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 Hung, the photos are on the link I posted. Left click on the photo to enlarge them.Theseus, you are an excellent example of W.I.S. 
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These photos look like the Vernell VR-800 and the Dell VR-800. Hmmmm... aren't the frequency discrimination electronics inside these units the same as the electronics that you used to find coins hidden in the sand for Randi? Aren't they the same kind of electronics that you used at the beach when you said "conditions deteriorated", and then later claimed that Randi lied about the test results, and you claimed you really did find the hidden coins that Randi says you failed at? Best wishes, J_P
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Anyway, I asked you about the oscope because if done properly, you are able to determine the different frequencies. All the best.
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The antenna was directional. When the antenna was rotated and aligned with the target, the audio would buzz, the meter would deflect, and the line across the oscilloscope screen would change from straight to jagged. Dell
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I thought the basic 555 timer/oscillator circuits used in the VR-800 existed a few years before they were released as production circuits for consumers. It seems likely you would have used the same circuits during the Randi tests. But I guess I was wrong, and you used a different kind of circuit during those tests in the sand. So what kind of circuits did you use at the time? Best wishes. J_P
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Esteban I wanted to ask you what is the difference between off resonance and BFO?
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BFO and Off-resonance detectors are closely related, as they both rely on a metal target causing the TX oscillator to shift in frequency. In the BFO the TX signal is mixed with the output from a second internal oscillator (known as the local oscillator) to produce a beat frequency in the audio range. When the TX frequency changes, the audo note also changes. However, in the Off-resonance detector, the TX output is fed into a tuned circuit that is tuned off-resonance. The output of this circuit gives an amplitude change which can be used to trigger an audio output or a meter. So the only "audible" difference is that the BFO has a constant threshold tone that changes in frequency, whereas the Off-resonance detector can be silent search and only beeps when a certain threshold is reached. They both have about the same sensitivity to metal targets.
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Thanks Qiaozhi for your explanation. Does anybody have a complete schematic for a stable off resonance detector here?
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these vlf circuit of rakes, whit ic lm1458, i use for succes two box is not critic and very stable, put 150 turns wire may be cal. 28 or 29, or other, too put one simple oscilator one transistor, how tx put here large capacitor tubular old, very basic, 150 turns and voila
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HI Esteban
can you help to made this detecter and give we all instructions & schematic? thx
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Why you sceptics make it so complicated:
take this LRL stuff to some real scientific test and if it doesn't work sue the producer for fraud! And the same should be done with so called sensitive persons, parapsychic guys and fortune tellers!
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it is a long time i did't see any reply of esteban in this forum.............;ok i sent you 2 messages to your hotmail why did't reponse ?
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Nobody who produces LRLs has agreed to take their products for any kind of test that resembles scientific except for a few isolated incidents in which the LRL failed. There are several scientific tests available where any producer of LRLs can have their product tested for free. But no producers will send their product to be tested. As far as I have seen, no producers of LRLs has conducted their own scientific test either. Since skeptics don't produce non-working LRLs, they don't have them on hand for testing. This does not seem complication to understand. The people who do manufacture LRLs do not permit them to be tested in a scientific test. This does not seem complicated to understand either. I have an LRL on loan which is ready for any kind of test by any skeptic or non skeptic. So far, all people who tried could not find any good results with it. The invitations to anyone who wants to try it have shown there are no so-called "sensitive" persons who are willing to test it either. The only complication I can see is people don't want to admit that nobody who believes LRLs work is willing to allow their LRLs to be tested in a scientific test. This is not hard to observe after reading this forum and other LRL forums. Yet we see people pretending things are complicated to understand, and blaming it on skeptics. The fact is it is not complicated. Let the owners of LRLs who want people to believe they work show some scientific tests to demonstrate that their claims are true. I haven't ever seen that happen. Best wishes, J_P
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