H3Tec Off-Topic Discussions - moved from H3Tec Challenge

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Good morning J-player: You posted -->I thought the inventor was highly educated in a real long list of sciences. A grounded conductor cannot send out a signal!
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May I suggest checking on Tesla's ground based system for global cumunication.
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You also posted-->In fact, a 5 volt audio signal does not have enough power to broadcast into the air to become detectable more than a few inches
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Using just what to measure it by? If you can't hear it or measure it with conventional devices that does not mean that it no longer exists, or that it has not continued on to infinity, admitedly getting weaker, but never-the-less still existing.

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

Good morning J-player: You posted -->I thought the inventor was highly educated in a real long list of sciences. A grounded conductor cannot send out a signal!
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May I suggest checking on Tesla's ground based system for global cumunication.
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You also posted-->In fact, a 5 volt audio signal does not have enough power to broadcast into the air to become detectable more than a few inches
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Using just what to measure it by? If you can't hear it or measure it with conventional devices that does not mean that it no longer exists, or that it has not continued on to infinity, admitedly getting weaker, but never-the-less still existing.

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Tesla did not send a 5v signal from a processor to the ground. He sent high voltage and high current signals into the ground by means of a conductor that was embedded in the ground. I maintain no part of the circuit inside the H3Tec has enough power or voltage to be detected with any instrument you can supply more than a few inches in the air or ground, and no part of the H3Tec low voltage/low power circuit is embedded into the ground as Tesla's high power transmitters were.

I also maintain there is no part of the circuit in the H3Tec which has enough power to cause the metal rods to mechanically swing by means of connecting a single wire to either of the rods, whether the wire is connected to the signal or to the ground. Nor is there any mechanism installed in the H3Tec dowsing rods to cause a mechanical movement of these rods. The operator must cause these rods to move using his muscles along with the combined force of gravity.

Can you prove me wrong?
Or can you only ask irrelevant questions with intent to obfuscate the actual challenge being posed to H3Tec in this thread?


Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Tesla did not send a 5v signal from a processor to the ground. He sent high voltage and high current signals into the ground by means of a conductor that was embedded in the ground. I maintain no part of the circuit inside the H3Tec has enough power or voltage to be detected with any instrument you can supply more than a few inches in the air or ground, and no part of the H3Tec low voltage/low power circuit is embedded into the ground as Tesla's high power transmitters were.

I also maintain there is no part of the circuit in the H3Tec which has enough power to cause the metal rods to mechanically swing by means of connecting a single wire to either of the rods, whether the wire is connected to the signal or to the ground. Nor is there any mechanism installed in the H3Tec dowsing rods to cause a mechanical movement of these rods. The operator must cause these rods to move using his muscles along with the combined force of gravity.

Can you prove me wrong?
Or can you only ask irrelevant questions with intent to obfuscate the actual challenge being posed to H3Tec in this thread?


Best wishes,
J_P

Oh my.. what a bunch of BS.
Just regret have wasted so much time here in the past...

Hey my skepthic friend...

What is gravity?

Tayopa, just watch his answer.
Usted entiende porque nuestro amigo es tan difÃ*cil de entender las cositas simples.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

Oh my.. what a bunch of BS.
Just regret have wasted so much time here in the past...

Hey my skepthic friend...

What is gravity?

Tayopa, just watch his answer.
Usted entiende porque nuestro amigo es tan difÃ*cil de entender las cositas simples.

What?
Another stupid question that was already answered?

Gravity is one of two forces which causes the H3Tec dowsing rods to move (scroll up and read). Do forum trolls have difficulty understanding what is written, or is the problem with reading?

Since we are talking to the esteemed scientist, Dr. hung, perhaps you can tell more of your facts concerning the substance that gold DNA produces to coat the metal's surface to fight against threats of rust and oxidation?
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=41


Best wishes,
J_P

P.S. Do you get the feeling this post and a couple above it are headed for the H3Tec Discussion thread?

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Good morning again J-Player: never heard of SIR JAGADISH CHANDRA BOSE ?? go to google and post his name.

He is the father of modern raido and won Knighthood for his studies in plant response and metal fatigue. He showed that the differenc between living objects as we preceive them, and inanamate objects, such as the metals, is decreasing rapidly as we learn more.

Who knows, there 'may' just BE a metal DNA. snicker

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

Good morning again J-Player: never heard of SIR JAGADISH CHANDRA BOSE ?? go to google and post his name.

He is the father of modern raido and won Knighthood for his studies in plant response and metal fatigue. He showed that the differenc between living objects as we preceive them, and inanamate objects, such as the metals, is decreasing rapidly as we learn more.

