A patent to detect substances by infrared like Esteban used.

[gaucho1961]

Originally Posted by humhum

''When I went to the beach with him when I was there, the ionic fields were terribly low.
My PDC seemed useless.''
Yes , in test also my Mineoro not work near sea in beach , about my PD , I not test it and not know , but I believe that will work , because is
this is Electro Magnetic detector not Ionic/Electrostatik ..

''Someone said that on the forum, and that's what I have been talking about reading the fields and their good and bad times of propagation.'
Yes right need good wheather coundition for Find Buried , but these condition valid only for
Ionic receivers .

''My system, as I said, is very simplified,''
What parts have Your Dowsing Rod system ?
I think that is so : One Rod using for Antenna , classifier , PCB electronic with parts and
Beeper (all this is inside of handhold ) .

'' I can't post more pictures without revealing what it looks like. In the photo of the topic I posted to see how small the 2 sets on the Antenna are ''
You Why said MORE , before did You post any photos ? Where is this Link or topic
please show me about small the 2 sets on the Antenna , I can't find it .

Good afternoon my friends,
Actually the master in long distance schemes is Alonso, Damasio enters this context with something that Alonso did not have, offering a partnership for manufacturing, in the industrial part, machinery, laboratory, oscilloscopes and other sophisticated electronics instruments, apart of electronic engineering, and electro mechanics for the development of projects and circuits, in the financial part, and with the years Damasio ended up having a participation in the development and creation of these long distance detectors.
It is worth mentioning that, even with all the partnership and this friendship during long years working together, Alonso always kept secrets that he knew, he did not open all his knowledge to Damasio.
Damasio was always a difficult person to live with, he was very stubborn, if he said anything, or showed how it should be done, his idea could not be changed or altered. Alonso always kept secrets and discoveries about his projects, even for Damasio, he showed his hand, but not the whole arm, and I believe that this was reciprocal of Damasio.
When Alonso stopped going to Garopaba, the detectors lost quality and the responsibility to be repaired and to receive upgrades from the inventor. It is a pity that this happened in the relationship between the company Mineoro and Alonso.
Certainly Alonso keeps the best for him, he must have a lot stored and drawn on sheets of paper, diagrams and circuitry of long-distance detectors that were never produced and manufactured for commercial purposes.
Today, after being separated from his wife, he lives alone assembling and selling his detectors to survive in a room in a house in Paraguay.
It is the yellow pistol, the white and some other models, but the good thing about all the discoveries in the area of ​​long distance he does not produce and does not reveal to anyone.
I have heard that he received visits and offers from directors of major detector factories, but he rejected them all.
He is still hurt and disappointed with the partnership relationship with Mineoro, and due to his age he will certainly take everything he knows and has saved for the grave, a pity really.

[Geo]

Yes, you have right. The only person who was know his secrets was Esteban but now his problems don't let him to give them to other.... Two years ago, i was plan to visit Esteban and to make a big discourse about lrls, but job and Covid-19 did n't allow me. Now the years gone and it comes more difficult to do this visit....
Also i am afraid that Esteban don't remember all secrets so well!!!
From the other side we must not forget that Alonso many times used tricks to do his lrls to beep and to sell them. I know some ocasions....

[gaucho1961]

Originally Posted by Geo

Yes, you have right. The only person who was know his secrets was Esteban but now his problems don't let him to give them to other.... Two years ago, i was plan to visit Esteban and to make a big discourse about lrls, but job and Covid-19 did n't allow me. Now the years gone and it comes more difficult to do this visit....
Also i am afraid that Esteban don't remember all secrets so well!!!
From the other side we must not forget that Alonso many times used tricks to do his lrls to beep and to sell them. I know some ocasions....

True, Esteban was Alonso apprentice and pupil, and he learned a lot from Alonso, in a time when everything was different. I covered a lot with Esteban, a dear friend who suffered this fatality, a silent illness that left him unable to work with the detectors and the electronics that brought so much satisfaction and joy, another genius and who was very knowledgeable. I heard that he doesn't even like to comment and talk about it anymore, because it brings a lot of sadness and depression, his life has changed 100% in every way. I exchanged many ideas with him, projects and circuits that I did, some he made the right correction and then sent me, we exchanged many projects, and he was always an important person to me, he helped me and encouraged me to create detector projects. I talked to him a lot, even after the problem, the disease, but the subject was always about electronics and detectors ... and that saddened him, and little by little we stopped talking to each other, but I always hear about him. , by mutual friends.

