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Old 06-08-2009, 02:14 PM
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Post proof the your LRL works and others can test it.

Ok me first I have a XL PRO metal detector LRL that can detect a 55 gal drum.
8 feet or more deep with a 25inch coil ,the detector is set in the all metal mode .
Anyone with a XLPRO with a 25inch coil can also do this test.

ULA-3/Sierra Madre can also do this with the 25 inch coil.

TM 808 can do it and better.

Gerrett gti 2500 with the tressure hound can do it and better.

Fisher's Gemini-3 can do it and better.

I know other detectors can but you get the point.

ANYONE CAN DO THE SANE TEST.


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Old 06-08-2009, 02:50 PM
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Amazing! Are those facts, that can be repeated and proven by double blind testing in front of anyone at anytime and in any country ?
If so i consuider this trustable and usefull information.
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Amazing! Are those facts, that can be repeated and proven by double blind testing in front of anyone at anytime and in any country ?
If so i consuider this trustable and usefull information.
THE ANSWER IS YES,YES,YES AND YES.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:53 PM
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Yes. It is true and fact.
Spectrum can do. DFX can do. Relic Hawk can do. XP can do.Nexus can do. Nautilus can do. Explorer SE can do.
I presume many others also can do that with apropriate coils.
It is testable and provable anywhere in any country at any place. Very easy to check.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:06 PM
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Hi,
I already told you.... asking for proofs is like asking an elephant to start producing diamonds by its B*TT!

Simply... don't work like this... you must buy your own LRL, spending thousand dollars and test by yourself... hearing the random beeps and if don't find anything means the treasure there is BUT at 1 mile underground !

I would like to see a working LRL stuff... but till now... jus BIG CLAIMS!

Big smoke... and no facts.

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Old 06-09-2009, 04:22 PM
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Hi,
I already told you.... asking for proofs is like asking an elephant to start producing diamonds by its B*TT!

Simply... don't work like this... you must buy your own LRL, spending thousand dollars and test by yourself... hearing the random beeps and if don't find anything means the treasure there is BUT at 1 mile underground !

I would like to see a working LRL stuff... but till now... jus BIG CLAIMS!

Big smoke... and no facts.

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I posted this information so show that we do have working LRL detectors and anyone can make them work.
So if anyone made a working LRL it should WORK.
Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime
That is the proof we all are looking for.
If you post a working LRL, it should work for all operators at all times and anywhere.(we know you need to know how to run the units)
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:12 PM
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Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime
That is the proof we all are looking for.If you post a working LRL, it should work for all operators at all times and anywhere.(we know you need to know how to run the units)
Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime?
Are you sure?
Arem't there some places and times these detectors won't work?
For example:
1. Inside an MRI machine in a hospital.
2. Searchcoil held 2 inches above the hot lava flow at the Kilauea volcano in hawaii
3. Under a Tesla coil that is sending 10 ft long, 5KW sparks to the searchcoil.

I doubt these conditions would allow consistent readings on your metal detectors. Of course, these are extreme conditions for any metal detector. But don't the LRL proponents talk about extreme conditions for LRLs?

Remember words to teh effect that in order to work, the LRL must be away from electrical noise, no solar activity that interferes, remove clothes that collect static charge, walk and move the LRL slowly, only works good certain hours of the day.

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Old 06-09-2009, 10:19 PM
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Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime?
Are you sure?
Arem't there some places and times these detectors won't work?
For example:
1. Inside an MRI machine in a hospital.
2. Searchcoil held 2 inches above the hot lava flow at the Kilauea volcano in hawaii
3. Under a Tesla coil that is sending 10 ft long, 5KW sparks
to the
"WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND WILL USE A DETECTOR UNDER A TESLA COIL OR IN A MRI OR HOT LAVA FLOW....COME ON !"
searchcoil.

I doubt these conditions would allow consistent readings on your metal detectors. Of course, these are extreme conditions for any metal detector. But don't the LRL proponents talk about extreme conditions for LRLs?

Remember words to teh effect that in order to work, the LRL must be away from electrical noise, no solar activity that interferes, remove clothes that collect static charge, walk and move the LRL slowly, only works good certain hours of the day.

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I know you get the point!!!!!!!!!
But facts are facts and bull is bull.
I'm back to lurking
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:48 PM
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Remember words to teh effect that in order to work, the LRL must be away from electrical noise, no solar activity that interferes, remove clothes that collect static charge, walk and move the LRL slowly, only works good certain hours of the day.
I also seem to remember that Hung used an empty stomach as one of the excuses. Or was that someone else?
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"...3. Under a Tesla coil that is sending 10 ft long, 5KW sparks to the searchcoil...."

Ehhh! Ask me! I know that! Dont ask me how i know that! (still under shock, do not pay attention on me for a while)
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Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime?
Are you sure?
Arem't there some places and times these detectors won't work?
For example:
1. Inside an MRI machine in a hospital.
2. Searchcoil held 2 inches above the hot lava flow at the Kilauea volcano in hawaii
3. Under a Tesla coil that is sending 10 ft long, 5KW sparks to the searchcoil.

