New Year, New LRL - Page 2

Geo · #26 01-11-2009, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugene52

Geo , The hundreds of turns of copper enamel wire is to give more gain for the small telescoping antenna ?? , and is it somewhere in the KHZ range , Ground waves maybe ?? Does it Transmit a signal , or does it just recieve ? Please let us know more !! And have a Great Birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!...............Regards..........Eugene 52

Hi Eugene.
Reasons are two. First as you say....... and second bacause this coil has very good directionality.
It can work with a small coil as chock but not so good sensitivity.
Also if i will use a normal smaller coil with a ferrite as radio coils then i have problems with the earth magnetic field (south-north).
It use transmit and receive.
Thanks for your wishes
Regards

Geo · #27 01-11-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi Eugene
How are you? In my opinion, Seem as big coil with big XL series with antenna,
For increase antenna XL. It is tuning at low frequency and maybe only VLF
Receiver.
Best regards

Hi Aft.
It transmit at 300Khz via a crystal oscillator.
Receive frequency is adjustable !!!!!!
The shematic is secret for the moment.... sorry

Regards

Geo · #28 01-11-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zenit52

Hi Dear Geo,
This LRL seems very interesting,
Do you test it ?!!! How it works ?
Please put schematic and for information about it...
With best regards...zenit52

Hi . I make some small tests at my garden. The weather is not good , many rain so i can't go to the farm for a big, good test.
Sorry, no schematic
Regards

Geo · #29 01-11-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Esteban

Geo

Also you can try spiral. This is very good. But make this is some difficult (consume more time).

Hi Esteban.
Thanks for the photo.
Do you use this coil inside the head of your red pistol????
Maybe my LRL has the same prinsiple with your pistol
Regards

Esteban · #30 01-11-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Esteban.
Thanks for the photo.
Do you use this coil inside the head of your red pistol????
Maybe my LRL has the same prinsiple with your pistol
Regards

No, the red pistol is inside a BFO.

This spiral I use in absorptive magnetic type. I found with it silver items, old riffle 7.62 cartridge only gove one beep, but for silver is good. Also buttons platted gold, etc.

I think is the king of coil for this use (receiver-absorptive). But I think your conic version is good for transmitter. Also I use the conic type (I post the pics months ago).

Regards

Esteban

Esteban · #31 01-11-2009, 12:58 PM

Here the conic coil I post in july 2008
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...5225#post75225

Geo · #32 01-11-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Esteban

No, the red pistol is inside a BFO.

This spiral I use in absorptive magnetic type. I found with it silver items, old riffle 7.62 cartridge only gove one beep, but for silver is good. Also buttons platted gold, etc.

I think is the king of coil for this use (receiver-absorptive). But I think your conic version is good for transmitter. Also I use the conic type (I post the pics months ago).

Regards

Esteban

For transmiter No, a big Tx coil at the place of antenna yes, but why conic????
I use it for the receiver.
I told that it is about your Red pistol !!!!!!!

Regards

ivconic · #33 01-11-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo

For transmiter No, a big Tx coil at the place of antenna yes, but why conic????
I use it for the receiver.
I told that it is about your Red pistol !!!!!!!

Regards

Yes; why conic? Why not ivconic?

Esteban · #34 01-11-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ivconic

Yes; why conic? Why not ivconic?

Why not? You are able for to design one of it...

Esteban · #35 01-11-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo

For transmiter No, a big Tx coil at the place of antenna yes, but why conic????
I use it for the receiver.
I told that it is about your Red pistol !!!!!!!

Regards

Was used for very high distance, AM type. Tr. was conic...

Regards

Esteban

Morgan · #36 01-11-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Aft.
It transmit at 300Khz via a crystal oscillator.
Receive frequency is adjustable !!!!!!
The shematic is secret for the moment.... sorry

Regards

Hi Geo

This device you made with conic coil,its not new in the market...
One friend from Spain who visit Alonso in Paraguay told me about similar LRL device,but using some LED´s,its exacly the same as yours in apearence,they call Tesla LRL,it detects only GOLD AND SILVER.
My friend from Spain become interested in device but Alonso not sell this one...Maybe Esteban also know about this device...

Regards

Geo · #37 01-12-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ivconic

Yes; why conic? Why not ivconic?

Hi Ivica.
Conic... or Ivconic ?????
Its the same.
How are you and your family ???/?
Regards

Geo · #38 01-12-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Geo

This device you made with conic coil,its not new in the market...
One friend from Spain who visit Alonso in Paraguay told me about similar LRL device,but using some LED´s,its exacly the same as yours in apearence,they call Tesla LRL,it detects only GOLD AND SILVER.
My friend from Spain become interested in device but Alonso not sell this one...Maybe Esteban also know about this device...

Regards

Hi Morgan.

