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Old 02-19-2021, 06:15 AM
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Old 02-21-2021, 12:41 AM
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Good night to all friends! Inside the detector head there is a coil equal to the DCH, with no surprises of finding something different. The Infrared model used is the L14G2 TO-18 DIP3 Silicon phototransistor. I already had the FG-80, FG-90 and all of them the infrared scheme only brought me false signals, because when pointing in the direction where there was sun and then towards a shade of a tree, the infrared already gave a sign, this change of infrared visual frequency caused him to trigger the detector. I was able to resolve and eliminate these false signals by placing a piece of electrical tape over the infrared. These infrared do not have a filtering system, and any change in the visual spectrum it triggers, to be efficient, it would have to have a filtering system for about 700 to 740 nanometers, this visual frequency would be within what we want to use in our detectors.
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:43 AM
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FG80 and FG90 don't receive IR signals. They only transmit an IR signal by a Led.
Are you sure that the prototype yellow PD had the L14G2 as IR sensor and not the FPT100???
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:03 AM
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I haven't the same problem and tried to do some stuff..I needed base LED direction ,and not outside from the box . I Place it inside to the box with a distance 1cm from one small hole .Even the distance from the small hole into the box was critical..
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:26 PM
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Geo fg90 has two infrared led one of them is front of the the box and another is inside ionic chamber
Gaucho 1961 the cover of the ionic chamber operate as the infrared filter
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:51 PM
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The basic is that FG90 don't receive IR signals.
I have see FG80 with one or two or nobody ir led.
Results .... the same!!!
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Old 02-21-2021, 11:14 PM
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Alonso maybe use two type IR Sensor with different '' nm ''

L14G2 като IR сензор, а не FPT100 : шокиран:
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Old 02-22-2021, 05:39 AM
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Maybe... only he knows.
I have open many lrls constructed by him and i found the FTP and photoresistors, this is the reason that i say it.
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Old 02-22-2021, 06:07 AM
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Good evening everyone!



The infrared he uses on the yellow pistol is a 3-pin model mentioned in another post. I have a friend who has another model that Alonso manufactures in Paraguay. It's a handmade detector, but it works, because he went out to test the detector and the detector located an old rusty bucket buried some 25 meters away in the middle of some trees and vegetation. He paid $ 2,200 for the detector, but wants to sell for the same amount he paid, the detector is here with me, works with two 9v batteries in series. The system is very interesting, there are 5 PCBs, it is two detectors in one, and through a selector switch it is changed to one or the other detector, for long distance and short distance, and one of the detection plates is made by it , and another one is made by Mineoro, but it was crossed out to try to erase the name and model of this PCB. According to my friend who bought directly with Alonso, he said that this detector is the same as the FG-90, although I didn't see much similarity because it is all analog and does not have ATMEGA in the circuit. In this model, Alonso did not use any IR system, it is only a detection system and nothing else.
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FG90 has the same receiver with Fg80.
Nobody of them uses an ATMEGA.
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Old 02-22-2021, 11:29 PM
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Goodnight,

I already had the FG-80 and FG-90 but I never opened any to see the circuit, a friend who opened said he had an Atmega on the circuit. I was never interested in opening one and examining it ... not to lose my guarantee of the calibration that Alonso did when he was still giving such assistance. After Alonso broke off relations with Mineoro, and no longer provides assistance with upgrades and repairs, I lost interest in Mineoro detectors. Now Alonso no longer comes to Brazil every month, and receives his commercial participation from sales there in Paraguay, and there in a small room, he builds his detectors to order.
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Old 02-23-2021, 03:50 PM
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Your friend opened a PDC210 model.
As some guys informed me Alonso has stop to construst new lrl. From the other side i think he is old now (near to 80)...
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Old 02-23-2021, 04:09 PM
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Your friend opened a PDC210 model.
As some guys informed me Alonso has stop to construst new lrl. From the other side i think he is old now (near to 80)...
Alonso is alive, I thought he had passed away
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Old 02-23-2021, 06:39 PM
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No... he is fine!!!
Maybe you are confused with Mr Damasio.
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:44 PM
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No... he is fine!!!
Maybe you are confused with Mr Damasio.
If he were at Mineoro, things would be better with directionals that are no longer useful
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:55 PM
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'' out to test the detector and the detector located an old rusty bucket buried some 25 meters away in the middle of some trees and vegetation. ''

Alonso did not use any IR system, it is only a detection system and nothing else.

It seems that this PD also detect rusty IRON ?
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Old 02-24-2021, 04:54 AM
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Most LRLs locate the rusty steel!!. It is different than the iron.
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If he were at Mineoro, things would be better with directionals that are no longer useful
Mineoro needs a new planning.
Alonso never had the first word, Damasio was he!!.
If i remember right.... Esteban had say that Alonso had a small percentage in the company.
Now the first word has the son of Damasio... so nothing has change.
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:58 PM
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Mineoro needs a new planning.
Alonso never had the first word, Damasio was he!!.
If i remember right.... Esteban had say that Alonso had a small percentage in the company.
Now the first word has the son of Damasio... so nothing has change.
I had a conversation with someone inside, that person told me the lack of concern, with the devices, directional. And only worrying about Porta Giratoria detectors
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:06 PM
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Most LRLs locate the rusty steel!!. It is different than the iron.
Ok , so far I haven't come across it , but it could . : о:
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Old 02-25-2021, 06:29 AM
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I had a conversation with someone inside, that person told me the lack of concern, with the devices, directional. And only worrying about Porta Giratoria detectors
What is this???
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Old 02-25-2021, 09:22 AM
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What is this???
Bank door detector
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:03 PM
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Yes.... the money are much more..
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:40 PM
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Yes , You is right Dear Friend .
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