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12-18-2007, 02:40 AM
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12-18-2007, 03:14 AM
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Because only small part of another ferrite has coil. In the first pistol (red of avatar) was 2 ferrites and coil only a portion of another ferrite. As Alonso has many variation and invention each day (he, he!!!) is difficult to know if there are important changes.
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12-18-2007, 03:29 AM
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I think that by adjusting the gap you are just adjusting the coil inductance,via the ferrite rod permeability ,resulting in tuning the oscillator or receiver to a precise frequency?. Fred.
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12-18-2007, 01:22 PM
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"Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"
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12-18-2007, 01:24 PM
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"Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"
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12-18-2007, 03:47 PM
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some of other minor demons..
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From Lesser Key of Solomon, Lemegeton - Goetia (Translated by Mathers)
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12-18-2007, 03:50 PM
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What i meant is those explanations were unclear , not logical .Like Hung´s. Why those LRL´s are such a secret?.IB or PI are no secret, detectors are patented and everything is fine,constructors sell thousands of them because their technology is TRUSTABLE and well known. Of course half a dozen guys are building their own (IB´s or PI´s) but what it is in comparaison with the quantities of detectors that could be sold if their reliability could be proven? Esteban, i dont understand your last comment.who has discredited what? Regards, Fred.
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12-18-2007, 06:13 PM
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Long post alert!
Perhaps we should review patents.
By patenting an idea. we do not make it secret. We release the secret to all the world to read about and understand. The patent registration is a document that shows all the world the details of what the inventor discovered, and grants the inventor the right to sue anyone who uses his patented idea for commercial profit without paying him for the right to use his idea. When we hear that a patented concept has been licensed, this means the holder of the patent has issued a license to someone else to use their patented idea. Licenses are usually issued with contracts that specify the licensee must pay a portion of their profits back to the person who registered the patent. Patents will grant legal rights to the inventor only in the jurisdiction where the patent is registered. ie: a Brazilian patent does not give any legal rights to the inventor in Europe, North America, or Asia. Nor does it grant him rights in other South American countries. In order to get patent protection in Venezuela, the inventor would need to register his patent in Venezuela. So the patent is only a legal registration where the inventor registers his right to take legal actions against anyone who uses the idea he patents commercially. And anyone who wants to read the details of how the inventor's concept can simply look up the patent and read the text, and look at the pictures. Anyone in the world is free to use these ideas in his shop to tinker and experiment, as long as they don't use this idea for commercial purposes in the country where the patent is registered. An alternative to patenting an idea is to keep the idea as a trade secret. If the inventor does not patent his idea, then nobody will read the details or reproduce it in his own shop unless he discovered the same idea on his own. Trade secrets are often used because they dont require that the inventor disclose his idea for all the world to see, and they do not incur large legal fees to get the idea registered. Aside from the legal ramifications, we are talking about a circuit design that the inventor probably does not want made public. If Esteban is a relative of the inventor, wouldn't it seem natural for him to want to respect his relative/friend's wish to keep his ideas and work private? If I helped a friend with a series of projects, and I asked him not to reveal the details of the projects, then I would not feel good about my friend if I discovered he posted all the details on an internet forum. I see no reason to pressure Esteban to publish the circuitry under these circumstances, as it appears Alonso is the person to ask if you must have this circuit. Better yet, if he patented the circuitry, why not simply read his patent and see how it works there? My experience in this forum is Esteban has provided more circuit details of obscure circuitry from present and antique devices than anyone else. Has anyone else shown as much detail where we can experiment for ourselves and tinker with circuits that he posts? Esteban has has shown component values and modifications he made with performance results of his field tests. The only time I have seen Esteban refuse to post details is in connection with proprietary technology that he does not own or have permission to disclose. If you think about it, nobody else has come close to his dedication to helping experimenters in the remote sensing section except perhaps Geo, or maybe Ivconic, for the short time he posted here. And while we're on the subject, a big thank you to Esteban for his years of unrelenting service to the experimenters in this forum. Best wishes, J_P
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12-18-2007, 06:21 PM
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Hi to all especially to Morgan and Esteban.
first of all, Morgan, thank you for your humbly helps and sharing info here. Dear Esteban, Please do this big favor and let to others have the schematic. like you did before in Zahori. let to Morgan put it here as he observes and commits the moral rules. I'm sure other nice electronic experts here like Ivconic will do better things on it to promote it, this is a real corporation. and beneficial for all like as yourself. share us in your happiness. and be shared in our future happiness. surely all people will be grateful and never forget your favor as happened before about Zahori.
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12-18-2007, 07:23 PM
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 Actually, going by past experience with the Remote Sensing Forum, I'm not expecting to ever receive anything useful here. However, this device recently posted by Morgan is an interesting gizmo. It would be a shame if we couldn't discover the "idea" behind its supposed method of operation.
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12-18-2007, 09:57 PM
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12-18-2007, 09:58 PM
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12-18-2007, 10:20 PM
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After take note of all electronic components,i get this conclusion: Its dificult to build a replica of this device because of two ferrit and antenna,but anyway i will try to make one for me... I would like to share schematic with people here,and i think maybe someone here increase performance.I´m afraid to be acused to put public a registrated patent.Maybe i can put only elect.circuitry and not info about antenna and ferrit... I make more tests with this device and it beeps also in old aluminium cokacola can at 5m,40cm deep,unfortunly not only GOLD... 
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12-18-2007, 10:51 PM
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Hi J_player,
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 . I obviously 100% respect his decision , i am sure he understand this is nothing personnal ,but real information about LRL has been scarce here, and he is one of the few that has provided some true information. Thanks to Morgan for his efforts and the new pics.Força Esteban! Regards!, Fred.
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