One more to prove the concept

[Steve in MS]

Hey Hung, show us what you have found with your Ranger.
How long have you been using it?

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by J_Player

I was reading the forum, anxiously waiting for Clondike Clad to get his replacement RangerTell Examiner and test it, when I read this:
Now, I can understand someone gets mad and throws some junk in the trash, but after talking about how he will post his findings?
Clondike Clad has instantly changed from an indignant victim of an LRL scam to a person who is taking measures to hide what he found inside the Ranger Tell.

My BS alarms went of loud and clear when I read his posts, sounding reminiscent of hung making excuses why he cannot show the insides of a Ranger tell.
The question comes to mind,,, What did he see inside the Ranger Tell that changed his mind about posting for all to see?

Could it be there are small leprachauns inside the Ranger Tell who place a curse on the person who opens the enclosure, and forces the victim to do their bidding?
Is this what causes all those LRL proponent to refuse to photograph the insides of their LRL or test them in public?
Did a small leprechaun give Clondike Clad a death threat in the event that he showed any photos of the inside of the Ranger Tell?

Best wishes,
J_P

I was going to post but it was not RT that stopped me.
It was to keep the wife happy( she also told me I don't want anyone messing with us.)
She told me to stop it on the forums, before someone come a calling.
So I told her I will STOP.
But I will say Is I hope others will post the inside of the RT unit.
So I wil just go back to lurking for a bit.

[Fred]

Hi Clondike,
Who was messing with you ?

[Rangertell]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Hung, it turns out that Mr. Blanes registered as "Rangertell" using a fictitious email account, which is why he could not do an email validation. Then, in an attempt to pretend to be other people, he proceeded to create numerous other accounts, which messed up his login cookies. So everything that happened was his own fault.

And you trust this guy? Really?

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If it was fictitious then how could anyone have activated the registration? Yet there it was. It can't have been fictitious. At least not from RT.

BTW it appears that one computer is often shared between folks, especially at club functions and parties etc. This is what has obviously occurred recently, leading to a number of 'floater' posts from copycats. Since it was the anniversary party of one such club I have determined that this is the root of the problem. A pc was borrowed and returned mysteriously last night requiring a little housekeeping. As well, since my IP too was banned as were others, there appears to have been a problem with the forum mechanics, particularly yesterday.

I also noted that an Al Carson attended the club do, and his email is acarson@aol.com, a fictitious one since all messages bounce from it. Al is a funny proposition, often imitating various people (particularly a Vincent) to suit his own loopy ends. I have been told he was there. Maybe he was just emailing again. He means well and should be ignored or he will get worse. You get outrider types at these functions. If I tell him not to turn up he will bombard me with emails of a semi-humorous kind.

Need it be said that RTL&ES is the most honest of concerns , without being too self-promoting, and there's usually a simple explanation for anything unusual. It is generally the backlash from the havoc that Al has wreaked among skeptics who have not liked the treatment.

Anyway, if an apology is due you have it. I don't know what has transpired since I posted the initial offer to help Clondike Clad. That's all I wrote.

Thank you

RTL&ES

-HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL. IT'S NOT BAD TO BE ALONE.-

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"I think I spie a wee leprechaun standing there so you can appraise the matter to be sure, to be sure.. His name be Carl and he sells a lord of printers and many types of accusatory and negatory knick knacks. Begorrah, be Carl and he's pulling the leg it be. I've never bin so insulted in mi loif. I'm never goin to go there agen."

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

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If it was fictitious then how could anyone have activated the registration? Yet there it was. It can't have been fictitious. At least not from RT.

BTW it appears that one computer is often shared between folks, especially at club functions and parties etc. This is what has obviously occurred recently, leading to a number of 'floater' posts from copycats. Since it was the anniversary party of one such club I have determined that this is the root of the problem. A pc was borrowed and returned mysteriously last night requiring a little housekeeping. As well, since my IP too was banned as were others, there appears to have been a problem with the forum mechanics, particularly yesterday.

