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04-11-2011, 03:01 PM
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I am interested to know more information of how you found this coin. Can you tell these things? 1. What metal was the coin? 2. What kind of ground? Sand, clay? Wet ground, dry ground? Grass? 3. What was the air temperature? 4. Was the humidity high or low? Thank you for your report. Best wishes, J_P 
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04-12-2011, 03:04 AM
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The Zahori is basically an electric field detector. It detects variations in the electric field in the air. If it beeped at a place where you found a coin buried, it may have been beeping because the coin caused an electric field to appear, or maybe because something else at the same location was causing the zahori to beep. Do you remember if the ground was wet or not? Were there plants or grass growing on the ground? Were there other things on the ground like fence posts, buildings, telephone poles? Was coin buried under a tesla coil? was the ground flat? Or did it have a slope or hills on it? Were there any big rocks nearby? If the humidity was high, then the air was more conductive that day, and it would take a stronger electric field to make beeps on a zahori detector. But you would also have less interference from noise in the air on a day with high humidity, so easier to find weak signals. One thing that does not make any sense to me is the brass sample in the coil. This brass does nothing that I know of electronically. Maybe you can make a second coil identical to your first coil, except do not put the brass sample. Then see if the zahori works the same with the brass as it works with no brass. If you think about it the whole coil is made from copper. This is the same as having a copper sample. So you could make a coil from aluminum wire to see if this is the same as aluminum sample, and iron wire to see if this is good for iron sample. All of this seems silly to me. But we can find out for sure if you make a second coil with no brass sample to see if there is a difference. Thank you for the report Best wishes, J_P
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04-12-2011, 05:54 AM
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Hi J_P.
I think that there is a secret with the sample, but i don't know who is it and how to explain. I saw some LRLs to have samples inside them. Some examples are the Vertex, DCH85 etc... Regards 
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04-12-2011, 09:29 AM
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Also I am good thanks. Morgan using his zahori circuit with BFO circuit . as I read messages , And If what's I said is correct . morgan didn’t use zahori lonely , in the matter better Saying more Morgan. About your treasure, as I remember you found it by your PD , you are the first person That said PD work , also there are the second person that I know his PD work    , (In the matter I saw movie  ) About your treasure , I am heard many about jinnes finding the person who is be able broke telesm !!!! is difficult .I hope success for you About reach to geotech from your location : yes I know this problem , first you can use Anti filter program second you can buy with low price VPN connection  .Best regards.
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04-12-2011, 09:36 AM
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I congratulate.   Are you know from what time it was buried or Other words , what is age of coin ?
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04-14-2011, 05:48 PM
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sorry for my delay, i am very busy at this time best regards mehdi
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04-14-2011, 05:53 PM
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the coin age is about 80 years ago ( before reza shah  )all the best mehdi
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04-16-2011, 11:13 PM
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Nice to see you here. You are absolutly right about PD performance. About the Zahori we are making experiments with diferent antenna,we are using SAMPLE,i cant say it works as LRL,but some people have built and said IT WORKSas LRL for large cash hoards. In my field test not detect the buried gold medalion,but this is so small as single coin... Regards
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04-16-2011, 11:28 PM
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I have only one question for you. What is the wire diameter you use around the BRASS SAMPLE ? Regards
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04-17-2011, 06:33 AM
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At the first, Also I didn’t believe LRL detection until when found some rusty Nails with my long range locator !!!!!!!!! ., I believe there are phenomenon and energy filed around long buried metals now .
