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Old 12-01-2012, 05:40 PM
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All the information is there, and nothing is hidden. There is no secret ingredient that has been left out. Everyone with a little electronics knowledge can build this design and get it working. It doesn't have a swinging handle, so it's not based on dowsing.

Just follow the beeps.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:53 PM
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But i go to build one more PDK, i have order from the midle world,guess who is asking me to build one PDK ?


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Hi Sneshko, can you put the PDK in the hands of this one ?
Dear Morgan!
O.K.
For a couple of days.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:05 PM
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I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results?
Dear Qiaozhi!
I began to establish my TOTeM PD, but, because of other commitments I will not finish it before the New year.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:17 PM
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It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Dear J_Playeer!
When TОТeМ become world known as PDK 2.1 - and he'll get your bikini hostess!

Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Same as me hostesses!
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon?
I think it's on this site:
http://www.mineoro.com.br/detector_de_ouro.html
Click on the left: Duas Caixas, and to: MP10, and finally, click on: "Veja em Detectores Eletrônicos", opens a new page: "Os Detectores Elêtronicos de Metais".
On that page is (in Portuguese), explained in detail "PHENOMENON"


In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.

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Best Wishes & Regards!
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:14 PM
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Dear Qiaozhi!
I began to establish my TOTeM PD, but, because of other commitments I will not finish it before the New year.
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Hi Sneshko,

OK
and you may still be the first to get a working TOTeM.

I give the people a fishing rod, and they refuse to fish.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:29 PM
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Hi Sneshko,

OK
and you may still be the first to get a working TOTeM.

I give the people a fishing rod, and they refuse to fish.
Dear Qiaozhi!
So ... I'm not sure. Our Geo and his Greeks are working on TOTeM PD.
See the link: http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8232
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:46 PM
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Hi Sneshko,

OK
and you may still be the first to get a working TOTeM.

I give the people a fishing rod, and they refuse to fish.
Maybe they know this fishing rod only catches old and stinking boots.

Sorry Ozzy couldn't resist.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:53 PM
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Dear Qiaozhi!
So ... I'm not sure. Our Geo and his Greeks are working on TOTeM PD.
See the link: http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8232
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Can you understand what they write in the Greek forum? The translator gives a lot of gobbledygook English. As far as I can see, one of the members thinks TOTeM is a clone of the Gold Gun, but no-one has successfully built anything yet, and someone else is talking about an Elektor design, which I guess is the Zahori.

TOTeM is not related to either the Gold Gun or the Zahori. It is based on public domain knowledge of the Alonso PDK, but is not a clone. There are some completely new ideas in the design.

Everything is disclosed, and nothing is hidden. Anyone buying the book should be able to replicate the design without problems.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:11 PM
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Can you understand what they write in the Greek forum? The translator gives a lot of gobbledygook English. As far as I can see, one of the members thinks TOTeM is a clone of the Gold Gun, but no-one has successfully built anything yet, and someone else is talking about an Elektor design, which I guess is the Zahori.

TOTeM is not related to either the Gold Gun or the Zahori. It is based on public domain knowledge of the Alonso PDK, but is not a clone. There are some completely new ideas in the design.

Everything is disclosed, and nothing is hidden. Anyone buying the book should be able to replicate the design without problems.
Some members of the Greek forum have ideas about how to modify the TOTeM PD.
For that purpose the individual parts assembly Zahori and Gold Gun.
Anything they can think of.
They have fun.
I think best Geo explain what have so far managed to do.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:14 PM
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Perhaps you are correct ... BUT, I am not making any claims for TOTeM, except that it is an experimental platform to allow people to investigate the technology behind the PDK-type designs. It's up to each individual to decide whether these devices can be used to recover gold or not.

Quoting the Conclusion section for Chapter 14:

Unlike the original PD, the TOTeM project is easily replicated with a little care
and attention. It easily passes all the laboratory-based tests used by LRL experiment-
ers, and certainly appears to react in the same way as the device shown in the internet
videos. Whether it will lead you to treasure or not is maybe another story, but at least
you will have the opportunity to explore the pseudo-scientific world of long range
locators for yourself, and make up your own mind on the matter.
TMI.... Proper way to advertise LRL: Keep it simple and don't make any promises!
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:23 AM
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Some members of the Greek forum have ideas about how to modify the TOTeM PD.
For that purpose the individual parts assembly Zahori and Gold Gun.
Anything they can think of.
They have fun.
I think best Geo explain what have so far managed to do.
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I don't understand why they're trying to modify it without building it first.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:27 AM
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I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results?
At Greece some members of a Greek forum begun to make it.
But the weather conditions are not so good for locating the phenomenon. But who knows????