Who knows, there 'may' just BE a metal DNA. snicker

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

A metal DNA?
Cool..!
Actually I have been waiting for a couple of years for Dr. hung to tell us more about his knowledge of gold DNA. After all, he is the first who first released this extraordinary new breakthrough in the Geotech forums.
Do you suppose he is the discoverer of gold DNA? Or was it one of his associates who helps debunker the big mouths?

Who knows?
Dr. hung never told the story of how he came to know that gold DNA produces this substance. I still can't figure out how a molten metal can solidify and crystallize, then produce a long-chained organic acid which reproduces itself, and this organic acid causes another substance to form which coats it's surface to prevent rust and oxidation.

I sure would like to get a hold of some of this substance. I know some people who are ready to manufacture it in large quantities to be used for weather protection in automobiles, and steel structures.
Can you imagine what the folks who produce silver polish would say if they found out there is a substance to coat metals that prevents rust and oxidation?
** CONSPIRACY WARNING ** Do you think they would take measures to bury this substance? Would we see gold DNA laboratories being sabotaged by the makers of silver polish? Maybe this is the reason Dr. hung will not say more about gold DNA or the rust/oxidation fighting substance it produces. Is Dr. hung in fear of his life?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

HI J-Player: you posted -->I still can't figure out how a molten metal can solidify and crystallize, then produce a long-chained organic acid which reproduces itself.
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why does it have to be an organic acid? What programs a metal in the first place?

Side thingy, but the fatigue curve of zinc mimics the humann curve exactly.

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Qiaozhi]

Please do not pollute the H3Tec Challenge thread with discussions of Tesla, references to BS, or Gold DNA. If you must post off-topic nonsense concerning H3Tec, then please do it here.

Note: I will not move any more off-topic posts from the H3Tec Challenge thread. I have now done this 3 times. Any further nonsense posts will simply be deleted.

And ... by the way ... Merry Christmas!

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

HI J-Player: you posted -->I still can't figure out how a molten metal can solidify and crystallize, then produce a long-chained organic acid which reproduces itself.
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why does it have to be an organic acid? What programs a metal in the first place?

Side thingy, but the fatigue curve of zinc mimics the humann curve exactly.

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Why does it have to be an organic acid?
Well, I suppose it has to be an organic acid because this is what DNA is defined to be.
DNA is deoxyribonucleic acid.
And deoxyribonucleic acid is an organic acid, being carbon based, is naturally produced from a living organism... such as gold (need more info from Dr. hung about this).

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Originally Posted by J_Player

What?
Another stupid question that was already answered?

Gravity is one of two forces which causes the H3Tec dowsing rods to move

Best wishes,
J_P

He,he,he.
No, this is not the definition of gravity.

Try again. What is gravity?

Hurry up while I'm still around.

PS. By the time you figure about Gold's DNA, my still unborn grandson will be married.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

He,he,he.
No, this is not the definition of gravity.

Try again. What is gravity?

Hurry up while I'm still around.

PS. By the time you figure about Gold's DNA, my still unborn grandson will be married.

Gravity is quite well documented with a tons of information available to anyone who wants to read it.
Any stupid idea that Myron Evans has a better idea about gravity or how to create energy from a vaccum is really idiotic.
Especially idiotic when you consider all the real scientists who call him a quack, and when you consider all attempts to build apparatus to work using his theories never produced anything useful.
So maybe you got a contrary definition of gravity that does not follow the conventional description that is so well documented?


Gold DNA?

Ummm...
I already figured it out.
Gold DNA was a term coined by Damasio et. al. and published in a place where you quickly accepted it to be a fact.
After some discussion with Damasio, you added your own embellishments and decided to republish this as HungScience in the Geotech forum.
But then, you never told the truth about your source of this false information... you simply said it is part of a private study that you don't want to talk about.

I guess this is what makes a great scientist... brilliant research in Damasio's scribblings to find answers that fit the occasion.
And, of course... a bunker to debunker from.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by J_Player

After some discussion with Damasio, you added your own embellishments and decided to republish this as HungScience in the Geotech forum.
But then, you never told the truth about your source of this false information... you simply said it is part of a private study that you don't want to talk about.

Einstein is quoted as saying "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide one's sources".
Perhaps Hung has learned something from a real scientist.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Einstein is quoted as saying "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide one's sources".
Perhaps Hung has learned something from a real scientist.

No...
Dr. hung says Einstein had the wrong idea. Myron Evans had the right idea.

Just as sure as gold has DNA, Myron evans can produce energy from a vaccum. Believe it or shove it!




Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Afternoon J-Player. What would be it's equivelent in metal? Starting from zero, what would be the progression from the original deposition to the latest?

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

allo again J-Player: you posted-->Myron evans can produce energy from a vaccum. Believe it or shove it!
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Create actual energy, questionable but to produce a workabe device from a vaccum, quite possible, in fact we are already loaded with them.