[Douglass]

Originally Posted by gaucho1961

True, Esteban was Alonso apprentice and pupil, and he learned a lot from Alonso, in a time when everything was different. I covered a lot with Esteban, a dear friend who suffered this fatality, a silent illness that left him unable to work with the detectors and the electronics that brought so much satisfaction and joy, another genius and who was very knowledgeable. I heard that he doesn't even like to comment and talk about it anymore, because it brings a lot of sadness and depression, his life has changed 100% in every way. I exchanged many ideas with him, projects and circuits that I did, some he made the right correction and then sent me, we exchanged many projects, and he was always an important person to me, he helped me and encouraged me to create detector projects. I talked to him a lot, even after the problem, the disease, but the subject was always about electronics and detectors ... and that saddened him, and little by little we stopped talking to each other, but I always hear about him. , by mutual friends.

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Very good to bring us this information thanks! Gaucho I see a channel, with his AG 90 device, excellent LRL, Parabens.

[humhum]

May God help Alonso and Esteban, but it would be very sad if such valuable information will be
lost after some time.

[abdou2014]

I wish a complete recovery for our dear friend Esteban

[Geo]

Originally Posted by gaucho1961

True, Esteban was Alonso apprentice and pupil, and he learned a lot from Alonso, in a time when everything was different. I covered a lot with Esteban, a dear friend who suffered this fatality, a silent illness that left him unable to work with the detectors and the electronics that brought so much satisfaction and joy, another genius and who was very knowledgeable. I heard that he doesn't even like to comment and talk about it anymore, because it brings a lot of sadness and depression, his life has changed 100% in every way. I exchanged many ideas with him, projects and circuits that I did, some he made the right correction and then sent me, we exchanged many projects, and he was always an important person to me, he helped me and encouraged me to create detector projects. I talked to him a lot, even after the problem, the disease, but the subject was always about electronics and detectors ... and that saddened him, and little by little we stopped talking to each other, but I always hear about him. , by mutual friends.

The strange of the story is other........
Paraguay showed up two specialist on LRLs (maybe the best all over the world), Alonso and Esteban.
Although they constructed a lot of lrls all these years i don't see members from Paraguay here at forum. It is like they don't looking for Treasures hunting...

Strange!!!!

[gaucho1961]

Originally Posted by Douglass

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Very good to bring us this information thanks! Gaucho I see a channel, with his AG 90 device, excellent LRL, Parabens.

Originally Posted by Geo

The strange of the story is other........
Paraguay showed up two specialist on LRLs (maybe the best all over the world), Alonso and Esteban.
Although they constructed a lot of lrls all these years i don't see members from Paraguay here at forum. It is like they don't looking for Treasures hunting...

Strange!!!!

Good night friends,
Esteban had this glaucoma in the back of his eyes, and despite all medical efforts, it was something very serious and irreversible unfortunately.
I understand perfectly, and I know that everyone here putting himself in his place will also know how hard it was and it is being difficult for him and for his whole family.
This depression that he has faced since he had glaucoma is natural, because this disease took him away from the things he liked most and was part of his life, electronics, long-distance detectors, computers, and any technology that appeared on the world market. Unfortunately, I know that many projects that are still unfinished, prototypes will be lost in time, both on the part of Alonso and Esteban, this is inevitable, as the two closed themselves off to the world in this area, one does not even want to speak and comment on the respect for electronics and detectors because he gets sick and depressed, this is Esteban, and Alonso only manufactures his detectors to sell, without finishing, without quality, using poor quality components, and without electronic and technical innovations, he doesn't even have an oscilloscope to check the frequencies of the detectors he builds, he takes advantage of the name he has earned over the years, and today he builds his detectors with the intent of making money from sales.
I respect and have a great admiration for these two men who created and invented detectors that today bring us here, trying to copy and do better. We were awakened to study, to innovate and to try to build our long-distance detectors.
I am grateful to these two great men who I consider the inventors of long-distance detection and its derivations, without them I would not have created my detectors that I have today.
To Douglas,
I thank you for your words, the AG-90 detector and other detectors I have is the example I posted above, they remain thanks to Alonso and Esteban, they were and are my idols and reference in long distance detectors.


