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Old 10-21-2014, 03:01 PM
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Hi mustefa,
I do not know if the salt accelerates the phenomenon, however, the salt does not corrode the gold and perhaps not be able to accelerate the phenomenon. I do not know if sensitivity to fluorescent lamp somehow has to do with the phenomenon.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:41 PM
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this is new version pcb of franco with 4046.I hope the good work
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:51 PM
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Hi mustefa,
great work, you give a professional look to my LRL. I hope you have the same result on the field!
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:59 PM
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Hi mustefa,
great work, you give a professional look to my LRL. I hope you have the same result on the field!
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thank you very much franco.
I'm also hoping
franco ?Can I use the bc237 instead of bc183?and bc548 instead of 170?
If constructed properly by touching the antenna output happening?
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Old 10-23-2014, 04:06 PM
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thank you very much franco.
I'm also hoping
franco ?Can I use the bc237 instead of bc183?and bc548 instead of 170?
If constructed properly by touching the antenna output happening?
Yes you can dear Mustafa . Nice work and job
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:47 AM
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Hi mustefa,
I think that all transistors type BC238, BC108, BC548, BC109, BC239, BC549 and similar are OK but only type "C" (BC109C, BC548C...) because they have much more gain.
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:49 AM
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Hi mustefa,
If you touch the antenna the DC output signal goes low.
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Old 10-24-2014, 10:09 AM
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hi mustefa ubram,
very nice job.

With what program did you draw?
I have designed with professional software altium.This is software for industrial design
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Old 10-24-2014, 10:16 AM
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thank you very much dear franco
I will soon make Type 4046 with new version pcb .And tell you the result.
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:35 PM
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Very nice work mustefa. Do you have a pcb design for crystal osc type?
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:52 PM
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Very nice work mustefa. Do you have a pcb design for crystal osc type?
I sent complet pcb in last page for crystal osilator type.(sperint layout file)
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:43 AM
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hi mustafa ubram
I build version 3 (8 mghz sensor )
my result like you mustafa
I sense tv and mobile phone signal
and can't detect my buried silver
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:14 PM
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Hi franco
I found th transistor bc237c.is this transistor good for replace with bc180?
Whether work your lrls only with C suffix?
I did not use a transistor circuits before with the suffix C?
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:40 AM
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Hi mustefa,
Perhaps the LRL also works with BC ... "B" with less amplification, but I have not tried it. I think it is better not to make changes and use the "C".
If you do not find the "C" try "B" but it will be necessary to reduce the value of the emitter resistors of 1K and try 820 or 680 or 560 ohms.
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:40 PM
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hi franco
i am sorryi make your lrl 4046 again with new pcb.but I could not get a result.When I'm touching the antenna does not create any change in output.Voltage does not decrease.But when the the mobile is close to the antenna LED is illuminated.Even when I disconnect the LC circuit. Again shows the response to the the mobile.
What do you think?
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:54 PM
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The signal coming from the VCO of IC1 goes to the TR2 base and then it's amplified by TR3 and TR4, the TR4 collector goes to phase comparator of IC1 with the out of VCO. At pin 2 of IC1 there is a signal corresponding to phase difference, this signal is inverted and amplified by Ic2. Part of signal of VCO goes to ground by C10 - C11 and L1. The "phenomenon" changes the phase and the amplitude of the signal
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dear franco
Please complete this more and more clearly explain how to operate the system?
When the signal is produced by the LC circuit?
What makes the phenomenon of changes in signal?
What is the function of capacitor C10?
Whether the VCO signal enters directly into the amplifier?
What is the function of the LC circuit?
Why use two capacitors C8-C9?
If you are is possible to explain fully.
TANK YOU FRANCO
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Old 11-06-2014, 10:05 AM
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Hi Mustefa,
I want to start by saying that I do not know much about the true nature of the phenomenon and that what I say is good for my country and I have made known my LRL also because I want to know if it works in other countries.
The LRL is based primarily on a high gain amplifier stage. The signal to be amplified comes from the VCO of IC1 and is applied to the amplifier through C8 and C9. The required value is about 0.5 pF, the value is difficult to find, so I used two capacitors of 1 pF connected in series. C10 has a double function, it carries the signal coming from the antenna to the base of TR2 and it carries part of VCO signal to the ground via L1. LC filter certainly let a signal that has the same resonance frequency or a harmonic or a sub-harmonic. My LRL works only with 2 or 3 turns for L1 and 22 pF, but it's possible that other turns work fine in other country.

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Old 11-06-2014, 05:25 PM
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Hi Mustefa,
LC filter certainly let a signal that has the same resonance frequency or a harmonic or a sub-harmonic.
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thank you very much dear franco
Please explain this more if it is possible for you.?
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:05 AM
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Hi mustefa,
Unfortunately I can not say more, but the important thing for me is that the LRL works well.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:27 AM
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we need to try and more experience to found information about phenomenon
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Old 11-14-2014, 07:16 AM
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hi
i made 4046 complet. I've tested with various rounds coil of 2 -10 rounds.
But it does not work:fro wn:When i touch the antenna voltage will decrease
But the real purposenot operating.I do not know nothing
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Old 11-15-2014, 01:05 PM
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Hi friends
I put here this scheme for use with all LRL to see the decrease of DC en ?millivolts
this scheme is for 0 to 5V. if you need other band need change the value of R1 and R2




And I have others Model I put here when I have times
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Old 11-15-2014, 01:52 PM
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Hi mustefa,
Sorry but I cannot help, if you touch the antenna and output decreases the lrl is ok, perhaps your test field is not good.
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:22 PM
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dear franco
In field experiments need minerals underground phenomenon to be
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Old 11-23-2014, 03:24 PM
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