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Old 07-13-2008, 02:05 PM
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very good.

It's time to light the dang cigar...

Esteban follow my advice: buy or make a serious detector... instead of playing with toys and old radios!

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Max,

Don't worry, always I make serious detector and also non-very serious.

But radio is just a kind of example. And don't know why radio can detect buried old items, but can do it!

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Max,

Don't worry, always I make serious detector and also non-very serious.

But radio is just a kind of example. And don't know why radio can detect buried old items, but can do it!

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Non-very serious device,for this devices please not ask 3000 EURO,OR IT BECOMES A SERIOUS PROBLEM
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Old 07-13-2008, 02:55 PM
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Non-very serious device,for this devices please not ask 3000 EURO,OR IT BECOMES A SERIOUS PROBLEM
Sorry, nothing to do with me! Is not my case!

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Old 07-13-2008, 03:48 PM
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Sorry, nothing to do with me! Is not my case!

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I know that,it as only to do with your buisness partner...
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:54 PM
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ESTEBAN, Yes please view front PCB side .

(Excuse my for bad english).
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:17 AM
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I know that,it as only to do with your buisness partner...
You're wrong, is my cousin-friend, not business partner!

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ESTEBAN, Yes please view front PCB side .

(Excuse my for bad english).
No pics I take of PCB front. Sorry.

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Old 07-14-2008, 04:03 PM
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With or without mods, same crap!
Non working, money taking crap!

Esteban you must be a very rich man playing randomly with such expensive "device"?
Chookam!
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Old 07-14-2008, 04:18 PM
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With or without mods, same crap!
Non working, money taking crap!

Esteban you must be a very rich man playing randomly with such expensive "device"?
Chookam!
Welcome to the noise!
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Old 07-14-2008, 05:01 PM
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Robert is back!! Robert is back!! everyone : hide yourself!
welcome back robert.
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ESTEBAN ,though thanks.
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Robert is back!! Robert is back!! everyone : hide yourself!
welcome back robert.
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Thanks Fred!
I've back for few days only, no need to hide.
Just wanted to say 'hello' to Esteban
Still playing with Mineoro!? Man oh man!
Good character,persistent,pitty you are wasting it on wrong things
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:17 AM
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Thanks Fred!
I've back for few days only, no need to hide.
Just wanted to say 'hello' to Esteban
Still playing with Mineoro!? Man oh man!
Good character,persistent,pitty you are wasting it on wrong things
Hello!

Just this Mineoro was extremely failed, no random, just beeps in threshold, but never random! Well, with some new PCBs attached (wich replaced others), is more sensitive, and not random!

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Hello!

Just this Mineoro was extremely failed, no random, just beeps in threshold, but never random! Well, with some new PCBs attached (wich replaced others), is more sensitive, and not random!

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Hi Esteban

I think you should spend more time with real working LRL devices,lets say THE PISTOLDETECTOR.
I get more practice and make modiifications with PD device and get good results.But people here still not believe it works so i decide to invite some of them to field tests,but they should bring PD to try performance against my PD,its some kind of challenge
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:10 PM
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Hi Esteban

I think you should spend more time with real working LRL devices,lets say THE PISTOLDETECTOR.
I get more practice and make modiifications with PD device and get good results.But people here still not believe it works so i decide to invite some of them to field tests,but they should bring PD to try performance against my PD,its some kind of challenge
Morgan

I know that PD based on coils like you build works fine. Look these

5-12-2006:

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ghlight=pistol

8-15-2007:

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ghlight=pistol

And etc., etc.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:21 PM
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[quote=Esteban;74977]Morgan

I know that PD based on coils like you build works fine. Look these

5-12-2006:

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ghlight=pistol

8-15-2007:

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ghlight=pistol

And etc., etc. [/quot
This photos are old BFO pistoldetector tipe.
You think its possible to adapt PCB5 and buzzer to BFO metal detector and make LRL PD ?
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:27 PM
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You think its possible to adapt PCB5 and buzzer to BFO metal detector and make LRL PD ?
Well I'm not Esteban, but I'm working on several enhancements to 'turbo' this PD for long range. My only problem now is time... Have my own system to take care.
Anyway, be patient and you will see what this PD will be like.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:34 PM
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Morgan

I know that PD based on coils like you build works fine. Look these

5-12-2006:

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ghlight=pistol

8-15-2007:

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...ghlight=pistol

And etc., etc. [/quot
This photos are old BFO pistoldetector tipe.
You think its possible to adapt PCB5 and buzzer to BFO metal detector and make LRL PD ?
Not all are BFO. The blue/green pistol is induction/balance, not BFO.

You can make a BFO and replace the IB coils and PCB by BFO and connect BFO audio out to buzzer PCB.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:37 PM
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Well I'm not Esteban, but I'm working on several enhancements to 'turbo' this PD for long range. My only problem now is time... Have my own system to take care.
Anyway, be patient and you will see what this PD will be like.
Will be patient and wait...
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Not all are BFO. The blue/green pistol is induction/balance, not BFO.

You can make a BFO and replace the IB coils and PCB by BFO and connect BFO audio out to buzzer PCB.
I already made some time ago one BFO detector.
Can you explain where to make PCB5 conections to BFO PCB,or if needs ferrite?...

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[quote=Esteban;75139Not all are BFO. The blue/green pistol is induction/balance, not BFO.
You can make a BFO and replace the IB coils and PCB by BFO and connect BFO audio out to buzzer PCB.[/quote]
From what i could unerstand about those LRL, the detecting coil shape/configuration is not important,could even be a conductive plate, results would be the same.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:26 PM
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From what i could unerstand about those LRL, the detecting coil shape/configuration is not important,could even be a conductive plate, results would be the same.
Fred.
A plate or antenna is not very precisse, but the IB type, for example, is more precisse.

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From what i could unerstand about those LRL, the detecting coil shape/configuration is not important,could even be a conductive plate, results would be the same.
Fred.
You are 100% correct about the shape/config. It's not important. But a front coil/antenna is needed. Not a conductive plate.
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I already made some time ago one BFO detector.
Can you explain where to make PCB5 conections to BFO PCB,or if needs ferrite?...

Regards
Use normally the ferrite part. See the connection here. I use Qiaozhi's schematic design

As you know, just I post this part.

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Thanks a lot for this schematic

I will try this,just for curiosity...
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