Bob Yocum

[Carl-NC]

Continuing...

Email 7/19/2006

Bob,

I sent you the draft contract several weeks ago, asking for your feedback on it. Until we have fully agreed on the test protocol, and I have a signed contract in hand, there is no way I am going to spend hundreds of dollars to come out to Nevada. That would be foolish.

As I said before, I have absolutely no interest in your "demonstrations," and they have nothing at all to do with my challenge. I've seen other LRL dealers do them before, and I can do them myself... they are not valid tests. Your LRL devices do not work, an assertion I stand firmly behind, backed up with $25,000. And, I don't recall that I've made any public comment about your character.

When I receive a signed copy of the final contract (not the draft), I will see how the remainder of the summer looks, and propose a test date.

Regards,
Carl

Email 7/26/2006

Bob,

I received your signature page on Saturday. I am definitely tied up for the next 3-4 weekends, but will gladly schedule a trip to Gardnerville in late August or early September. Please let me know what works best for you.

Regards,
Carl

[Carl-NC]

Bob sends me his spin on his demonstrations:

Email 7/28/2006

We had a good demonstrtion on July 22 in spite of the heat. All demonstrations we tried were perfect. The demonstration on discrimination was perfect with the dot-size piece of AU between 2, 25 lb bags of lead. We also placed a larger piece of AU there with the same bags of lead and with the same discrimination. I did add a demo on calibrating by pointing out that the larger piece held the rods pointing to my chest much longer than the speck of gold. We then placed a red emerald between the bags of lead and got the same discrimination.

I forgot to mention that I had a person in the audience pick up the same target placed on the top of the lead after the rods were pointing to my chest and the rods opened immediately in all three trials.

In all demonstrations, I cautioned everybody to watch my hands to see if they moved. Some people were 6 feet away and they reported that my hands did not move at all! (I know you have a phobia on the hands-moving subject).

We did do a tracking demonstration on a 43 lb meteorite; 22 Gr of UR; nitrates; and the red emerald. These specimens were carried around the pavillion by volunteers with 100% success - and with no movement in my hands!

Carl, in view of your heavy schedule, cancellations, and our successful demonstration, I am not interested in you or your $25,000.

Bob Yocum

But this is NOT what eyewitnesses to his "tests" have told me:

Email 7/28/2006

Bob,

I've heard from two people who were present at your demonstration -- ironically, both are strong LRL proponents -- and both have painted a completely different picture than have you.

They both say it was a disaster, and that in the only test you performed which had even a hint of fairness to it, you completely failed to locate the targets. Essentially, they said your device only seemed to "work" when you knew the identity and location of the target. They also said you seemed to be forcibly manipulating the L-rods, and that others noticed it, too.

I was also forwarded an email in which you told someone that you did not know the first contract I sent you was a draft. I clearly stated that it was a draft in the email, and I clearly asked you provide feedback on the terms of the contract so that I could finalize it. Please don't blame me for your oversight.

I'm beginning to think that your primary goal was simply to get me out to your sales demo, and not to follow through on the challenge. That's one reason why I never ever make travel plans without a signed contract. As I told you twice before, I have no interest whatsoever in rigged demos that even LRL enthusiasts say were bogus.

Please don't let my busy schedule disuade you from following through on taking the challenge. Remember, I am the one who is traveling, at my expense, and I am the one who is putting up the prize money. Since this is costing you nothing at all, and you need not even leave town, I would hope you could allow me some flexibility in scheduling. Also, the test we have agreed on does not require the rental of a pavilion; we can do it in your back yard, or a school yard, or just about anywhere.

Bob, as soon you give the word that we are still on for this, I will nail down a date and buy a plane ticket. I am eager to see if your LRL will work when you are completely deprived of knowing the locations of the targets you seek. But perhaps after the failures at your sales demo, you already know the answer, and wish to withdraw. Please let me know.

Regards,
Carl

[Carl-NC]

Email 8/8/2006

Bob,

I looks like my travel schedule is open for September, weekend of the 16th, 23rd, or 30th. Please let me know if any of those dates work for you.

If you do not wish to pursue this any further, please respond as such.

Regards,
Carl

No response from Bob. I have to assume that he has withdrawn from the challenge.

[Carl-NC]

Bob posted the following on his web site:

August 9, 2006

Carl, as I pointed out in a recent e-mail to you, I am not going to get on your merry-go-round. We had a demonstration scheduled for your benefit, but you declined for the second time.

I kept my part of the bargain by holding the demonstration and had very successful results proving discrimination, accuracy and tracking ability.

You seem to have a phobia that the rods turn only when the operator moves his hands or fingers to make the rods turn. In my demonstration neither my hands or fingers moved. Yesterday, one of the people present at the demonstration drive in from Silver Springs, NV, to congratulate us on the demonstration of the capabilities of the Omni-Range Master. I asked him if he saw my hands or fingers move during this demonstration. He said, "I was as close to you as anybody and your hands or fingers did not move."

Carl, you never answered my question as to what or who is GeoTech? Secondly, what is your relationship to GeoTech? Thirdly, since there is a metal detector pictured as your (or GeoTech's) logo, what is your connection with the metal detector industry? And fourth, who gave you the authority to run around the country and the internet policing every long-distance mineral locator business?

Sincerely,
Bob Yocum

My reply:

Email 9/3/2006

Bob,

I see from your web page that you are backing out of my challenge, and even blaming me! Furthermore, it appears from your statements that your real objective was only to get me out for your "sales demonstration" which, as I've told you at least twice before, I have absolutely no interest in. I get the clear impression that you only wanted me to see your sales demo, and had no intention of following through on the challenge.

I will maintain my offer of $25,000 plus 10 ounces of gold, if your LRL does what you claim it will do. Since my challenge requires nothing of you but a few hours of your time, your decision to reject my $25,000 offer indicates that your LRL does not do what you claim it does, and that you know this fact as well as I. I will forward this information to the Nevada investigator who is handling your case, as I'm sure he will find it useful in your upcoming hearing.

Should you change your mind again, and decide that you want to follow through on the challenge, I will gladly arrange a visit to Gardnerville. However, my time there will be strictly limited to the challenge, so you need not plan a bunch of other "sales demonstrations" for me.

Regards,
Carl

P.S. -- Regarding your questions, I will gladly answer them:

Carl, you never answered my question as to what or who is GeoTech?

Geotech is a web site.

Secondly, what is your relationship to GeoTech?

I run the Geotech web site.

Thirdly, since there is a metal detector pictured as your (or GeoTech's) logo, what is your connection with the metal detector industry?

None whatsoever.

And fourth, who gave you the authority to run around the country and the internet policing every long-distance mineral locator business?

I wasn't aware I needed any "authority" to expose bogus LRLs. I do it as a service to the treasure hunting community, to help people avoid products that are nothing but blatant rip-offs.