Inside Mineoro210-part1

[hung]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

So as Ivconic asked, why does it bother you so much that someone would want to look inside a Mineoro?

Answer: It doesn't at all. In fact there ain't much that bothers me lately.

Is there something to hide?

Only the findings we the users eventually encounter.
- Carl[/quote]

[hung]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Reverse-engineering products is perfectly legal in the US, and in most other countries, I suspect.

This really seems to be the true purpose of your existence isn't it?
Never create something. Always (TRY) to copy it...
That's your motto!

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

This really seems to be the true purpose of your existence isn't it?
Never create something. Always (TRY) to copy it...
That's your motto!

I think you'll find that's far from the truth.
But there is something called "re-inventing the wheel".
Unfortunately (in the case of Mineoro) the wheel is square.

[Carl-NC]

I have moved all the nonsense to a thread titled "Misc Mineoro Banter". This thread is strictly for the discussion of Alexismex's Mineoro dissection. All other off-topic posts will get deleted.

[ivconic]

Bravo Carl!!!
Indeed very good decision!
Alexismex, man, this space is all yours!
We are waiting more photos! Thanks in advance...
regards

[Esteban]

Carl, as you have a Mineoro dissected in part, so, dissect you the sensor and show us!!!

Alex: do you can see the rules of the game?

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Carl, as you have a Mineoro dissected in part, so, dissect you the sensor and show us!!!

I was not permitted to dissect the sensor, and had to return the unit to its owner.

[Esteban]

Yes, you're right. Here your old post in attached Word. For strange reason, the pics are over. The black letters are mine.

But, has Alex permission?

[hung]

Well, Carl's descriptions of what he thinks the parts of Mineoro are... I tell you. Very singular...
With all respect to his supposed engineering background it's like someone looking at a radio and spoting a fax modem.

[hung]

I believe it is a simple regenerative receiver, used to pick up radio waves. I suspect the demonstrations I've heard about involve someone with an appropriate radio transmitter who can remotely cause the device to beep on command.


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[ivconic]

Who's gonna stop me,you or anybody else to disect and reverse eng. any device here???? Who can stop Alexismex to do what ever he want to do with his device???
The best way to truth is to do it by yourself....
And who's gonna stop me,you or anybody else to post experiences here???
Good job Alexismex,go ahead!

[sisco]

Hi all

special thank ALEXISMEX for send these pictures.

this picture help me for i understand how ion chamber charge.

this picture is all i understand in your sended.

hope can send me picture of UP and DOWN of black part(smallPCB)because

maybe i understand base operation of this set . if can draw schematic of

black part (small pcb) this is end of helping.if you take a good picture from

up and down of small pcd i can draw schematic circuit.

i think the microcontroller is not important .

first and important how work ion detector part.

Email:siscopanorama@yahoo.com


thank

[sisco]

Hi

excuse for my bad english

alexismex my means of up and down of small pcb is

Top layer and Bottom layer of small pcb(black part)

I tell the microcontroller is not important because AT89C2051 90% use for

analog comparator in pin12 and pin13 and we can detect voltage change

in this pins.

thank

[Max]

Originally Posted by sisco

Hi

excuse for my bad english

alexismex my means of up and down of small pcb is

Top layer and Bottom layer of small pcb(black part)

I tell the microcontroller is not important because AT89C2051 90% use for

analog comparator in pin12 and pin13 and we can detect voltage change

in this pins.

thank

Hi Sisco,
I dubt that this stuff could detect any metal buried object. Airborn ionic detection is fake stuff - can't work this way. Voltage changes can be related to infinite causes (rf noise, static, atmospheric...).

If this stuff works is not by voltage/ionic detection.

Read the "demistifing ion-chambers..." thread and you will know why.

Best regards,
Max

[sisco]

HI max

i tell this is all understand of alexismex pictures in bottom layer of

mineoro detector and i tell if can take good picture of top layer and

bottom layer of small pcb(black part) may be i can draw schematic of this

part .

meanwhile i dont need to understand how work or what operation theory

because this device maked and working.i just need schematic to make this

detector.

thank

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by sisco

meanwhile i dont need to understand how work or what operation theory because this device maked and working.i just need schematic to make thisdetector.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that because the Mineoro FG80 has been made and is working, then you don't need to understand why it works.

You are horribly confused.

It is true that the FG80 has been made, but it doesn't work. Just a lot of random beeping, but no detection of gold. In fact, no detection of anything. That's the real reason you don't need to know why it works, because it doesn't.

[Dell Winders]

Qiaozhi, you are horribly confused!

[sisco]

Not problem Dell Winders

i draw bottom layer of black part of CDM210 by pictures sent Alexismex

and wait for send good picture for top layer to draw this and can

understand schematic .

Alexismex ....i am wait for top layer and part list

thank

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Qiaozhi, you are horribly confused!

I appreciate your concern, but what should a horribly confused and hopeless man do with his life? Perhaps take up the fruitless pursuit of mental dowsing...

"If I look confused, it's because I'm thinking." - Samuel Goldwyn

[hung]

Dell: Don't waste your time arguing with Qiaozhi about his nonsenses regarding Mineoro detectors capabilities. He sounds he would not find gold even with a regular and ordinary MD. I quit discussing and arguing empty statements like his for sometime now. You should do the same.

Sisco: Your shematic seems fairly acurate although there's much more involved besides the ionic chamber. Also one of the 9v batteries feeds the LCD display.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Dell: Don't waste your time arguing with Qiaozhi about his nonsenses regarding Mineoro detectors capabilities. He sounds he would not find gold even with a regular and ordinary MD. I quit discussing and arguing empty statements like his for sometime now. You should do the same.

Sisco: Your shematic seems fairly acurate although there's much more involved besides the ionic chamber. Also one of the 9v batteries feeds the LCD display.

Aaah! Still around then?
I thought you were searching that treasure cave you "discovered" mid December last year. Or was it as "empty" as my statements?

Perhaps it's time to remind Carl about this ->

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

When I get some time I'll start a thread that takes all the Mineoro "explanations" and shows what utter nonsense they are.

- Carl

Does this man knows to swim?
He may fall into water and...!?
Luck for him, he hold mineoro...in case of accident!

[Max]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Aaah! Still around then?
I thought you were searching that treasure cave you "discovered" mid December last year. Or was it as "empty" as my statements?

Perhaps it's time to remind Carl about this ->

Hi,
so I know now that this stuff is useful in underwater research too...
just jump in the hole...and start to swim...
wow...it's a IAN TORPHE's treasure finder...I see

Best regards,
Max

[sisco]

see this address:

http://knouzm.net/en/guider-3000.html

price in my country (convert to US $) : 9700 $

and

http://knouzm.net/en/scorpion-301.html

price in my country (convert to US $) : 10500 $

can tell me what price in your country

[Max]

Originally Posted by sisco

see this address:

http://knouzm.net/en/guider-3000.html

price in my country (convert to US $) : 9700 $

and

http://knouzm.net/en/scorpion-301.html

price in my country (convert to US $) : 10500 $

can tell me what price in your country

Hi sisco,
I'm not surprised that it costs 10000$ or so...but that someone pay for these units even if there aren't scientific proofs that this stuff really work as claimed.
I don't want to buy something if I haven't any idea of what's inside...beliving in advertising only...having no care of my money and my intelligence.
I'm an conscius consumer. If this stuff or anything else will work for real and scientific proved how...I'll buy. Otherwise never.

Best regards,
Max