where mineoro connect the gold leaf?

Regards
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:27 PM
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Wat i understand about the ion chamber information you give :
The center antenna its the Catode(-)
The metal tube its the Anode (+)
And wath about the GOLD leaf??? Where mineoro connect the gold leaf?
Regards
I think the gold leaf is a proprietary secret of mineoro i don´t know what is its (real) purpose...
Now the these things inside the chamber are all electrodes, being cathode or anode merely depends on the use you make of them,i.e. the potentials applied to them...
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I'm not afraid by treasures, these can exist or not. Will be invented if patented. Show in a forum is not guarantee of "pioneerism".

By the way, if somebody copy, they will manage the invention and I'll manage the idea . So, they will make money but no me.

Of course, Da Vinci stay poor and war industry is very rich.
Very well said Esteban.
It's exactly that!
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:55 PM
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Very well said Esteban.
It's exactly that!
Yes!
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:22 PM
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Is this some U.F.O engine or it is something you know very well ???
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:24 PM
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Then patent your idea. If you do not patent, you will stay poor whether you keep it to yourself or show it to others, no?...Unless you are finding a lot of treasures which in that case, who cares about the instrument.
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Very well said Steve,
It is exactly that!!
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
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of course, Da Vinci stay poor and war industry is very rich.
Yes, but centuries after we still remember Da Vinci but we forget about war manufacturer
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:30 AM
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Yes, but centuries after we still remember Da Vinci but we forget about war manufacturer
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