I also noted that an Al Carson attended the club do, and his email is acarson@aol.com, a fictitious one since all messages bounce from it. Al is a funny proposition, often imitating various people (particularly a Vincent) to suit his own loopy ends. I have been told he was there. Maybe he was just emailing again. He means well and should be ignored or he will get worse. You get outrider types at these functions. If I tell him not to turn up he will bombard me with emails of a semi-humorous kind.

Need it be said that RTL&ES is the most honest of concerns , without being too self-promoting, and there's usually a simple explanation for anything unusual. It is generally the backlash from the havoc that Al has wreaked among skeptics who have not liked the treatment.

Anyway, if an apology is due you have it. I don't know what has transpired since I posted the initial offer to help Clondike Clad. That's all I wrote.

Thank you

RTL&ES

-HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL. IT'S NOT BAD TO BE ALONE.-

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"I think I spie a wee leprechaun standing there so you can appraise the matter to be sure, to be sure.. His name be Carl and he sells a lord of printers and many types of accusatory and negatory knick knacks. Begorrah, be Carl and he's pulling the leg it be. I've never bin so insulted in mi loif. I'm never goin to go there agen."

What total nonsense!
A 5 year old child could manufacture a better lie than that.

Let's see you tap dance your way out of this.
Here's a snapshot of your Public Profile that's available for everyone to see:
Hmmm ... could be a tricky one ...

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

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If it was fictitious then how could anyone have activated the registration? Yet there it was. It can't have been fictitious. At least not from RT.

BTW it appears that one computer is often shared between folks, especially at club functions and parties etc. This is what has obviously occurred recently, leading to a number of 'floater' posts from copycats. Since it was the anniversary party of one such club I have determined that this is the root of the problem. A pc was borrowed and returned mysteriously last night requiring a little housekeeping. As well, since my IP too was banned as were others, there appears to have been a problem with the forum mechanics, particularly yesterday.

I also noted that an Al Carson attended the club do, and his email is acarson@aol.com, a fictitious one since all messages bounce from it. Al is a funny proposition, often imitating various people (particularly a Vincent) to suit his own loopy ends. I have been told he was there. Maybe he was just emailing again. He means well and should be ignored or he will get worse. You get outrider types at these functions. If I tell him not to turn up he will bombard me with emails of a semi-humorous kind.

Need it be said that RTL&ES is the most honest of concerns , without being too self-promoting, and there's usually a simple explanation for anything unusual. It is generally the backlash from the havoc that Al has wreaked among skeptics who have not liked the treatment.

Anyway, if an apology is due you have it. I don't know what has transpired since I posted the initial offer to help Clondike Clad. That's all I wrote.

Thank you

RTL&ES

-HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL. IT'S NOT BAD TO BE ALONE.-

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"I think I spie a wee leprechaun standing there so you can appraise the matter to be sure, to be sure.. His name be Carl and he sells a lord of printers and many types of accusatory and negatory knick knacks. Begorrah, be Carl and he's pulling the leg it be. I've never bin so insulted in mi loif. I'm never goin to go there agen."

What an absolutely incredulous story. To my eye, a tear was brought.

I've seen half-hour situation comedies that weren't that convoluted and filled with baloney. How many folks here bought this latest literary masterpiece from Vincent Blanes?

Not I.................

Better luck next time, genius.

[Rangertell]

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I can see where you're coming from, but think it through. Al it was who left his graffiti on the username CP. You've no idea how complicated seven registrations and emails become. Al has an anti-skeptic hang up and he's not at all welcome until he recovers , for the fourth time in as many years.

You'll have to ask Aloysius Carson what I might come up with. It isn't me. Sorry. Masked adulation is inappropriate.

RTL&ES

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

You've no idea how complicated seven registrations and emails become.

In that case you should be pleased that you're now reduced to the login you started with. i.e. Rangertell.

And while you're modifying your profile, you might like to change your email address back to the one on your website, as (according to your own words) the email address acarson@aol.com is fictitious.

[Rangertell]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

In that case you should be pleased that you're now reduced to the login you started with. i.e. Rangertell.

And while you're modifying your profile, you might like to change your email address back to the one on your website, as (according to your own words) the email address acarson@aol.com is fictitious.

I thank you. That was the one there.
You've made this forum a lot easier to manage.