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist":.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

Afternoon J-Player. What would be it's equivelent in metal? Starting from zero, what would be the progression from the original deposition to the latest?

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Metal has no equivalent of organic acids. Metals generally are arranged in lattices, and do not form living cells that reproduce by dividing into two cells.
Nor do metals form acidic substances based on carbon, or substances that coat their surface to protect them from rust and oxidation.

According to the best science available, rust and oxidation is a natural process caused by a chemical reaction between oxygen or other chemical which tends to corrode a metal.
There has never been any metal known to have DNA or other organic acids that produce any anti-oxidizing substance which coats it's surface.

Can you show some examples to the contrary?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Metals generally are arranged in lattices,-- agreed, so?

and do not form living cells that reproduce by dividing into two cells. -- Not what we clasify as living cells, but???

Nor do metals form acidic substances based on carbon -- agreed, but then much of microbial life isn't either.

Why this fixation of making them conform to life reproduction as we presently visualize it..

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist":.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

Metals generally are arranged in lattices,-- agreed, so?

and do not form living cells that reproduce by dividing into two cells. -- Not what we clasify as living cells, but???

Nor do metals form acidic substances based on carbon -- agreed, but then much of microbial life isn't either.

Why this fixation of making them conform to life reproduction as we presently visualize it..

Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to Live, not live to exist":.

There is no fixation other than the one Dr. hung established when he made a statement that Gold DNA produces a substance. This is a fixed statement which says DNA produced a substance. And as we know, DNA is an organic acid which is capable of causing reproduction as well as causing other organic substances to be produced. DNA is in fact a component of living organisms which produce a variety of substances. Do you begin to understand that a DNA molecule must conform to the life form it grew from? That it cannot simply transmute itself from a carbon based molecule into a metal lattice that does not have the necessary elements arranged as needed? Do you understand that a typical metal lattice is not alive as a cell where a DNA molecule lives and determines reproduction?

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Gravity is quite well documented with a tons of information available to anyone who wants to read it.
Any stupid idea that Myron Evans has a better idea about gravity or how to create energy from a vaccum is really idiotic.
Especially idiotic when you consider all the real scientists who call him a quack, and when you consider all attempts to build apparatus to work using his theories never produced anything useful.
So maybe you got a contrary definition of gravity that does not follow the conventional description that is so well documented?

J_P

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by hung

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

I think a gravity wave just passed by and spilled all the gravitons I had in a bowl.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by hung

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

YIKES!!

I think hungs account has been compromised by his 2-year old thug nephew!

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

The fact is we all know what gravity is, and we know the definition can be found in books which define it such as dictionaries, encyclopedias, science textbooks, and from learning where it is taught in classes which teach the subject.

It seems to me you are the one who cannot understand how the force of gravity works.
Is it difficult for you to admit that the force of gravity effects any dowsing rod or LRL which has a dowsing rod attached?
Is it difficult for you to admit a dowsing rod can find the direction of the force of gravity with good precision when the user does not allow his arm muscles to cause it to point elsewhere?

I can pass a double blind test to find the direction of the force of gravity every time when using only a dowsing rod.
But when using a dowsing rod to find the location of a hidden object, I will fail the same as any person who claims he can dowse during a double blind test.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

good mornig, bk J-Player: I am curious on this fixation on carbon based dna? Remember this is used in just a narrow range of reproductive materiel.

Who is to say just how long, how, or if, shall we say, a metal needs to normally reproduce itself? 10 years? 1000? billions? Remember the Universe itself is thought to be a reproductive form, this is what we normally consider life, no?

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Hi again mi firdnd J_Player: You posted --> The fact is we all know what gravity is, and we know the definition can be found in books which define it such as dictionaries, encyclopedias, science textbooks, and from learning where it is taught in classes which teach the subject.
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They now are not too sure whether it is an attractive, repulsive or a combination force.
Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[goldfinder]

Originally Posted by hung

Expected.
You cannot provide not even the two major schools of thought for different definitions of gravity, even less from a third one which explains the things the standard model cannot.
And no, this has nothing to do with Dr. Evans, tough he could smash you scientifically as he would do to an insect considering his achievements in science.

You may remain wondering what gravity is.
Sorry, I can't even hint to proceed talking to you any further about some matters if you cannot comprehend what gravity is in the first place. Impossible.

Maybe you could think of gravity as the force which keeps the 'skepthics' stuck in the mud and avoids them to reach the sublimated stages, who knows?
But for now one, please don't say the stupidity that an LRL moves due to gravity as you do not know what this last one means.

When there is a gradient in the Electric Field then mass will move and accelerated in that field.

Dr. Hung - I hope this satisfies your wanting to know what gravity is. If you have and math expertise (at least calculus) check out Paul Stowe and Dr. Barry Mingst and gravity in google. They derive this quite nicely.

Goldfinder