I doubt these conditions would allow consistent readings on your metal detectors. Of course, these are extreme conditions for any metal detector. But don't the LRL proponents talk about extreme conditions for LRLs?

Remember words to teh effect that in order to work, the LRL must be away from electrical noise, no solar activity that interferes, remove clothes that collect static charge, walk and move the LRL slowly, only works good certain hours of the day.

Best wishes,
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You do have a point.The problem arise when natural conditions are in stake...that could influence the way LRL works...or don´t.
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:16 AM
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Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime?
Are you sure?
Arem't there some places and times these detectors won't work?
For example:
1. Inside an MRI machine in a hospital.
2. Searchcoil held 2 inches above the hot lava flow at the Kilauea volcano in hawaii
3. Under a Tesla coil that is sending 10 ft long, 5KW sparks to the searchcoil.

I doubt these conditions would allow consistent readings on your metal detectors. Of course, these are extreme conditions for any metal detector. But don't the LRL proponents talk about extreme conditions for LRLs?

Remember words to teh effect that in order to work, the LRL must be away from electrical noise, no solar activity that interferes, remove clothes that collect static charge, walk and move the LRL slowly, only works good certain hours of the day.

Best wishes,
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Hi J_P
Do you mean 5KW or 5KV spark???

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Old 06-10-2009, 06:53 AM
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Do you mean 5KW or 5KV spark???

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5KV aren't enough for 10ft long sparks... so must be 5KW stuff...

hmmmm... I like that... needs some gasoline powered stuff... big generator there... and lot of cables

Nice.... problem is how the heck this thing, if don't pulverizes you, help in finding treasures...

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Old 06-10-2009, 09:00 AM
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Hi J_P
Do you mean 5KW or 5KV spark???

Regards
10 foot spark ! well a 5Mv spark can do it but at 5KW now that is the power some LRL will need to detect.Beam me up or out.
It is gona HURT IN THE DIRT.
BUT WE DO KNOW WE HAVE REAL A real LRL DETECTOR THAT T WORKS.
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Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime
That is the proof we all are looking for.

...Any detectors on this post will work of anyone anyplace anytime
That is the proof we all are looking for.


..."WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND WILL USE A DETECTOR UNDER A TESLA COIL OR IN A MRI OR HOT LAVA FLOW....COME ON !"
Who?
Any metal detector skeptic who wanted to prove that the detectors on this post will not work of anyone anyplace anytime


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Really i dont understand anything.
Sorry for my bad english.....

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Do you know how detect with HV at some distance?
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:20 PM
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Mr. Clad, your memory... But to use it is very complex... Discussion and pics on these threads:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12808

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...t=12808&page=2
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Mr. Clad, your memory... But to use it is very complex... Discussion and pics on these threads:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12808

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...t=12808&page=2
Hi Esteban,

The trouble is that these photos were taken 17 years ago!

Do you not have anything more recent?
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Mr. Clad, your memory... But to use it is very complex... Discussion and pics on these threads:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12808

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...t=12808&page=2
All I did was to post real working LRL that can be tested.
If Carl put a 55 gal drum 8 foot deep 1WILL DETECT IT WITH MY XL PRO with the 25inch coil.
AND TAKE HIS $25,000.
BUT CARL IS TOO SMART FOR THAT.
ALL IN ALL A TOOL THAT WORKS SHOULD WORK FOR ALL USERS OF THAT TOOL.
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Greetings…in picture #4 above, one of the fellows appears to be labeled “Police”. Is that supposed to add validation that the contraption works…or, is the “Police” on site for crowd control? Cool how the illusion includes a real metal detector to actually “find” the target.

One can only wonder if the target was palmed, like in the famous Dowsing for Dollars video.
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Hi Esteban,

The trouble is that these photos were taken 17 years ago!

Do you not have anything more recent?
The above 2 is of 2002-2003. I see a man with this skill, and almost not failed. But his method is very complex, complex mean not common searching method. But the first of all is some attitude: if in the start you put bad dispossition, of course, doesn't work. Ideomotor responses born when somebody tell you, for example: "I believe that in the direction of this three is a treasure". So this man (the operator) don't ask nothing and also don't wish to hear... When wind is strong, is not possible. This man use heavy LRL rods. In one hand has a small box with samples (not at sight, yes in small receptacle as buttons).

I remember one time this: he touch gold. Nothing. Silver: slow movement in direction to a house. The house was at hundreds meters. Here you must to obtain pemission of the landlord. OK. The site wax fixed and excavation starts. At 2.20 meters was found 11 Spanish silver coins, XVIII century, in an strange receptacle: a hoof of cow!!!

Of course, maybe a day can film this man and his method.
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All I did was to post real working LRL that can be tested.
If Carl put a 55 gal drum 8 foot deep 1WILL DETECT IT WITH MY XL PRO with the 25inch coil.
Errrr....
Not if the drum is inside an MRI machine at a hospital,
under a hot lava flow at the Kilauea volcano in Hawaii, with the searchcoil held 2" above the lava,
or under a tesla coil that is sending 10 foot long, 5KW sparks to the searchcoil....

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