Al is the type of email goon you have to watch. If I knew him personally I would have to visit everyone with him twice. The second time to explain his actions. He's a very intelligent mimic though. Copy perfect. He'd make a master spy if he wasn't so irritating with his OC whatever.

RTL&ES





"And if you can't be with the one you love... love the one you're with." ............. 70's music

[joecoin]

I've been on a lot of internet forums throughout the years, and I've seen a lot of bizzare posts, but this whole thread is like something out of Dr Suess.

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by joecoin

I've been on a lot of internet forums throughout the years, and I've seen a lot of bizzare posts, but this whole thread is like something out of Dr Suess.

Now you know the world of Ranger-Tell. Deceptions, fabrications, and unintelligible writing.

[Rangertell]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Now you know the world of Ranger-Tell. Deceptions, fabrications, and unintelligible writing.

It's not Rangertell, Carl. It's Al Carson. Didn't you read the posts?
He's deceived you. I told you he was good. You have to be a polly to understand his writhings..I mean writings.

The answer's simple: Twisted identity-adopting skeptic tells annoying lies on forums. A like self arises viz in this case Al Carson. On other forums there are twisting, conniving counter-posts as the two forms face each other. Pretty to watch if you like dinosaur fighting. One changes and relaxes into a quiet rebuke on another forum. Al finds him and commences to counter again. There's the Seuss psychology etc. Personality clash. On the other forums Al wrote as RT. He simply continued his style.



RTL&ES




"Politics and the truth are bedfellows. Go figure." Anon

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

It's not Rangertell, Carl. It's Al Carson. Didn't you read the posts?
He's deceived you. I told you he was good. You have to be a polly to understand his writhings..I mean writings.

The answer's simple: Twisted identity-adopting skeptic tells annoying lies on forums. A like self arises viz in this case Al Carson. On other forums there are twisting, conniving counter-posts as the two forms face each other. Pretty to watch if you like dinosaur fighting. One changes and relaxes into a quiet rebuke on another forum. Al finds him and commences to counter again. There's the Seuss psychology etc. Personality clash. On the other forums Al wrote as RT. He simply continued his style.



RTL&ES




"Politics and the truth are bedfellows. Go figure." Anon

Whatever...

You're not fooling anyone, except yourself.
... and (of course) a few gullible members of the human race.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

It's not Rangertell, Carl. It's Al Carson. Didn't you read the posts?
He's deceived you. I told you he was good. You have to be a polly to understand his writhings..I mean writings.

Rave on... you are only digging a very deep hole for yourself, and really fooling no one; certainly not those you are responding to. Additionally, you are showing everyone what lengths you will go to while protecting a very shady business venture. Imagine the image you are projecting to potential "gullibles". Even the most gullible and technically-challenged will no doubt think twice before exposing themselves to your tactics.

There is no Al Carson, no Ranger-Tell, and no Mr Golding. There is only Vincent Blanes, who is quite perturbed at being exposed for the shenanigans he is responsible for.

Probably you should just cut your losses and bow out quietly; or I guess you could stick around and shoot your other foot off.

[Rangertell]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Rave on... you are only digging a very deep hole for yourself, and really fooling no one; certainly not those you are responding to. Additionally, you are showing everyone what lengths you will go to while protecting a very shady business venture. Imagine the image you are projecting to potential "gullibles". Even the most gullible and technically-challenged will no doubt think twice before exposing themselves to your tactics.

There is no Al Carson, no Ranger-Tell, and no Mr Golding. There is only Vincent Blanes, who is quite perturbed at being exposed for the shenanigans he is responsible for.

Probably you should just cut your losses and bow out quietly; or I guess you could stick around and shoot your other foot off.

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Well, well. What a place to meet you Sam, at the Gathering of the Delusional. There is no bad Carl, no bad CC...only Theseus or bad Sam S. What are you up to these days you old stick (or should I say skeptical black sheep)?

You guys won't get off your asses and do anything. You're only here to seek attention.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

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Well, well. What a place to meet you Sam, at the Gathering of the Delusional. There is no bad Carl, no bad CC...only Theseus or bad Sam S. What are you up to these days you old stick (or should I say skeptical black sheep)?