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Old 12-02-2012, 07:31 AM
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It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon?

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.


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For you the only real is the Cryfton

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Old 12-02-2012, 07:41 AM
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I don't understand why they're trying to modify it without building it first.

No, they don't try to modify it but to add a simple PLL detector down of it. Why.... i don't know . Also i am not sure if every detector will not gives false signals to the other. Very simple i am waiting to see

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:37 AM
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At Greece some members of a Greek forum begun to make it.
But the weather conditions are not so good for locating the phenomenon. But who knows????

OK - thanks.
I'm just waiting to see if anyone gets positive results.
Due to the rubbish nature of the translator, please keep us updated on what's happening at the Greek forum.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:25 PM
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I think we all understand that pdk works under some conditions, so this is why i dont agree to keep it secretly, because each country has their own weather conditions and are located on different poles, so if pdk just work for Portugal and some other countries, its fine, but we cant pretend to make it work on a land where the constructor don’t know anything about his weather and pole conditions. Mau be pdk can just be made to work on some lands, but not to sale overseas.
If metal detecting hobbyist pretend support the LRL comunity, information must be release to experiment and to know about the pheomenum around the world.


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Hi WM6.
I agree with you that you must make the test with good conditions. I believe that Morgan has not problem to help you about it. Speak with him......
PDK has it own condition so you must do the test under these conditions. I will be glad if you will go to Portugal for test. It is time for all of us to understand what is the phenomenon.

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Old 12-03-2012, 03:51 PM
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Hello

since i´m not building more PDK-2.1 ,but i still have many orders of people from Greece asking me the PDK-2.1, i post here the forum names of some friends who (maybe) can sell the PDK´s they have,i mean this who are not very sucessfull in findings.
This who interested can contact them and ask if they want to sell.

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Sood
Goran´s friend(Sneshko ? )

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:47 PM
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Hi Dear Morgan!
I bought PDK 2.1 from "goranspeed"!
PDK 2.1 is for me a very interesting machine.
I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOUR COPY PDK 2.1!
Today is the first snow of Serbia.
I will detail my PDK 2.1 test in spring.
Then I'll know all the possibilities (or inability) PDK 2.1.
Greetings to all members of тhe LRL forum Snowman from Serbia!!!
Sneshko (Снешко) in Serbian = Snowman
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:35 PM
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Hello Morgan.
At the moment I am not interested in selling the PDK. Still much to explore and understand the secrets of the appearance of NS lines that appear and disappear mysteriously. Last weekend, figured out how to customize the appearance of PDK NS lines.
We also now in Ukraine, the first snow fell. All searches are transferred to PDK in the spring.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:09 PM
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Hi Dear Morgan!
I bought PDK 2.1 from "goranspeed"!
PDK 2.1 is for me a very interesting machine.
I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOUR COPY PDK 2.1!
Today is the first snow of Serbia.
I will detail my PDK 2.1 test in spring.
Then I'll know all the possibilities (or inability) PDK 2.1.
Greetings to all members of тhe LRL forum Snowman from Serbia!!!
Sneshko (Снешко) in Serbian = Snowman
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OK,i will send you the INSTRUCTIONS today.

Anyway it will be interesting to test the PDK in snow.

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Old 12-03-2012, 11:12 PM
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Hello Morgan.
At the moment I am not interested in selling the PDK. Still much to explore and understand the secrets of the appearance of NS lines that appear and disappear mysteriously. Last weekend, figured out how to customize the appearance of PDK NS lines.
We also now in Ukraine, the first snow fell. All searches are transferred to PDK in the spring.
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Hi Sood

The appearance of this North -South lines during part of the day ,are realy misterious.
I never experience this behavior during my field tests...

