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In the past few decades, there are those who have added do-nothing electronic components to their dowsing wands, in the hope of cashing in on big profits from those gullible enough to believe some physical or scientific process was going on. IN TRUTH!!! No amount of do-nothing electronics can negate the fact that the heart of the contraption still employs plain old "dowsing", and as such will ALWAYS produce results that are like "guessing".
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JUst keep repeating it to yourself and you will believe it. I've said it before that science does not understand what they can't measure and they don't have a clue about the light of consciousness. They know the observer influences the experiment, but that's about all they know. Christopher Hills was definitely the most knowledgable person on this subject. His book "Supersensonics" is a masterpeice on the subject. That guy was a mega genius. Most people cannot even understand what he says. I had to read it at least five times and I still don't get it all. He explains about the scientists who dared to consider the subject and they were all banished by their peers, their careers destroyed.
Hills studied yoga in India and became the president of the World Yoda Association. Anyone who is so arrogant to think they can learn to dowse in twenty minutes is living in self-deception. They will never learn to dowse with that attitude. Like Hills and Fred Stewart say, learning to become an accomplished dowser takes fifteen plus years of living it. And that's with an experienced teacher. Most people are not ready to accept what is needed to learn. The negative attitude is a sure way to destroy your chances of success. As much as I have talkd about dowing lately, I don't use it that much. It is stressful on the body. A frequency transmitter is a lot easier to learn but there are some problems. Things like mineralization can be nearly impossible to deal with. An expert dowser does not need a rod. Most people can learn to feel the psychic twinge, the electricity in the palm of their hand. The skin on the palm is an area with many nerve endings. The acupuncture points act as a wave guide for the energy. Some top dowsers do not even need to feel the electricity in their skin. You can feel this energy when you walk through a signal line from a frequency generator depending on the atmospheric conditions. I discovered it myself that air pressure has an effect on negative ions which makes for good locating conditions. Then I read the same thing and that ions facilitate the energy to travel through the air. I also suspect that some failed dowsers have never dowsed except on a full stomach. They eat then go attempt to dowse. This is a sure way to get bad results. You just can't feel it.It's sort of like trying to make a telephone call on a busy line. And many times I find myself daydreaming or thinking about something other than the target. This is totally unacceptable. |
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Very interesting what you said about the frequency transmiter Mike.
Can you please go into a more detailed explanation about that? I understood that even a profesional dowser when is treasure hunting prefers using a frequency transmiter.Can you please explain why they find it easier that way? Do they find the exact spot of the target much easier? Does their energy drain slower so they can dowse for more? Is the results more secure or accurate? My self always thought that when dowsing whith the aid of a frequency generator I have more possibilities getting fooled by a rusty iron piece going there instead of going where the gold is as we set the freq. generator. I agree Theseus that there are people out there selling long range devices that do nothing else than dowsing.But this happens everywhere and in every subject so it doesn't say anything to me if somebody tries to get rich through this. It is not all priests right anyway. Last edited by g-sani; 09-06-2008 at 02:23 PM. Reason: orthography |
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Two more necessary conditions for the succesfull dowser:50 years of training and empty stomach.
To be amended to the already very long list. I wonder if this is mentioned when selling L-rods. |
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Isn't this the mantra of the dowser? The skeptics do not need to "believe", we just look at the results of the double-blind tests, and it is clear that dowsing is only as accurate as guessing.
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Maybe you lick some hallucinogenic toad just before hitting on keys! I think you need a good clinic Mike! Like Paris Hilton! Kind regards, Max
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If you think dowsing and an ideomotor response are not involved when you use a frequency transmitter --please explain what you think it is that causes your L-rod(s) to swing, lock or indicate? Please be specific when explaining the forces or fields involved.
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May the force be with you.
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G-sani, I'm no expert on why a frequency generator works. I'm no dowsing expert, either. The only way I can put it is I rely on the frequency generator to do most of the work for me. It's just less emotional strain. It is easier for me to relax. And the target response is usually much better. Yes, you are going to get some false targets.
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While I am skeptical when it comes to dowsing, I know that years and years of meditation can produce some remarkable results. If you have never seen the following documentary:
http://www.amazon.com/Ring-Fire-Indo...ref=pd_sim_b_1 you owe it to yourself to watch it. The episode where the doctor sets fire to the newspaper using his palm is worth watching. |
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This thread was getting a little off track but thanks to Mike(Mont) and others like Dell Winders, we are back on track now and all now understand how to dowse. I was really impressed with the wisdom of the reply
"may the force be with you". Yoga?, maybe it is Yoda and Puke Skydowser- this one maybe ate too much before going out? Now I am going to get into the right frame of mind to dowse. Beam me up Scotty! |
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The newspaper trick comes after about 2mins 30secs. |
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And - it is a trick.
Watch this one, where Derren Brown demonstrates the 1-inch punch ... without touching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBXXA5xhcQ0 It's amazing what tricks the mind can play. And while we're at it - this one's great fun to watch -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvA0...eature=related |
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I learned to dowse in 1981. No rods. The unit had a GSR hooked to a supposedly resonating circuit and antenna. Only thing was the circuit was not even hooked up. I rewired it so the pot's actually did something in line with a variable capacitor and the antenna (no power source). The antenna was attached to the black box and you turned it 360 degrees until the GSR meter made what I called a "fish strike" .The meter would make a quick, sharp but small deflection for a good hit. I really did get the Eureka sensation when on line. Actually I imagined the antenna was a laser beam scanning the area. I find dowsing very draining on my energy. Ten or fiftenn minutes maximum.
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The 2 links you posted are indeed probably tricks, but I don't think the doctor in Indonesian is a phony. Just my opinion. Again, I am no fan of dowsing and I believe that all of the LRL's that I have seen are a scam. |
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That stuff will kill you! Stop right now!
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And yes - the two links I posted are tricks. Derren Brown is a skeptic of paranormal matters, and freely admits that he has no psychic powers. It's a combination of psychology, magic, misdirection and showmanship. Even when he admits that the stuff he does is a trick, some people just don't believe him. That's how much they really want to believe. Amazing! |
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You're wrong! I know a couple of girls that will set on fire anything... with a little touch! But maybe this is too off-topic here! Kind regards, Max
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Please PM me their details...
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Everytime i see a similar demonstration , i feel frustrated to see that no real scientific examination has been made to the "phenomenon." |
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The student is already mentally prepared to believe the punch will happen. When the punch is done from behind, there are audible clues before the "punch" is made. Either clothes rustling, or the sound of breathing. Then it's simply up to the mind to take over.
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Is this how dowsing and frequency generators work too? After hours of meditating, are there psychic clues that tell the dowser/LRL-user which direction the signal line is shooting from? May the farce be with you. Best wishes, J_P |
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