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04-17-2011, 06:36 AM
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yes , age of coin enough for produced energy filed
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04-17-2011, 10:22 PM
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One of ZB user found one silver box with jewelry buried in old house yard (garden ? ) he said ZB start the sounds at 50 meters,he folow direction and use the ZB pointed to ground to understand where it comes the signal,and of course with metal detector he found the box only 40 cm deep,material was from the 18 century. The other one found one gold cache,more than 1 Kg of coins in a remote place like a forest,distance was 80 meters,i not remember the deep,he told only with Pulse Induction large coil he get the pinpoint of the cache. Both of them said after remove the treasures ZB not give more signals. Should i believe in this stories ???Well i need to rebuild my ZB and go to the fields Regards
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04-17-2011, 10:27 PM
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04-17-2011, 11:16 PM
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The air charge is also seen as a gradient starting at ground potential and increasing as we move upward. This would tell us that an anomaly can be seen by moving the zahori from the ground to a meter or two above the ground quickly. Or if there is a metal pipe in the ground standing vertically, we can expect to detect this pipe when making a horizontal sweep across the pipe. This is because the pipe will cause an anomaly which raises the ground potential from the ground to the top of the pipe, So we expect to see the 100 volts of air charge measured 1 meter above the ground to change to 0v when we check the charge near the pipe. But why would a zahori show a charge anomaly in the air above a buried treasure? One theory is rooted in the same atmospheric air charge which we know is powered by solar wind. We know electrons are slowly leaking from the ground into the air and finding their way upward to the ionosphere. This happens in very tiny amounts which have been measured to be an average of 6000 amps of current flow over the entire world at any one time. When we look at the surface of the earth, we see that there is only 11.76 nA leaking from any 1 sq meter of ground on average. This is not much to measure. But then we are not measuring the total current flowing. The zahori measures the charge, not the current. The second part of this theory is based on the fact that the current leaking from the earth is not uniform. We know the areas of sunlight have more activity than the dark side of the earth. And there are weather conditions that cause major changes in the current leaking and the charge seen in the air near the ground. During a storm, the air charge can change dramatically, and even become negative. It is during thunderstorms when lightning replenishes the earth's negative charge to allow further leakage of electrons in other parts of the earth that are not having storms. There are also areas of underground electric currents called telluric currents, which can be measured to be stronger in some locations than others. We find the ground is also more conductive in some areas than others. As a result, lightning tends to favor certain locations when it strikes. We see the example of the lightning rod, which could be a simple pipe placed in the ground to raise the height of the ground location. While these telluric currents and conductive ground areas are not detectable with a charge detector such as the zahori, variations in the air charge above them is. The theory is that more current will leak from the ground to the air at a location where the ground is more conductive. Let's imagine a desert with a layer of dry sand for 1 meter depth which has a small area where an iron sword was dropped, and rusted during rainstorms to leave particles of iron and rust after many years. We could expect this area of dry sand to be more conductive than the surrounding sand. And according to the theory, electrons would tend to flow more easily in this conductive area than in the surrounding areas which are a better insulator. We might expect more electrons to leak into the air above this rusty patch of ground. Maybe the amount of difference is not much, but in theory, it could be seen as maybe double or more current leaking into the air. If this is happening, then we would also expect the air charge to show a large anomaly in charge above this more conductive ground. If any of this theory is true, then I would expect the air charge anomaly to be most easily detected on days of low humidity, and in areas far away from electronic noise in the air. I would also expect to see it in places where the ground is uniform and fairly dry at the surface. In many sandy locations, we see a layer of dry sand at the surface, with damp ground below. In these conditions, the depth at which we find the damp ground can change a lot depending on where you dig. This is another way you could get false signals from a zahori charge detector. You can get beeps from a zahori when you walk to a location where the depth of the damp soil is closer or farther away from the surface. If you walk over ground where the damp soil depth is closer to the surface, then you can expect to hear some beeping. So you dig to see what you found and it is an empty hole. You could not know you found shallow dampness unless you dig a lot of holes to see you detected a higher moisture level. Maybe this is why the first Zahori article described it as a detector to find water. These are the reasons why I consider the Zahori to be a poor detector of treasures, but maybe useful for locating water if the atmospheric and ground conditions are favorable. Best wishes, J_P
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Thanks for all your explanations about ZAHORI. I also believe that all the ground above conductive metal(treasures) produce diference in air voltage,and as result the ZAHORI or ZB can locate this spot. About the ZB,if well constructed according my instructions,not produce any false signals on trees ,rocks,what can make it sounds is the power lines or any kind of electrical sources at home. The ZB is so quiet in the fields that most of people said NOT WORK,of course is boring to walk two hours in the field with NO SIGNALS,so beter make ZB very light Regards
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04-18-2011, 03:21 AM
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It is possible there are voltage charges in the air caused by buried metals. But nobody has confirmed this. If it is true, then these charges are easily confused with charges in the air from different causes than buried metals. One of the most likely other causes of charges is the conductivity of the ground and anomalies in ground moisture. This is why the Zahori may be able to detect metals, but seems more suitable for detecting water. But the ZB is a different design which has little known from testing except some strange test results which are different from different people. Maybe the ZB has a way to ignore charges caused by water, conductive ground, and other false signals that we don't understand yet. Best wishes, J_P
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How you been doing with your treasure hunting since you returned from Australia? I am glad you liked my post. If you think it helped you to find treasure, you can send me a reward, like some samples of the treasure you found. (Send PM for shipping instructions). Best wishes, J_P
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