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Old 12-03-2012, 11:23 PM
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Hi Dear Morgan!
I bought PDK 2.1 from "goranspeed"!
PDK 2.1 is for me a very interesting machine.
I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOUR COPY PDK 2.1!
Today is the first snow of Serbia.
I will detail my PDK 2.1 test in spring.
Then I'll know all the possibilities (or inability) PDK 2.1.
Greetings to all members of тhe LRL forum Snowman from Serbia!!!
Sneshko (Снешко) in Serbian = Snowman
Regards!
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During your field tests with the PDK in Serbia,you experience the North - South lines ?
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:19 AM
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The appearance of this North -South lines during part of the day ,are realy misterious.
I never experience this behavior during my field tests...

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In Ukraine, there are lines like the North-South because of the West - the East, these signals are very strong, they mysteriously poyavlyayutsya and disappear. When the lines of the North - South PDK search should be conducted only in the direction North - South, in the other direction is not sensitive PDK ceases.

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[QUOTE=Sood;144613]In Ukraine, there are lines like the North-South because of the West - the East, these signals are very strong, they mysteriously poyavlyayutsya and disappear. When the lines of the North - South PDK search should be conducted only in the direction North - South, in the other direction is not sensitive PDK ceases.

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This is another reason to believe the PHENOMENON is diferent in intensity according the country we are searching with PDK.

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One day all the mistery around working LRL´s and the PHENOMENON will be cientificaly proved...
Hi Morgan,
I am beginning to wonder what you are talking about.
Science has already explained the reasons why the electronic circuits can cause beeps in your locator.
Let us review. Here are a series of posts that began with WM6 discussing the "PHENOMENON":

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My dear dreamers, you are so excited and happy with "phenomenon", which is to some others horror fear:

Originally Posted by J_Player
I also have a question:Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field?
I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is.
The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place.

We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance...
Magnetic field anomaly?
I don't think so.


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yes,is magnetic anomaly,is very interesting when for example two silver coins are buried 3 meters from each other,the signal in PDK is confused and looks like a big area,this very dificult to pinpoint,much better when object is isolated,as you see in this videos.

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Hi Morgan,
I do not believe two buried silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other will create a magnetic anomaly.
I can think of some anomalies that silver coins can create which could be detectable, but not magnetic anomalies.

How did you conclude you found a magnetic anomaly when there are two silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other?
Did you check with a magnetometer to see that these coins are creating a magnetic anomaly?
Or did you just guess that silver coins make a magnetic anomaly because your locator becomes confused?

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MAGNETIC, DIAMAGNETIC and PARAMAGNETIC, not completely study,cientists need to learn much more...

Two years ago i was telling here about the PHENOMENON was located most of the times West to East and North to South,other times it as variations,but very rare to locate targets S to N. This hapens even with PDK-3 that still work without need of VHF waves.
Only recently i heard that Franco Italy(electrician Engeneer forum member) build one working LRL,and what he found? EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ,same experiences i have years ago when test the PDK-2. Recently he declare to have build one working LRL,I´m not alone

From what I can see, you have no clue what you are detecting, and this is the reason why you are calling it a magnetic anomaly.
In case you didn't know this, scientists have studied more about magnetic, diamagnetic and paramagnetic properties of substances than you know.
And they can prove what they know about these subjects because they have instruments which work every time to show precise variations in a magnetic field.
They don't use a VLF transmitter or receiver to measure magnetic amomalies of objects that are in the ground.
They use magnetometers and gradiometers to locate magnetic anomalies in the ground.

I believe scientists know a lot more than you know about which kinds of phenomena can exist around buried metals.
If one of these scientist, such as a geophysicist saw how you determined two buried silver coins can create a magnetic anomaly, he would laugh at you.
He knows very well buried silver coins do not create a magnetic anomaly.
Before he gave you a lecture on the properties of magnetism, he would show you with his magnetometer that there is no magnetic anomaly caused by the buried coins.
Then he may explain some real science reasons why your locator might have directional properties.

However, you can continue to propagate pseudoscience to tell people this thing which you don't understand is a magnetic anomaly.
But it won't work to convince educated people.
It is easy for anyone to verify that there is no magnetic anomaly where there is buried gold or silver coins with their pocket compass.
Any intelligent person would conclude the locator prefers to search in certain directions.
They would not conclude they found a magnetic anomaly and scientists need to learn more about magnetism.