You guys won't get off your asses and do anything. You're only here to seek attention.

Delusional??? I guess you must be looking in the mirror again. You remind me of a cute little poem I once read:

I met a man upon the stair
A little man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish to heck he'd go away

[Rangertell]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Delusional??? I guess you must be looking in the mirror again. You remind me of a cute little poem I once read:

I met a man upon the stair
A little man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish to heck he'd go away

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Alright for you fella to drive round in another man's vehicle hollering you're some kind of a god called Theseus and claiming invisible little men you are deluded enough to see are hiding from you. Leprechauns of course.

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Don't listen to those voices in the background. They're probably false identities Sam's constructed. A guy with a junkyard running a forum here?
Nah!

Well, it's my birthday today and I'm almost late for a party. I'm 42. Au revoir.

AC

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

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Alright for you fella to drive round in another man's vehicle hollering you're some kind of a god called Theseus and claiming invisible little men you are deluded enough to see are hiding from you. Leprechauns of course.

......

Don't listen to those voices in the background. They're probably false identities Sam's constructed. A guy with a junkyard running a forum here?
Nah!

Well, it's my birthday today and I'm almost late for a party. I'm 42. Au revoir.

AC

Oops!

Looks like you've slipped up again. Now you claim to be Ranger-Tell, and not Al Carson ... BUT - you've just signed out as AC.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Oops!

Looks like you've slipped up again. Now you claim to be Ranger-Tell, and not Al Carson ... BUT - you've just signed out as AC.

Lynx eye Qiaozhi ?

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Oops!

Looks like you've slipped up again. Now you claim to be Ranger-Tell, and not Al Carson ... BUT - you've just signed out as AC.

When you have as many aliases as he has created in his little head, I imagine it is real hard to keep track of all them, or to even remember which one he is at that moment.

Then, of course, he has the added problem of believing he is talking to his long lost friends(?) from some previous encounter he had. I think the poor guy might need a Daily Planner and a Secretary just to help him keep it all straight.

Me thinks it might have been just as easy to be Vincent Blanes and skip all the intrigue and cloak and dagger stuff, especially since he hasn't fooled anyone anyway. But, whatever...........

[J_Player]

Hi Rangertell,

It seems the forum has strayed from the original purpose of this thread: "One more to prove the concept".
I can see there have been difficulties in establishing the correct identity, but assuming I am talking to the person who represents the RangerTell company, perhaps we can get past any confusion of who might have been posting previously. Any continued accusations and finger-pointing seem a waste of time when there is only one issue to deal with: "Does the RangerTell work"?

Most of the skeptics in this forum don't believe the RangerTell Examiner will find treasure because they can't imagine any way the internal components could work. Neither can I. But I do not share the views of the other skeptics in this forum whereby I must understand the working principles before I will admit a device works. All I need is to see it working reliably, then I can work out the details of how I think it works later. Just because I can't imagine how it can work does not mean it can't work. The only real proof of the pudding is in the eating. This means, that if the RangerTell finds treasure for people who use it, then it is a valuable commodity, regardless of what principle it works on. This is why I am willing to provide a fair test for any LRL to do what it is claimed to do in public with any skeptics and LRL proponents watching to insure the testing is fair.

The reason I bring this up is that Clondike Clad recently declined to accept the replacement RangerTell you offered. I would be willing to accept his replacement and then test it at some known treasure bearing locations in the area where I live (Southern California). When testing the RangerTell, I will also invite any forum members to watch the testing. I know there are several members of this forum who live in my area, who are neither for or against long range locators. It would be most helpful if a RangerTell agent were present to properly adjust the RangerTell Examiner in order to insure we are using it in it's optimum treasure seeking mode. But if there is no agent available, then I suppose the CD will explain how to properly use the RangerTell. If the RangerTell works as you say it does, then I will be the first to place my order for another on ebay, and I know at least one other customer from this forum who will buy if he sees it work in a credible live test.

I will also be happy to post photos in this forum and the other major treasure hunting forums of the RangerTell in action, as well as hold weekend demonstrations for anyone who wants to see it work.This could be an opportunity to prove that the RangerTell Examiner works in spite of what Carl-NC says, and to prove it in his own forum. If you want, I could also put up a professional web page showing the RangerTell working, and inviting people for weekend demonstrations.

