PDK LRL

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

This is unstable because your BFO is unstable, but with a very good BFO you can do more.

Ok,Esteban,during this week i ask to my friend the schematic.
Realy,no need closed forum for this one

But it works with the phenomena...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Ok,Esteban,during this week i ask to my friend the schematic.
Realy,no need closed forum for this one

But it works with the phenomena...

Of course, no deppend of me.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Of course, no deppend of me.

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...

Yes, but I don't want publish Alonso's devices by myself.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Morgan

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Morgan

I can see in some of photos you put in this forum,that Alonso construct very similar device ,but only in box&Antenna design,i think...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Attachment 6748

You can see,very similar design with Alonso device.
But can you tell me how it works this Yellow LRL.? Did you already try in field tests? It as some ferrite inside?

Regards

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Attachment 6749

Attachment 6750
You can see,very similar design with Alonso device.
But can you tell me how it works this Yellow LRL.? Did you already try in field tests? It as some ferrite inside?

Regards

No comment!!!

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

No comment!!!

No comment ?!!

You mean this Alonso LRL its a CRAP ???

Or maybe you dont want to talk about it.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Esteban
This LRL with large antenna react only in big(not less than 10x10cm) hig conductive targets buried long time ago,a few meters distance. It works with BFO oscilator + ions detector.I want to put this for better reaction of small objects.
I dont have probleme to put schematic of this LRL here in the forum,no need closed forum for this,if you or others want i can put,for better understanding of LRL and the Phenomena of the eletromagnetic fields.
This device react strongly to the electrostatic energies.

RegardsAttachment 6746

Hi Morgan,

Very interesting. This is exactly the type of LRL circuit that I have asked many times to be posted here, but there is always some excuse given, and the circuit never appears. If this device is claimed to detect the elusive (and scientifically unproven) emanations from longtime buried non-ferrous targets, then post the schematic for everyone to see. We have never asked for your "latest and greatest" design, just a simple proof-of-concept.

I await with baited breath...

[Max]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Hi Morgan,

Very interesting. This is exactly the type of LRL circuit that I have asked many times to be posted here, but there is always some excuse given, and the circuit never appears. If this device is claimed to detect the elusive (and scientifically unproven) emanations from longtime buried non-ferrous targets, then post the schematic for everyone to see. We have never asked for your "latest and greatest" design, just a simple proof-of-concept.

I await with baited breath...

like me too... when using more powerful TX oscillator... otherwise the MD sound...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

No comment ?!!

You mean this Alonso LRL its a CRAP ???

Or maybe you dont want to talk about it.

NO!!! No comment about details of his schematics!!!

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Max

like me too... when using more powerful TX oscillator... otherwise the MD sound...

Ok,Max i promise to show wath is inside this LRL p00p box. It was made by one friend,he mixed the B.F.Oscilator with one Ionic /Electrostatic detector. We made some tests,and it works some meters distance but oonly with big objects(10x10cm minimum).
Of course it works as LRL,it get the phenomena but not good for small objects.
I like to put this things here. Maybe some genious see it and with some modifications make it much better...
Better you see and build if you want,but no need your p00p comments

regards

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Ok,Max i promise to show wath is inside this LRL p00p box. It was made by one friend,he mixed the B.F.Oscilator with one Ionic /Electrostatic detector. We made some tests,and it works some meters distance but oonly with big objects(10x10cm minimum).
Of course it works as LRL,it get the phenomena but not good for small objects.
I like to put this things here. Maybe some genious see it and with some modifications make it much better...
Better you see and build if you want,but no need your p00p comments

regards

But the real genius are the pioneers, not the modificators.

[Steve in MS]

I'd like to make a suggestion here and that is let's start a new thread for the schematics, whether here or under the schematic forum.
That way people could see it easier, maybe some to build to see how it turns out.
There is interest in this, who knows, maybe with mods and such there can be real progress and something everyone could benefit from.
Regards

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Esteban

But the real genius are the pioneers, not the modificators.

Not really.The genius will be the guy who make a good, reliably and proven working one.
The inventor will have prove that "his" invention actually works he will need to explain how it works...

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Steve in MS

I'd like to make a suggestion here and that is let's start a new thread for the schematics, whether here or under the schematic forum.
That way people could see it easier, maybe some to build to see how it turns out.
There is interest in this, who knows, maybe with mods and such there can be real progress and something everyone could benefit from.
Regards

If Morgan wants to start a new thread for this particular LRL, then it should remain in the Remote Sensing Forum. Otherwise things will get somewhat confused with LRL stuff in two different places.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Fred

Not really.The genius will be the guy who make a good, reliably and proven working one.
The inventor will have prove that "his" invention actually works he will need to explain how it works...

Hi Fred

Bad news for your PDK project. As you know i made a new Pistoldetektor using your PCB and shematic post on the forum,and after a lot of troubles,now its working BUT NOT AS LRL,i made a lot of tests outside in my field test and in other places without any LRL results near old buried metals. To make it useful to detect the phenomena i think maybe needs complete revision in the schematic.It seams also the Qiaozhi last schematic version as some mistake.
About Max schematic,there is one person in the forum who as made it,and it seams to work very good,but we dont have sure yet,he will inform more.

Regards

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

If Morgan wants to start a new thread for this particular LRL, then it should remain in the Remote Sensing Forum. Otherwise things will get somewhat confused with LRL stuff in two different places.

Hi

I already get the shematics from my friend,and all the information we need for this experimental LRL prototipe.I drawing the schematics with my letter to become more easy to read.
I go to put in Remote sensing threads the schematics and component list.
If someone decide to build it,just ask more questions.
I informe the box should be made of wood,and its not possible to use headphones,or device become erratic,due to the static energy generated by the movement of plastic materials,near the Antennas.
The person who made this device its not Electronic Engeneer,but fortunatlly this LRL detect the phenomenon of hig conductive metals buried long time in the ground,so i think with some help of EE´s and Esteban ,in the forum we can make better inprovments in the circuit.

Regards

Regards

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

Not really.The genius will be the guy who make a good, reliably and proven working one.
The inventor will have prove that "his" invention actually works he will need to explain how it works...

Maybe, but need his support, his basis.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Fred

Bad news for your PDK project. As you know i made a new Pistoldetektor using your PCB and shematic post on the forum,and after a lot of troubles,now its working BUT NOT AS LRL,i made a lot of tests outside in my field test and in other places without any LRL results near old buried metals. To make it useful to detect the phenomena i think maybe needs complete revision in the schematic.It seams also the Qiaozhi last schematic version as some mistake.
About Max schematic,there is one person in the forum who as made it,and it seams to work very good,but we dont have sure yet,he will inform more.

Regards

What??? Now, your pistoldetector doesn't work!!! If you have the right way, don't understand why do you fail.

[Esteban]

You can use fiberglass instead wood. Her a sample of absorptive pistol in fiberglass

[Fred]

Hey!
An old AM/FM radio inside!
cool.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Fred

Bad news for your PDK project. As you know i made a new Pistoldetektor using your PCB and shematic post on the forum,and after a lot of troubles,now its working BUT NOT AS LRL,i made a lot of tests outside in my field test and in other places without any LRL results near old buried metals. Regards

Well, this is consistent with what we told you before, same results as ours....
Hope can be improved.
Regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

Hey!
An old AM/FM radio inside!
cool.

Amplification stage of radio is cheap and low in consumption. The absorptive part is more complex. I only make reference about material of box. Amplificative stage of radio or tape recorder can be useful.


Regards

Esteban