What did you find with a lrl

[abdou2014]

Hi , is it necessary to put the led in a black tube ?

[Jeg]

Originally Posted by abdou2014

is it not the one we use in the fire detector ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Flame-Senso...-/173342113403

Hi abdou2014
What is your opinion on this module? Is it sensitive enough to detect IR emissions from metals? Or it is better to build one from scratch like Morgan did?





Thanks in advance

[abdou2014]

I was wrong about everything, I have all changed, the led and the circuit

[Jeg]

Thanks Abdou! Very interesting technique anyway. With some short of demodulation it might catches those fields from longer distances than few meters.

[Geo]

Here is another find from a Serbian friend.
It is a silver ancient Greek ring. He found it with Alonso's PD clone.

[Geo]

another Roman coin from the Serbian friend Bojan.
If the phenomenon is strong then the PD makes good "job"....

[JHERICKU]

Hello Geo,I am happy that u are showing result of lrl..Can u advice us newbies an effective electronic lrl?I am using spring dowsing rod but I am planing to connect in a signal generator or to make an electronic lrl..which one can u advice?
REGARDS..

[kostas87]

Εύελπις( Ευέλπιστός )εστιν εικότως,
Ως κλήρον έξει τον Θεόν τμηθείς κάραν.

Τhe ring is just wonderful!

[Mike(Mont)]

Originally Posted by JHERICKU

Hello Geo,I am happy that u are showing result of lrl..Can u advice us newbies an effective electronic lrl?I am using spring dowsing rod but I am planing to connect in a signal generator or to make an electronic lrl..which one can u advice?
REGARDS..

You can use a DDS signal generator and hook up one or two L-rods to the output. I've never experienced an electrical shock but I heard somebody did with a somewhat different unit. High humidity or rain might want to wear insulated gloves. Power it with a cheap 5 volt cellphone power pack. Some sofisticated power packs won't work. There thousands similar to this on ebay.

Something like this:https://www.ebay.com/itm/36365378833...MAAOSwRwFfSFJx

[Mike(Mont)]

Here is one I put together a while back. I hand it around my neck. You can put some electrical tape over the copper handles if you are nervous. I hasn't bothered me.

[Mike(Mont)]

n/t

[Mike(Mont)]

Frequencies. These in khz, not mhz!

[Geo]

This system don't works properly.
It can locate objects even with wrong frequences but loses the center.
I believe that the signal from generator excites the operator and not the goal.
10Hz was enouth to move 10..20cm the center from the target...

[Mike(Mont)]

Works best with the box-in method. Yeah, these are old frequencies but I have used a few of them.

[Mike(Mont)]

Or you can pound two brass rods into the ground 20 cm or so deep 2-5 cm apart and hook the signal generator up to them then wait five minutes and circle it (at a distance of 3 m minimum) with your L-rods or spring rod. When you get a rod response put a mark on the ground. Then move the generator over 10 - 20 m and repeat. Where the two lines intersect is your suspected target area.

[Mike(Mont)]

Geo, better think again about the generator only charging the person. Why does PD use a stimulator?

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Geo, better think again about the generator only charging the person. Why does PD use a stimulator?

It's a diferent case. At PD its a coil stimulator, not a mind stimulator.
At PD even if we stimulate the target... is done at distance of few meter in oposite with l-rods where it is happening at distances of (maybe) hundrents meters.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Or you can pound two brass rods into the ground 20 cm or so deep 2-5 cm apart and hook the signal generator up to them then wait five minutes and circle it (at a distance of 3 m minimum) with your L-rods or spring rod. When you get a rod response put a mark on the ground. Then move the generator over 10 - 20 m and repeat. Where the two lines intersect is your suspected target area.

I tried it many times but i found better to pound the rods at bigger distance (40-50 cm).
The disadvadage was that was need more power from generator.

[Geo]

The generator and the amplifier that i was using

[Geo]

Here at area test (on 200.If i remember the frequency at display is for silver (13.92 khz)

[Mike(Mont)]

Originally Posted by Geo

It's a diferent case. At PD its a coil stimulator, not a mind stimulator.
At PD even if we stimulate the target... is done at distance of few meter in oposite with l-rods where it is happening at distances of (maybe) hundrents meters.

I guess we can agree to disagree. Look at the original God Gun it used VLF radio stations as the stimulator. Then when they shut down the LORAN system it wouldn't work any more. So the next model had it's own transmitter. As ar as I know all locators use one or the other.

[Mike(Mont)]

Originally Posted by Geo

I tried it many times but i found better to pound the rods at bigger distance (40-50 cm).
The disadvadage was that was need more power from generator.

Yes, I have seen some that separate the ground probes by several meters. Dell Winders said you can point the probes up it the air just 2-3 cm apart. This would be similar to using two L-rods. Imagine the probes/L-rods form an RC circuit. The gap between the probes/L-rods acts as a capacitor. Of you can use a coil. Either way you are sending out a signal that hits the target.

Some ground is too conductive and the signal cannot maintain pressure wave--it leaks out into the soil. So I suspect the wider spacing might work better here. Real dry soil needs closer spacing.

So yeah, there is a lot of discrepency. Rayfinder measures the resistance between the probes and adjusts to that. And as Dell Winders said, the air probes give greater range, and then as you get close to the target you can switch over to ground probes. His locators all used minimal power.

[Geo]

My Serbian friend Bojan sent me yesterday a silver coin that he found on October 2021.
It is a very beautifull coin!!!!
He found it with the use of a PD modified by me, constructed by Dragan Dubulumach and adjusted by him.
He found it at distance near to 20m and depth 40cm.
I believe that it is the biggest performance of PD for only one coin.... or the phenomenon was very very strong

Regards

[Pahom]

Yes, a gorgeous find. Congratulations to Serbian Seekers and you with the purchase of such a coin !!!!!

[Pahom]

Geo Happy Birthday to you !!!!!! Health, Health, Health. And good finds under the coil of your LRL !!!!!!!