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Old 01-17-2010, 01:48 PM
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The Xtal I believe is acting as a stabilizer due to its properties, for keeping the pulses steady in the induction process and to avoid drifting
You believe ... you will show up to debunker the big mouths, but you don't know how.

Dear hung, don't teach Esteban when he is trying to apply known science in his creations.

Better to imitate him, rather than you try to apply your spontaneous beliefs in your own tower of beliefs.
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Old 01-17-2010, 04:33 PM
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No Esteban, this is not a Xtal or fequency for gold. The device is a substance detector able to react to many targets, not only gold, according to the frequencies that are input.

The Xtal I believe is acting as a stabilizer due to its properties, for keeping the pulses steady in the induction process and to avoid drifting.
Altough, there is much still to be done to perfect the device, I can safely say that its concept and the functions it can perform are the most advanced in LRL history to date.
Obviously, you have not a single clue as to what a piezoelectric crystal does in a REAL electronic application.

Crystal material will generate a voltage when mechanical pressure is applied and conversely will undergo mechanical stress when subjected to a voltage.

Naturally, if you connect a Xtal into a randomly selected hodge podge of electronic components, such as the Examiner circuitry, it does not (and cannot) accomplish anything close to the function it serves in a REAL application. The Examiner neither creates mechanical pressure, nor does it apply a voltage. Thus, the Xtal just sits there and does nothing, exactly like the other randomly connected components. It looks impressive to the gullible and technically-challenged, but it serves no other purpose. Sorry.

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Old 01-17-2010, 07:24 PM
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...So direct to the point. My advices for you:

1 - Contact Art trying to make an apointment with him. He lives in your neighboorhood. See if you can have him demonstrate the device live before your very eyes.
Tell him his emails with instructions are not working for you. This either due to your lack of ability as I stated above or in the worst case simply by conscient negligence.

2 - Quit at once the mambo you are trying to conduct here for weeks in a row. Once at Art's, you can film him, conduct lots of interviews, ask all the questions you feel like you need to and who knows, maybe you can start to learn how to use the device.
And don't forget to pay the guy for his time, please...
Hi hung,
Art does not live in my neighborhood, and he cannot be contacted if his email doesn't work. But he was invited to come and try the examiner with his own hands to see what it does, and never responded. I have had an open invitation to anyone who wants to try it out to come on over and try it. It is simple as sending me a PM. So why hasn't Art responded?
For one, he already stated he has the older model that doesn't work the same as this one.
Also, he does not live in the neighborhood.
Third, I am not hiring consultants to perform tests.
I am inviting people who want an opportunity to try it for themselves in Southern California to do so by simply making an appointment for when to come try it. If Art had any interest in trying it, then I suspect he would have contacted me by now. But he hasn't.

By the way, you are also invited to come try it out if you think you are in the neighborhood.
You can bring your diodes model too and see how it compares.

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Old 01-17-2010, 09:41 PM
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Tough I cared to suggest the advices above, I know you will cheat again and discard what I suggest, simply because you actually NEVER had the intention to conduct a serious research. RT was all kindness in sending you a unit and after weeks, you still are blowing hot air, did no test it at all, and even pushed to open the device as you perfectly know.
You are suggesting cheating and claiming I know I pushed to open the device?
How can you know these facts?
These are not facts.
But I can tell you the facts if you are interested.

After I first received the Examiner I sent an email to Rangertell informing them it had arrived, and I asked several questions so I would know what parts of the Examiner are considered proprietary and cannot be shown online.
My questions were:

1. Am I correct that the calculator key codes should not be posted online?
2. Is it ok to open the examiner case and look at the insides for my own interest and not divulge what I see? Is it ok to open the examiner case and photograph the insides to post online?

I expected to receive an answer that all the calculator codes and anything inside are considered proprietary. But I was surprised when they replied it would be ok to show photos of the inside. In fact I sent another email asking if they were sure about that. Their reply was yes, with an added caution not to move the wires inside because they are sensitively positioned. They also reminded me of the deal I made, and asked me to get it working first.

These emails were just after I received the Examiner. I hadn't shown photos of the inside until a couple of recent emails when I opened the Examiner again looking for signs of wires that look moved. I told Rangertell I could post photos of the inside if they wanted. In their reply they asked to see a composite photo I would post. After they saw it they said ok to post. They explained The examiner is sent out from the factory glued closed, but they did not glue the one they sent me so I could open it without damaging it.

It seems to me I wasn't pushing.
Early on Rangertell told me they don't mind posting photos of the inside because they consider it pertinent. I understand their point of view. I posted photos now because I had it open, and becaues Rangertell said it was ok. If the facts I described above constitute your idea of "cheating and pushing", I can ask the Rangertell contact to come and post his verification that all I said is true.


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Old 01-21-2010, 01:42 PM
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Rain, rain... go away.
Come again some other day.

There is the trimmer cap to carefully adjust,
to be sure of a perfect setting, an absolute must.

The once ballyhooed testing, with show and tell,
now seem only a distant memory, and begins to smell.