It is sad that Clondike Clad is not willing to accept his replacement RangerTell.
So why not send it to me. I can guarantee it will see a lot of high visibility use in the field.

Please post an answer in this forum.
If you are interested, we can handle the details in PMs.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

works in spite of what Carl-NC says, and to prove it in his own forum.

I surely don't know why Carl, would claim LRL doesn't work when there have been several instances of treasure recoveries reported by users of Carl's LRL.
Here is the latest one I ran across.

I'm sure it cost some bucks to bring in Frank Casser, and his equipment to verify locations made with Carl's LRL.

[QUOTE]OK...Here's a picture to satisfy the OKM fans...found with my own LRL (a design a copied from Carl's website and then tweaked to work properly...lol), I then verified the site with 5 of Bob's Fitzgerald's Instruments (Navigator, Trailblazer, Mother Load (GR), Maxi-Pulse Plus PI w/4' Loop, and the PPL. Then for sh*#'s and giggles I brought in Frank Casser with every OKM instrument known to man...lol. Frank Casser verified what I had already discovered with my little LRL design that I got thanks to one of the biggest LRL pessimist in the world...ROFLMAO Thanks Carl /QUOTE]

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I surely don't know why Carl, would claim LRL doesn't work when there have been several instances of treasure recoveries reported by users of Carl's LRL.

Here is the latest one I ran across. "OK...Here's a picture to satisfy the OKM fans...found with my own LRL (a design a copied from Carl's website and then tweaked to work properly...lol), I then verified the site with 5 of Bob's Fitzgerald's Instruments (Navigator, Trailblazer, Mother Load (GR), Maxi-Pulse Plus PI w/4' Loop, and the PPL. Then for sh*#'s and giggles I brought in Frank Casser with every OKM instrument known to man...lol. Frank Casser verified what I had already discovered with my little LRL design that I got thanks to one of the biggest LRL pessimist in the world...ROFLMAO Thanks Carl

Perhaps Carl claims LRL doesn't work because you refuse to demonstrate any LRL you sell working. You quoted a post made by someone claims a single find that he did not recover... and a lot of rhetoric about how treasure was verified. Are you aware that Carl has already pointed out the number of chance real treasure recoveries made by people who sometimes don't even have treasure hunting equipment? These are well documented in the newspapers over the years. Now you try to prove Carl wrong with another un-recovered treasure?

Are you ready to demonstrate any of your LRLs working live in front of skeptic witnesses from this forum actually recovering treasure? Or should we assume they don't work, and the best you can do is call people names and refer to ancient chance discoveries made by others that cannot be verified to show your LRLs work?

Somehow, I expected this BS from you. Lots of talk and no action when it comes to showing your goods working.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Steve in MS]

J_Player, I know your intentions are good but regarding your post to Rangertell.
He will never go along with this line of reasoning because the mystique is whether his device actually works or not.
As long as he can keep ones guessing about the usefullness of his products, he has a chance of making a sell.
I have to admit like you however, I don't have to know how something works, just as long as it does.
The trouble with LRLs, especially these swindle types, hmmmm, I mean swivel types, there is no way to ever know if they are really working as they will swing around if the wind is blowing them and if the pivot is not perfectly held vertical at all times while using it.
On top of all that, I bet inertia of movement can cause the turning of the rod.
My question: How could anyone guarantee such a contraption to find anything?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Steve in MS

J_Player, I know your intentions are good but regarding your post to Rangertell.
He will never go along with this line of reasoning because the mystique is whether him device actually works or not.

...My question: How could anyone guarantee such a contraption to find anything?

Hi Steve in MS,

Rangertell can speak for himself. Whether he goes along with it is his decision.

How he can guarantee it is something we do not know, since we don't understand the principles under which it works. So any presumptions we make are just guesses. The only way we will know for sure is to use it and see it working live. Once we see it working and finding targets, then all our rhetoric about how it can't work will become pure BS rather than speculative thinking.

Best wishes,
J_P