Have you ever considered that you built a locator which has magnetic sensitivity?
Did you know there are changes in the strength of the earth's magnetic field in various locations on the earth which happen suddenly every day?
Or did you consider your locator may have sensitivity to flowing electric currents?
Did you know there is a cycle of natural underground currents which run in specific compass directions at certain times of the day, then can reduce, or stop at other times of the day?
And these currents run different directions when you check them at different locations?
Did you ever consider your locator is responding to changes in these currents that travel under the ground?
Or maybe it is responding to other natural fluctuations that can be measured from the surface of the earth such as solar driven cycles?
Radio engineers know all about how atmospheric conditions change the way their transmitters and receivers work.
Maybe these natural and man made fluctuations are influencing chemical actions in the ground.
Have you considered that lunar cycles cause the ground water to move, and this can change the way VLF waves are absorbed in the ground from a hand-held transmitter?
Have you ever considered any of these things?
Of course not! You are too busy trying to convince yourself there is a magnetic anomaly caused by buried silver coins!
There are hundreds of other natural phenomenon such as these which scientists know of besides the ones I talked about.
Yet I see no evidence you have a clue that these natural earth fluctuations exist.
But one thing I know for certain is you will not find a magnetic anomaly caused by two buried silver coins, or gold coins either.
This makes me think you do not have a clue what this "phenomenon" is, and you call it by the name "phenomenon" because you don't know what kind of electronic signals your locator is detecting.

Now you want us to believe the "PHENOMENON" is real.
Well I don't believe it, and I don't think others are stupid enough to believe it either.
What you are calling "PHENOMENON" is another word for "IGNORANCE".
When you use the word "PHENOMENON" you are really saying you can't figure out what kind of electronic signals your locator detects or fails to detect, so you will call it "PHENOMENON".
After all, the "PHENOMENON" trick worked for Mineoro, when they said the phenomenon caused gold ions to rise 7 feet into the air, where they detected them, right?
Well they did not convince me. And neither does your "magnetic anomaly" ignorance convince me.

If there is a magnetic anomaly, then we would be able to watch our compass move when we walk over this supposed magnetic anomaly that you say is caused by buried silver coins.
Or if we wanted to be more accurate, we could check it with a magnetometer or gradiometer.
I don't believe we will find a magnetic anomaly caused by the two silver coins.

I think your "magnetic anomaly phenomenon" does NOT exist.
Any directional response from your locator is caused by changes in natural earth currents or changes in the earth's magnetic field, or other natural earth cycles, not by buried coins. Maybe the directional properties are even caused by man-made electrical or magnetic events of some sort. But we will never know because your keep your circuits secret, and even you don't know what kind of signals they detect.
And now, you wait for science to explain what your detector detects.
Hahahaa.. that's a joke.

What scientist would try to guess what you have hidden inside your locators, or what signals it is responsive to?
The first thing they would ask is to open it up so they could test the circuit to see what it is detecting.
Then you would say you won't do it because it's a secret. He happy to know it detects the "PHENOMENON".
Then they would walk away laughing.

But I have a challenge for you: I will agree you found a magnetic anomaly if you prove it by showing us your compass become confused, or a magnetometer reading change to demonstrate that you found a magnetic anomaly when you move it over the location of your buried gold and silver targets.

The only thing I believe is I saw locators beep when they were pointed toward known buried metal locations, and they have directional properties that you don't understand.
All this "PHENOMENON" BS is simply fake pseudoscience propaganda you borrowed from Mineoro.
I believe that all the beeping you hear on your locators is caused by known principles of real science, and real electronics...
not by fake "phenomenon" BS claiming floating gold ions or magnetic anomalies where there is a buried gold or silver coin.

I think you don't know what electronic signals your detectors are detecting, so you call it "PHENOMENON".
And for this reason, you cannot understand why your locators stopped working.
The best you can guess is they stopped working because TV transmitters changed their frequency.

Maybe builders of the TOTeM understand a little more about the reality of electronics and geophysics.
At least they have a good set of instructions, and some world-class electronic engineers to ask for help.

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