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Old 05-30-2009, 11:02 PM
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If I had posted a video showing some remarkable (some would say impossible) results, and someone else questioned the genuineness of that video, I would be prompted to reply. Most likely I would also address the objections by creating a second video without the problems noted in the first one.
However, your silence Hung is very illuminating.


Yes - and the second video should be conducted in the manner shown above - in bold.
What's that? ... Did I hear a reply?

No!! ... My mistake. It was just the sound of a pin dropping.
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Old 05-30-2009, 11:49 PM
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What's that? ... Did I hear a reply?

No!! ... My mistake. It was just the sound of a pin dropping.
yes, there are some questions that bring a deafening silence. No intempestive beeping here
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:08 AM
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However, your silence Hung is very illuminating.

Yes - and the second video should be conducted in the manner shown above - in bold. What's that? ... Did I hear a reply?

No!! ... My mistake. It was just the sound of a pin dropping.
What?
hung can't answer questions about why his LRL was able to detect gold inside his home full of interfering metal and AC power, after all the talk about how it must be tested outside away from electrical power and other metals?

Hmmmm...
I wonder how it got a good signal from gold with all the interfering metal and power inside?
This isn't another one of hung's stunts where he didn't really test it at all, is it? Do you suppose he had an assistant hiding out of view of the camera making the beep sounds to prove he has a working LRL?

I wonder why he won't test it outside away from interference?

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Old 05-31-2009, 09:13 AM
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What?
hung can't answer questions about why his LRL was able to detect gold inside his home full of interfering metal and AC power, after all the talk about how it must be tested outside away from electrical power and other metals?

Hmmmm...
I wonder how it got a good signal from gold with all the interfering metal and power inside?
This isn't another one of hung's stunts where he didn't really test it at all, is it? Do you suppose he had an assistant hiding out of view of the camera making the beep sounds to prove he has a working LRL?

I wonder why he won't test it outside away from interference?

Best wishes,
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This reminds me of another video I watched recently called "Fools Gold" (an action-comedy hybrid) and rather an apt title in this case, you might say. In the film they are using a PI for some underwater searches. The beeping of the detector was clearly dubbed on afterwards, and the detection distance for the cannon was just unbelievable.

In the video we are discussing here, I suspect that the beeping would have occurred in the first test, if it had been lowered to the same position as it was in the second test. In other words, it probably was not dubbed on afterwards or produced by an external beeper.
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Finally i went to the house from a friend and made another test. He has 2 silver coins in the ground at 30...40 cm, 18 years ago. With pcb5 and ferrite i did not took any signal. With round coil (this time with 11cm coil) i took signal but random. When i was 1... 2m near the coins i had some random beeps so it was impossible to pinpoint them. I don't know what happening other day and time, but these time my detector was not useful because with a metal detector i should made the same and better work.

But exists the phenomenon. Who phenomenon......
I don't know
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:18 PM
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Thanks Geo for your results, you are one of the very few reporting objective observations.
Keep posting the truth, wish you success.
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Finally i went to the house from a friend and made another test. He has 2 silver coins in the ground at 30...40 cm, 18 years ago. With pcb5 and ferrite i did not took any signal. With round coil (this time with 11cm coil) i took signal but random. When i was 1... 2m near the coins i had some random beeps so it was impossible to pinpoint them. I don't know what happening other day and time, but these time my detector was not useful because with a metal detector i should made the same and better work.

But exists the phenomenon. Who phenomenon......
I don't know
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Thanks Geo for your results, you are one of the very few reporting objective observations.
Keep posting the truth, wish you success.
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Exactly!

If you think the PHENOMENON is real, then try to quantify it. Subjective measurement and wild theories are of no interest. If the readings appear random, then they probably are.

Keep up the good work Geo.
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Thanks Geo for your results, you are one of the very few reporting objective observations.
Keep posting the truth, wish you success.
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Geo, I agree, keep the truth!
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is there any shematic diagram ?
and also, about TRANSISTOR SC109 is there any other corresponding (proposed) transistor ?
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:59 PM
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is there any shematic diagram ?
and also, about TRANSISTOR SC109 is there any other corresponding (proposed) transistor ?
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?

Another LRL fanatic ?

You have pcb... reverse schematic!

And transistor SC109 is maybe BC109 ... old thing... can use anything instead of it... like BC239.

And then ?

Does it let you find a coin at 10meters ? You're optimist.

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If i remember OK, the reversed schematic has wrongs at the first oscillator. It takes the out from base, not from colector
I think that Fred reversed the PCB.
To Epitopios...Πανο εαν δεν το βρεις θυμησε μου να στο στειλω, αν και εχει λαθη... διορθωνονται ευκολα

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Another LRL fanatic ?

You have pcb... reverse schematic!

And transistor SC109 is maybe BC109 ... old thing... can use anything instead of it... like BC239.

And then ?

Does it let you find a coin at 10meters ? You're optimist.

Kind regards,
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dear Max , let me find something in 10 meters and then i will put another zero , ha ha
always must optimist and dreamer in our lifes , thats why we live in the earth !!!
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If i remember OK, the reversed schematic has wrongs at the first oscillator. It takes the out from base, not from colector
I think that Fred reversed the PCB.
To Epitopios...Πανο εαν δεν το βρεις θυμησε μου να στο στειλω, αν και εχει λαθη... διορθωνονται ευκολα

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Geo , if we have a PLL Transmitter (10hz - 3Mhz) i think its a better solution and of course more stable !!!!!
I need opinions ........




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Geo , if we have a PLL Transmitter (10hz - 3Mhz) i think its a better solution and of course more stable !!!!!
I need opinions ........

Something that can suit your needs:

http://www.analog.com/static/importe...ets/AD5930.pdf

Or even NE566

Amazingly, the NE566 can be made to sweep a continuous 1000:1 frequency span with just one fixed timing capacitor. Imagine, continuous linear tuning 20 Hz - 20 KHz or 1 KHz - 1 MHz without switching. A simple op-amp circuit provides the precise voltage control necessary. You set the range with the selection of the timing capacitor.
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Something that can suit your needs:

http://www.analog.com/static/importe...ets/AD5930.pdf

Or even NE566

Amazingly, the NE566 can be made to sweep a continuous 1000:1 frequency span with just one fixed timing capacitor. Imagine, continuous linear tuning 20 Hz - 20 KHz or 1 KHz - 1 MHz without switching. A simple op-amp circuit provides the precise voltage control necessary. You set the range with the selection of the timing capacitor.
What circuit allows 1000:1 sweep without changing components?

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AD9850, AD9851.......
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very good - веома добар
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Some circuit with NE566, like this:
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Put this def file in same folder with executable. It presents setup i would like to achieve electronically - to make project which will do the same...
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Now... using this soft we can make TX coil with resistance no less than 4 ohms and use it in experimental purposes as TX at some md project.
TX coil directly connected to one of sound card outputs.
Ain't that some idea?
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150khz-3Mhz = 100mW
137khz = 50mW
100khz = 30mW
50khz = 10mW
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Geo , if we have a PLL Transmitter (10hz - 3Mhz) i think its a better solution and of course more stable !!!!!
I need opinions ........
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150khz-3Mhz = 100mW
137khz = 50mW
100khz = 30mW
50khz = 10mW
Do you think its enough power or we need more , about 10 , 20 or 50 watts??
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1W on 150kHz is H U G E power!
I don't see a need for such power?
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