IP trace and other methods

[peroon]

I am using two nicks on this forum. It is not a secret at all. I have my reasons for that.
But what provoked me to start this thread is claim of another member in another thread, saying is easy to dug my two nicks cose those appearing under same IP address. Well..that's funny! If i dont want those to be tied to same IP address than i have pretty easy task - just to switch OFF and than after to switch ON my router. Each time i do that, my Huawei router occupies new and different IP address. Piece of cake. That's how i skip rapidshare counters easilly, each time i want to download something from there.
My IP address is therefore dynamic. Local provider, on other hand, have static IP address, so it is easy to trace it.
So... knowing this i do not pay attention or any effort to hide that i am using 2 nicks here. I do not switch off my router each time i am about to log in under different nick. Why should i do that? Not a secret and also have nothing to hide!
But... Administrator here is able to trace me even when i change my IP adress and log under another nick! How!?
Ha,ha,ha! Of course i do know how...but i wont tell ya! I can only say; there are methods to remotely read some unique data from your system. For example it could be your hard disk serial...or your system serial...or some other unique data...
Best way to fool this method is use of two pc's and to switch off router each time, connect it to another pc and than switch it on to take different IP.
I just want to provoke new,interesting debate on this subject. And eventually see and hear some other solutions of how to accuratelly trace same user despite his dynamic IP address. Cose, there are several ways to do that, i only know one of those...

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by peroon

My IP address is therefore dynamic. Local provider, on other hand, have static IP address, so it is easy to trace it.

...But... Administrator here is able to trace me even when i change my IP adress and log under another nick! How!?
Ha,ha,ha! Of course i do know how...but i wont tell ya! I can only say; there are methods to remotely read some unique data from your system. For example it could be your hard disk serial...or your system serial...or some other unique data...

There are easier ways than that, even when using ordinary forum software tools. But who cares?

Nobody cares if you use two nicks as long as you are not causing problems in the forum.

Best wishes,
J_P

[homefire]

Cookies!


http://www.abika.com/Reports/verifyemail.htm

[peroon]

Yes, among other things cookies too.
But what if cookies were blocked?
There must be other ways too...

[peroon]

Example of one cookie:

bblastvisit
1246641981
www.geotech1.com/
1536
3664419968
30087892
1688178768
30014467
*
bblastactivity
0
www.geotech1.com/
1536
3814419968
30087892
1836488768
30014467
*

[Max]

Originally Posted by peroon

Yes, among other things cookies too.
But what if cookies were blocked?
There must be other ways too...

what are you doing now ???

If cookies are blocked there's anotehr very easy way:

MAC address

Each ethernet based device has one , unique number of that... and there are 2^48 possible combinations...

(original MAC-48 is made of 48 bits...)

Now... if you have an ethernet stuff... or anyway a NIC (network interface card) like wireless stuff or bluetooth (also but not only) you could be traced down even if IP address is different.

That's cause the NIC level packets (medium interface layer in OSI pile) are below IP level (network layer) and thus encapsulated inside IP packet... so an IP packet always contains MAC informations....

Now... there are ways to avoid that... or well... hide you more efficiently but sometimes it's rather simple buying another NIC (e.g. another router in your case...) and use that.

Said that... if "someone" wanna really find you he will!

But don't let me tell you who this someone could be...

Kind regards,
Max

[peroon]

Interesting stuff.....other words; real scab here is my router, not pc!? Aint not such problem, that can't be solved with 5kg hammer! Especially tiny Huawei i have!
Or to flash router's prom frequently !!!? Ahahahahahah!
Yes you are right; those who are supposed to find me easy - those will found me easy. Recently my exact home place was marked at Google Earth!
No need to use IP or any other approach...

[Qiaozhi]

Actually the answer is very simple.

The forum software records all IP addresses used, and it is then very easy to link multiple IPs to one user, or even to discover other users using the same IP. There is no mystery here.

That's why (after only one post) I was able to connect Peroon's 2 nicks. There are also other users here with more than one nick, but as long as they don't cause a problem then it's ok. There are even some users here with multiple nicks which they think I don't know about!

This is not the only method available to Admin. As they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Big brother is watching...

[peroon]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Actually the answer is very simple.

The forum software records all IP addresses used, and it is then very easy to link multiple IPs to one user, or even to discover other users using the same IP. There is no mystery here.

That's why (after only one post) I was able to connect Peroon's 2 nicks. There are also other users here with more than one nick, but as long as they don't cause a problem then it's ok. There are even some users here with multiple nicks which they think I don't know about!

This is not the only method available to Admin. As they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Big brother is watching...

Don't mess with a cat......in a sack!

Interesting and simple method you described there. I thought it was much more complicated!
If it was on my way; i would remotely read hard disk ID bytes, or router ID or something simillar....
But than again, for what? Not a big deal after all.
I can understand need for multiplied nicks. Me personally, i would like to dissociate one part of my character here from another. One part is dealing mostly with tech stuff closely related to VLF and PI metal detectors. Other part can deal with everything else on this forum. This is advantage and not drawback, also shows how rich this forum turned to be. Many interesting, yet much different subjects. Also i dont want to be annoying to other members showing myself everywhere with same nick, same avatar, same font....
Already got few remarks on my way of posting here recently. So.... 2 nicks to have is not sin at all. Of course, as long as no harm, from those, done here.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Actually the answer is very simple.

The forum software records all IP addresses used, and it is then very easy to link multiple IPs to one user, or even to discover other users using the same IP. There is no mystery here.

That's why (after only one post) I was able to connect Peroon's 2 nicks. There are also other users here with more than one nick, but as long as they don't cause a problem then it's ok. There are even some users here with multiple nicks which they think I don't know about!

This is not the only method available to Admin. As they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Big brother is watching...