The device is new!!!!! it is my design. The conic coil or Tesla coil, of course it is not new. It is very old. My LRL has better performance at non ferrous objects but also detects the rust ferrous objects. The advantage is that it is very stable even at full sensitivity.

Regards

Esteban · #39 01-12-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Geo

This device you made with conic coil,its not new in the market...
One friend from Spain who visit Alonso in Paraguay told me about similar LRL device,but using some LED´s,its exacly the same as yours in apearence,they call Tesla LRL,it detects only GOLD AND SILVER.
My friend from Spain become interested in device but Alonso not sell this one...Maybe Esteban also know about this device...

Regards

I know about it. The Tesla conic by Alonso is 32 cm long. Works at 400-500 V.

Regards

Esteban

Esteban · #40 01-12-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Morgan.

The device is new!!!!! it is my design. The conic coil or Tesla coil, of course it is not new. It is very old. My LRL has better performance at non ferrous objects but also detects the rust ferrous objects. The advantage is that it is very stable even at full sensitivity.

Regards

This is very important: stability at full sensibility.

Regards

Clondike Clad · #41 01-12-2009, 12:08 PM

Do anyone knows how a Tesla coil WORKS.i LIKE TO SEE THIS THINGGO AFTER CARL'S $25,000

Theseus · #42 01-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Yes, I know how a tesla coil works. For what it was developed to do, it works very well. Unfortunately for THers, there is no facet or concept of a tesla coil that will aid in the discovery of long range buried targets (ie. gold or buried treasure).

Carl can rest easy that his money is quite safe; at least in regards to any LRL that resembles a tesla coil.

Esteban · #43 01-12-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Theseus

Yes, I know how a tesla coil works. For what it was developed to do, it works very well. Unfortunately for THers, there is no facet or concept of a tesla coil that will aid in the discovery of long range buried targets (ie. gold or buried treasure).

Carl can rest easy that his money is quite safe; at least in regards to any LRL that resembles a tesla coil.

Not big money for the travel of 2 persons thousands miles, hotel, expenses, etc.

Theseus · #44 01-12-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Esteban

Not big money for the travel of 2 persons thousands miles, hotel, expenses, etc.

Perhaps not "big money", but certainly if someone actually had a "working" LRL (tesla based or not), it would be worth their time, money and effort to come to the US, demonstrate their LRL to James Randi, grab his $1M, and then pick up Carl's money on their way back home.

But, alas... no one has done that......

Geo · #45 01-12-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Esteban

Not big money for the travel of 2 persons thousands miles, hotel, expenses, etc.

You must pay at least the half money!!!!

Geo · #46 01-12-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Theseus

Perhaps not "big money", but certainly if someone actually had a "working" LRL (tesla based or not), it would be worth their time, money and effort to come to the US, demonstrate their LRL to James Randi, grab his $1M, and then pick up Carl's money on their way back home.

But, alas... no one has done that......

Yes, but if you will locate 9 times of ten then you lose.....

So, is Randi stupid to give you the $1M???
We say that LRL or rods are not so precision as a VLF but you don't hear....
You hear only the 100/100. If i will go with a LRL 3 times (for example) for a treasure and finally i find the treasure.... what do you say???? that i have problem

because i can't find the treasure with the first time, so i can't take the money from Carl

Please be serious....

Regards

Esteban · #47 01-12-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Theseus

Perhaps not "big money", but certainly if someone actually had a "working" LRL (tesla based or not), it would be worth their time, money and effort to come to the US, demonstrate their LRL to James Randi, grab his $1M, and then pick up Carl's money on their way back home.

But, alas... no one has done that......

I assume the $ 1 M is for "mechanic LRL", no for completely electronic... Randi's prize is for paranormal applications... as I'm noticed.

Esteban · #48 01-12-2009, 11:27 PM

Randi is not sure at all... New significative rule:

12. This offer is not open to any and all persons. Before being considered as an applicant, the person applying must satisfy two conditions: First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities. Second, he/she must produce at least one signed document from an academic who has witnessed the powers or abilities of the person, and will validate that these powers or abilities have been verified.

Theseus · #49 01-13-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Esteban

I assume the $ 1 M is for "mechanic LRL", no for completely electronic... Randi's prize is for paranormal applications... as I'm noticed.

You could be right. But before you discount the idea of trying for the $1M with your gadget, why don't you outline what it is that you intend to do with it, including the claimed accuracy, and then let the Randi organization determine if your gadget falls within the scope of their test parameters; or not.

Theseus · #50 01-13-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo

Yes, but if you will locate 9 times of ten then you lose.....

Really??? Have you already submitted a proposal for a test protocol and is that what they told you?

I was under the impression your results would merely need to be significantly better than what could be obtained by chance guessing.

Now, admittedly the words "significantly better" might mean your results would have to be many statistical points better than pure chance; but if your claimed results (with your gadget) are not within that realm, then what good is it?