To Geo,
I know all of Paraguay, most of the people live with few resources, they are very kind and welcoming people, at least with the Brazilians, and I have many friends there, and they are very fond of treasure hunts.
I believe that because of the few resources they have is that we no longer see Paraguayans on the forums, I would have no other explanation for that.
But I can assure you that there are many treasure hunters in that country.
Until a few years ago there was no metal detector store in Paraguay, and as I had good contact with Whites Electronics people, I put a Brazilian friend as a representative in Paraguay, selling Whites detectors, and he opened a store in the region metropolitan capital, incidentally in the same city as Alonso, today he works with all brands of detectors expanding and publicizing the hobby of treasure hunts in Paraguay.

I apologize to everyone for my long texts, is that I do not know how to express myself and speak in a few words .... kkkk ...

Greetings to all friend!

[FrancoItaly]

I totally agree with you, I have always believed in Esteban, despite some criticism, without him there would be no more this forum and even functioning lrls. I hope that the affection of us "elders" of the forum can bring him some relief.

[gaucho1961]

Originally Posted by FrancoItaly

I totally agree with you, I have always believed in Esteban, despite some criticism, without him there would be no more this forum and even functioning lrls. I hope that the affection of us "elders" of the forum can bring him some relief.

Good afternoon,
Yes Franco, we cannot deny how much we learned from them, and how many doubts we solved based on Esteban's posts, giving us motivation to create and invent, and we owe them part of our knowledge and the successes achieved.
We have much to thank these two people who brought us and bring us so many joys and achievements, are the motivators of everyone to move forward creating and developing our humble long-distance detectors.
I feel a great sadness for Esteban, and this irony of destiny, to take away his ability to see and take the pleasure of doing what he liked most.
Life is a bit ungrateful for some ...
But nobody is free of what life has in store for us in the future, so we will enjoy it, share our experiences and achievements with friends, and at the same time, carrying forward everything that Alonso and Esteban taught us and left us with legacy, both in the knowledge, as well as the generosity of helping with the detection electronics, just as Esteban did here on the forum.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by gaucho1961

Good evening everyone!



The infrared he uses on the yellow pistol is a 3-pin model mentioned in another post. I have a friend who has another model that Alonso manufactures in Paraguay. It's a handmade detector, but it works, because he went out to test the detector and the detector located an old rusty bucket buried some 25 meters away in the middle of some trees and vegetation. He paid $ 2,200 for the detector, but wants to sell for the same amount he paid, the detector is here with me, works with two 9v batteries in series. The system is very interesting, there are 5 PCBs, it is two detectors in one, and through a selector switch it is changed to one or the other detector, for long distance and short distance, and one of the detection plates is made by it , and another one is made by Mineoro, but it was crossed out to try to erase the name and model of this PCB. According to my friend who bought directly with Alonso, he said that this detector is the same as the FG-90, although I didn't see much similarity because it is all analog and does not have ATMEGA in the circuit. In this model, Alonso did not use any IR system, it is only a detection system and nothing else.

Hello Gaucho.
Do you have any photos from inside of this lrl???

[gaucho1961]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hello Gaucho.
Do you have any photos from inside of this lrl???

Goodnight,
Geo, I have some photos but I'm asking permission from the owner of the detector to disclose, I always try to respect when they ask me for secrecy and discretion, I always acted like that.
If he authorizes me I will put pictures of him without problems here ok?

[Geo]

Hello Gaucho.
No problem, i wait...
I am not interesting for the schematic of it but only to see what Alonso use...
I know the most schematics of Alonso and now i want to see what he put inside this plastic box. Maybe he has a pcb from PDC210 and some other handmade pcbs.....

[kostas87]

My PD like Esteban optical and alonso look.
works with the IR optical system and With metal detector near distance LRL..in summer work whit the metal detector near locketor.
the phenomenon is intense in the dry climate and the opticalin lower posision , the optics have signals from various things from sun in the summer ... In the winter I work with the IR optical system more ,because the humidity covers the phenomenon and does not detect it from the coils, and finally if i find a signal from near distance I just activate the metal detector to find the metal in the soil. when the climate is not too hot or too cold, i think they can work together for a longer distance ..
From difrent shematic in the forum and from friends.

[Geo]

Hi Kostas.
Good T.H....

[abdou2014]

nice job Costas, I also have several IR prototypes, I have a passive model (electric + IR) like the yellow pd, and I have a pure IR prototype with two modes, detection amplitude and frequency, very new and very promising.

[liudengyuand]

good