Hmmm... seems intriguing...

You forget to mention that you have full access to forums logs...
details are important....

interesting...seems a spy story now...
How many nicks I have and how many IPs !?

cause I really forget about "how many" I have!

is that easy skin the cats ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by peroon

Don't mess with a cat......in a sack!

Interesting and simple method you described there. I thought it was much more complicated!
If it was on my way; i would remotely read hard disk ID bytes, or router ID or something simillar....
But than again, for what? Not a big deal after all.
I can understand need for multiplied nicks. Me personally, i would like to dissociate one part of my character here from another. One part is dealing mostly with tech stuff closely related to VLF and PI metal detectors. Other part can deal with everything else on this forum. This is advantage and not drawback, also shows how rich this forum turned to be. Many interesting, yet much different subjects. Also i dont want to be annoying to other members showing myself everywhere with same nick, same avatar, same font....
Already got few remarks on my way of posting here recently. So.... 2 nicks to have is not sin at all. Of course, as long as no harm, from those, done here.

To be honest, most of the forum controls are there to prevent spammers from entering the system, and to enable removal of them, and their posts, as easily as possible. We can also ban their IPs and email addresses, and disable their logins. This is all done to enable our members to have a more pleasant experience when visiting Geotech. The intention is not to act as forum police. In fact, the rules here are very relaxed compared to other forums; although occasionally there has to be a reminder of the rules. Incidently, no members have managed to get themselves banned so far this year, except those who have posted blatant spam.

Hopefully you have noticed that some recent changes, to prevent posting by unregistered users, has made a dramatic difference to the amount of spam being posted. Most spammers cannot be bothered to register, as it must be done by a human being, and their posts are usually removed within minutes, even before another member can click the "report this post" icon.

All we ask is that you follow these simple guidelines from DarthCarl:

• Be polite. Write messages as if you are standing in front of someone talking to them.
• Criticism should be relevant and constructive. If you disagree with something, state your case, and move on.
• Don't post copyrighted material
• I also ask that posts be written in English to maximize participation. If English is not your native language, just do the best you can.

[peroon]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

To be honest, most of the forum controls are there to prevent spammers from entering the system, and to enable removal of them, and their posts, as easily as possible. We can also ban their IPs and email addresses, and disable their logins. This is all done to enable our members to have a more pleasant experience when visiting Geotech. The intention is not to act as forum police. In fact, the rules here are very relaxed compared to other forums; although occasionally there has to be a reminder of the rules. Incidently, no members have managed to get themselves banned so far this year, except those who have posted blatant spam.

Hopefully you have noticed that some recent changes, to prevent posting by unregistered users, has made a dramatic difference to the amount of spam being posted. Most spammers cannot be bothered to register, as it must be done by a human being, and their posts are usually removed within minutes, even before another member can click the "report this post" icon.

All we ask is that you follow these simple guidelines from DarthCarl:

• Be polite. Write messages as if you are standing in front of someone talking to them.
• Criticism should be relevant and constructive. If you disagree with something, state your case, and move on.
• Don't post copyrighted material
• I also ask that posts be written in English to maximize participation. If English is not your native language, just do the best you can.

I agree 100%. I can only admire to administrators patience, nervs and best democracy i ever seen so far. You are on very right track! Just keep it that way! My tributes to this place and administrators!

[kt315]

peroon is ivconic? he writes like ivconic manner. he bravely attacks me also in the manner.
what is his real name? can anybody give me link on Serbian forum I could been meet peroon?

[Max]

Originally Posted by kt315

peroon is ivconic? he writes like ivconic manner. he bravely attacks me also in the manner.
what is his real name? can anybody give me link on Serbian forum I could been meet peroon?

KT315...

you endly discovered hot water, I see!

Not that I'm saying peroon = ivconic ...

Did I ???

Kind regards,
Max

[peroon]

Originally Posted by kt315

peroon is ivconic? he writes like ivconic manner. he bravely attacks me also in the manner.
what is his real name? can anybody give me link on Serbian forum I could been meet peroon?

I am not attacking you kt315. Never. I am just reacting on your ocassional rude remarks and strange mockery against everything. Take back to the past and analyze all of our argues and debates. You will find that each time you started first. I never started first to attack and mock nobody. Every time i was attacked somehow and than reacted and answered in same manner. And yes...ivconic and me are sharing the very same skin. You got that right! And for what reason? Why two nicks here? I will explain why; because i was suspected (irony and assumptions) to post more frequently since Carl proclaimed contest. There were remarks on my account reffering my sudden change of posting style; meaning my recent posts are short and numerous - oposite than in the past (i was suspected that acting like that i am runing my posts counter faster). That affected my feelings much and i decided to start another nick - peroon, and to use it as long as contest last. Once contest ends i will slowly stop to use peroon nick. However, subjects and questions which are closelly tied to ivconic nick must be respected and answered under ivconic nick. That's why am i posting now under both nicks. Soon i will stop with peroon. Contest should be ended by now? It was said it will end at jully 24. Yet no news from Carl? Anyway... no harm done from my 2 nicks, hopefully. Soon, peroon will disappear.
Anyway....regards to you kt315, i dont have bad feelings upon you.

[Qiaozhi]

I think that sometimes misunderstandings occur because people are communicating in English which is often not their first language. That's why you should also use the emoticons. You see, now I am happy, and now I am sad. But I can also be very angry or just sarcastic.

But above all ... just stay cool.

[peroon]

These are my favorites -

[Max]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

I think that sometimes misunderstandings occur because people are communicating in English which is often not their first language. That's why you should also use the emoticons. You see, now I am happy, and now I am sad. But I can also be very angry or just sarcastic.

But above all ... just stay cool.

I refuse to use that dang stupid... emoticons...

well I can't.

Kind regards,
Max