Rain, rain go away.
Come again some other day,
When once again Graham can come out and play

Perchance to record a video to show,
So that in the end we can say; I told you so!

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Hi to all and hope you all a good 2010
I just dropped in to to say hi.

I am loving my old and very old XLPRO more and more.
This is my LRL of choice.
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Sorry J_P I couldn't wait any more for the test results so I just ordered my examiner a couple of days ago.
I am having a very good working LRL as I said before but I wanted something small reliable that I can always carry whith me in my car or in my backpack when I am out fishing.You know what I mean J_P.
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Sorry J_P I couldn't wait any more for the test results so I just ordered my examiner a couple of days ago.
I am having a very good working LRL as I said before but I wanted something small reliable that I can always carry whith me in my car or in my backpack when I am out fishing.You know what I mean J_P.
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Sure I know

You read what I found in my preliminary checks of the Examiner, so you already know what my results are so far.
Be sure to check back and let us know what your experience is with your Examiner.

Also be sure to pick up some fly fishing gear when you are shopping, and let us know your results with the trout
(photos are good for trout).

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Hahahahahaha
Hi G-sani.
If you understood well, J_P means that you will not find something so to post the photos here.
For this reason he says you to go for fishing!!!! because it is sure that then you will post photos here.
J_P, i don't know who are bigger liars.... fishermen or treasure hunters

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Hahahahahaha
Hi G-sani.
If you understood well, J_P means that you will not find something so to post the photos here.
For this reason he says you to go for fishing!!!! because it is sure that then you will post photos here.
J_P, i don't know who are bigger liars.... fishermen or treasure hunters

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All treasure hunters only tell the truth, and all fishremen too. This photo from steehead flyfishing is proof:
Are you in photo???
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Sorry J_P I couldn't wait any more for the test results so I just ordered my examiner a couple of days ago.
I am having a very good working LRL as I said before but I wanted something small reliable that I can always carry whith me in my car or in my backpack when I am out fishing.You know what I mean J_P.
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Fishing or shopping? Or fishing into a shopping?
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Sorry J_P I couldn't wait any more for the test results so I just ordered my examiner a couple of days ago.
I am having a very good working LRL as I said before but I wanted something small reliable that I can always carry whith me in my car or in my backpack when I am out fishing.You know what I mean J_P.
Shopping therapy at its best!
Oh... I forgot...
Here is something small reliable that you can always carry with you in your car or backpack when you are out fishing.
2 for cheap price is good therapy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRQMCRy7YwU
https://www.ronco.com/PocketFisherman/Default.aspx
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Fishing or shopping? Or fishing into a shopping?
The best catch for me now it would be a goldfish Esteban!
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Oh... I forgot...
Here is something small reliable that you can always carry with you in your car or backpack when you are out fishing.
2 for cheap price is good therapy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRQMCRy7YwU
https://www.ronco.com/PocketFisherman/Default.aspx
Thank you J_P. I never knew its existance.
I will get two pairs whith this price.
I can always have it in my bag when out trying to find goldfish.
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Hahahahahaha
Hi G-sani.
If you understood well, J_P means that you will not find something so to post the photos here.
For this reason he says you to go for fishing!!!! because it is sure that then you will post photos here.
J_P, i don't know who are bigger liars.... fishermen or treasure hunters

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This is what I am planing to do Geo.
Whenever I get no fish I can take my examiner out and the oposite.
This gives you more chances to return back home happy, one way or another.
Once there was a time I returned back home having both fishes and goldfishes in the same bag.
no, that was a fishermans lie.
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When you will receive the rangertell, tell me to come there to give it another try (At first time it did n't worked).
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When you will receive the rangertell, tell me to come there to give it another try (At first time it did n't worked).
Allright Geo, but let me take the pocketfisherman whith me just in case.
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Sorry J_P I couldn't wait any more for the test results so I just ordered my examiner a couple of days ago.
Probably just as well... it appears the "fabled" testing is on permanent hold.

When you get your R-T dowsing rod, maybe you can stop back and tell us how it works. Be sure and try it on other than stuff in plain sight. And watch that trimmer capacitor adjustment... I hear it is real "touchy".
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Sorry J_P I couldn't wait any more for the test results so I just ordered my examiner a couple of days ago.
I am having a very good working LRL as I said before but I wanted something small reliable that I can always carry whith me in my car or in my backpack when I am out fishing.You know what I mean J_P.
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Hey g-sani. You won't regret.
As you said, it's small, compact and you will have a lot of fun in the field, specially with the latest frequencies. I tested them and they are superb.
If you wish PM me and we will share experiences.
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Hey g-sani. You won't regret.
As you said, it's small, compact and you will have a lot of fun in the field, specially with the latest frequencies. I tested them and they are superb.
If you wish PM me and we will share experiences.
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I can hear RangerTell laughing all the way to the bank.
What's your commission rate?
So can I.... even across all those miles of ocean.

I'm guessing he gets probably at least 10%, maybe up to 20.
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