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You only give the importance you want to this kind of comments. I hope i will live long enough to be called rat many many time  Anyway rats are super intelligent.Seriously Geo, i am sure Max will keep this thread clean, any offensive or undesirable post can be reported (the famous red triangle, hihi) and deleted on request. this is intended to be only technical, and Morgan already answered important questions. 
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A lot of LRL believers have lost their credibility. And they have deserved the right asz kick. No matter what you think. There is some point arrived, to stop them.
Eat this: I do not have any pity with scammers, frauds, liars, b$ & pseudo science spreaders.... Comeon, tell us: how it works and what are you measuring?  Aziz
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The PD,also work,but is not AUTOMATIC,and is the hard way to build one LRL...
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I think Morgan's answers are an answer about what they measure and how it "works": they measure incoming rf waves, probably from a distant transmitter e.g. time signal one operating in the LF band the ferrite we know is directive and ferrite coils have a minimum reception when aligned as in the PD, so they look for minimal coupling with far transmitter I think till that is simple rf stuff... no big stuff about electronics how it works ? uhm... maybe it's supposed that the target introduce some magnetic anomaly and let receiver detect alterated signal e.g. amplitude, I'm not sure, but they use AM demodulation and filter, so it's easy think it's an amplitude issue there... not FM stuff or anything else otherwise circuit will be much different; then a beeper signals the "anomaly" if any... it works ? I don't know, have many dubts about... remainds me much the goldgun al718 , a simple rf receiver for vlf range, with dual ferrite and opposite windings but too many here reported that goldgun doesn't work as LRL...  but maybe all is at tuning and choosing the right transmitter, or maybe it doesn't rely in a specific transmitter but on background rf noise in that frequency range... who knows... even the goldgun is somehow "broadband" thing, intentionally not selective receiver... regards Max
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Again! This is Science were talking about, Not I BELEIVE kinda thing.
Now could you use words like, Theory, Hypothesis, Experiments, Conclusions, Facts? It is a proven fact that I Walked across the coin and the Black Box signaled. Proven by this Obscured test. ?????? Something? Give me Something I can see, Judge and comment on. Not I KNOW THIS WORKS.
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Not serious. B$ science. Beam me up Scotty! Aziz ------------------X LRL believer: cut this here X----------------- Remember: We are obviously dealing with VLF and LF frequencies, which have a long RF wave lengths. And the mentioned LRL detectors being used in the passive mode (only receiving and amplifying). Fact: Small objects are invisible to the long RF waves. I refer to small objects like: coins, gold rings, etc. Again: WTF, what are you guys measuring? (I know it of course.) Aziz ------------------X LRL believer: cut this here X-----------------
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Do you know too? Comeon tell us, what are you measuring? Aziz
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Aziz a question for you Hypothesis. If you know "what are you measuring" after two-ten-twenty years study, can you publish this? I think your answer is a No!!! For example i know well "what measuring", but i am not crazy, publish here the real physics about this. You are a noname man , i am a noname man too, why must be trust you or other member and publish real infos here? For glory? For a bravo? From what? Sorry my friend, but answers for your questions, i think you must be find alone. I think with "open mind" ..maybe you can find solutions. This is not a personal attack for you, but the true. Here we have hobbist users, commercials users etc. Real infos i think we can not publish here regards
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But tell me the real truth and provable facts. What are you measuring? Cheers, Aziz
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I write my post with logic I you have "interest" for find measuring, do you believe i can send you? Why must be send to you this infos? You are my friend? For a " ....thank you" or for a "....yes rubin you are correct" Do you know my real name or i know your real face? Please send me a logic meaning, why i must publish for all world this infos Please don't you write here ".... for science", because, this is a joke... with members here hunting information for commercial use. I repeat again, you must try alone for true, with "open mind" . Sometimes solution is.. very near my friend, but you need make experiments, see with your eyes real results. Believe me
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Actually this thread is for people that have something to say, and we are listening. Be able to listen in silence is a sign of wisdom, and key to become smarter. You are sceptic, fine, but let people speak.Morgan or Geo are not scammers, they are convinced their LRL works even if they don´t understand on what principles, so lets hear what they have to say and try to sort this out.
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Sorry, but I'm not a believer. You can convince me with scientific reproducable facts, which must be provable by independent experiments. Stop talking B$! Contribute something valuable to the thread please. What are the LRL guys measuring? (simple question) Cheers, Aziz
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I'm waiting for their explanation or interpretation. Cheers, Aziz
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just if you think about e.g. reflection of waves the small stuff is "invisible" to large wavelength... and all we know, an easy example all we know is about VLF MDs that works at 5-15KHz ok , let's say that we have an MD such kind working at 5KHz --> wavelength will be around 60Km , huge number... so we cannot detect a coin of 2cm diameter ? it's just 0.00002 kilomemeters and 3.333*10^-7 wavelengths diameter, but we detect it in the range of MD quite easy... cause we measure eddy currents effects in it, not reflection  so let them explain what they measure... if they know 
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That is right AZIZ, just like another major PI detector company that you & me hate. They need to prove to us that their ideas are better than us geniuses. And no, I am not that Doug, but this Doug!
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For thread? For you? For sceptics men? orrrr for copy men I repeat again, i want from you a logic, why my person or Esteban,Morgan,Geo etc etc must be publish here real infos. Why you don't put here free, your personal software or personal hex files or your secret schematics? I think your personal projects with strong job, you cannot put free here, because you know after few days, your "strong job" is... commercial use from others For example I am sceptic man... is software for coils and electromagnetic fields design by Aziz or not? If yes, please publish here free. For me.... you have a "bravo" and a big "beleive you" This is only a example regards
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Before me, you must answer to J_P!!!!! for "If VLF is not capable of detecting as I speculate, then what is causing Morgan's VLF detector to beep 2 meters distance from the buried gold medal which has been buried a long time in his test garden? "
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Aziz thinks that he knows everything so all who believe at different things are liars .Anyway he is child yet..... Regards 
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look at this (factory) device and read how it works. It works in different ways and can detect metallic parts a way smaller than 1 wavelength of frequency (33kHz) used. And It is not about eddy current method. There are other other possibilities to detect something metallic underground not only by well proven eddy current method. Metallic parts can reflect all wavelength not only those in his own size, but very long wavelength are very dispersive and hard to detectable as echo from small parts. There are other possibilities too, all metallic parts has his own resonance (on full or part of wavelength), etc. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...25&postcount=7
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