rangertell examiner field trials

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Theseus

So can I.... even across all those miles of ocean.

I'm guessing he gets probably at least 10%, maybe up to 20.

Yes ..... that's where the real treasure is to be found!

[g-sani]

Don't worry everybody I will let you know my experiences whith the examiner but it will take some time because of the weather were I live.
Mind you that if an LRL can do the job even sometimes and not always this is good enough for me and I will be happy.
Imagine an LRL that gives me one or two real targets(finds) every 10 times that I get a signal line. What will you say about that? It is not working?
Make up your mind and think different otherwise you will miss the train.
Of course you can say that this LRL is not working but when it comes to me I will be there smiling whith two nice finds in my pocket.
I believe that the best thing to do is to keep using this LRL and one day it will give you probably a major find(Treasure of a high value).
Sitting down looking for the perfect LRL that can give you valueable targets all of the times is like lying down underneath an appletree while you are hungry looking for the apple to fall into your mouth.
No, sorry my friends but you have to raise your hand to take the apple yourself otherwise you will still be hungry for ever.
The same applies to skeptics, I see them sitting there talking while others picking up Treasures everyday.

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by J_Player

All treasure hunters only tell the truth, and all fishremen too. This photo from steehead flyfishing is proof:

Check out my backpack J_P.
LRL is inside!

[Geo]

Originally Posted by g-sani

Don't worry everybody I will let you know my experiences whith the examiner but it will take some time because of the weather were I live.
Mind you that if an LRL can do the job even sometimes and not always this is good enough for me and I will be happy.
Imagine an LRL that gives me one or two real targets(finds) every 10 times that I get a signal line. What will you say about that? It is not working?
Make up your mind and think different otherwise you will miss the train.
Of course you can say that this LRL is not working but when it comes to me I will be there smiling whith two nice finds in my pocket.
I believe that the best thing to do is to keep using this LRL and one day it will give you probably a major find(Treasure of a high value).
Sitting down looking for the perfect LRL that can give you valueable targets all of the times is like lying down underneath an appletree while you are hungry looking for the apple to fall into your mouth.
No, sorry my friends but you have to raise your hand to take the apple yourself otherwise you will still be hungry for ever.
The same applies to skeptics, I see them sitting there talking while others picking up Treasures everyday.

Hi George.
Very good.
Next month i will come to test the Ranger Tell and to compare it with my LRLs.
I wish you good Treasures.
Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by g-sani

Check out my backpack J_P.
LRL is inside!

Ohhh as i see, this LRL is for big treasures

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Geo

Ohhh as i see, this LRL is for big treasures

In case of no treasure, reason can be extensive humidity.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by g-sani

Mind you that if an LRL can do the job even sometimes and not always this is good enough for me and I will be happy.

But will you be happy if it does the job zero times?
Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by g-sani

...Mind you that if an LRL can do the job even sometimes and not always this is good enough for me and I will be happy.

A Blind Hog Will Sometimes Find an Acorn....

So if you aren't going to challenge the Examiner in a full blown DB test, and you are satisfied with a "once in awhile find", then no need to waste your money on an Examiner. A piece of bent wire (L-shaped), your natural intuition, research, basic logic and best-guessing will come up "looking" successful "sometimes".

[hung]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

But will you be happy if it does the job zero times?
Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.

Ozzy, g-sani RUBBED comon sense in your face.
Maybe this time you think of it useable to your sick brains?
Gotta go from this circus now, had enough fun for today.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Ozzy, g-sani RUBBED comon sense in your face.
Maybe this time you think of it useable to your sick brains?
Gotta go from this circus now, had enough fun for today.

The circus clown has left the building!

As I said before ... and I repeat ->

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.

If there was any common-sense involved, then these do-nothing devices would not be on the market being promoted by someone who should know better.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by g-sani

Check out my backpack J_P.
LRL is inside!

Good luck g-sani!
You have just bought yourself an education.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by hung

Ozzy, g-sani RUBBED comon sense in your face.

If this is what you call common sense, then no wonder every do-nothing junk will work with you.
Exactly like a particular multimeter that sometime reads some values, sometimes it don´t ...know what i mean?

Like thesus said, a good high-tech piece of equipment for you would be Dr Stick...

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

Like thesus said, a good high-tech piece of equipment for you would be Dr Stick...

I don't know if you intended the double meaning ... but Dr H is a well known masochist!

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

But will you be happy if it does the job zero times?
Remember, you are talking about a RangerTell Scaminer (as promoted by Hung) whom you can hardly call a reputable source of useful information.

No I will not be happy Qiaozhi if this is the case.Probably I will give up to it.
I will test it out my own way first and many times in different weather conditions.
If I justify that in a place that the material in search was in present more than three or four times(reasonable volume) and the LRL didn't detect it then I will start thinking skeptical as well.
Apart from all this I believe I have another advantage myself when testing an LRL and this is perhaps my strong point.
This is testing them in a place that I know that a real treasure exists and when I am saying that I am talking about knowing the exact place.
How can that be?
Well may be I am in the lucky position of having documents of where some treasure are hidden or in the unlucky position that these treasures are imposible to be picked up.Everybody see it in his own way and may be you are right if you do not believe me when I am saying that.Mind you that I have confirmed these places whith my MFD or my pulse detector where possible.
My self I use these places as a test field and up to now the only LRL that passed all tests so far is the one I am using and it is an MFD as I said before.I have to admit that in those places the generator was always used less than 150 meters away from the known spot.But as I said It was times we got targets from a very long distance like 500mts for a 30*40cms target.
Gold gun AL707 for example when checking it in three different locations just gave the target in one of them and only once after three visits in the same place.But then there was no relative transmition of VLF stations so the result was expected in some way.
Thats why I say that we must give a chance to everything and always.
As Carl said(and I think J_P also agreed) you have to see something whith your own eyes first and then listen to others.

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by Theseus

A Blind Hog Will Sometimes Find an Acorn....

So if you aren't going to challenge the Examiner in a full blown DB test, and you are satisfied with a "once in awhile find", then no need to waste your money on an Examiner. A piece of bent wire (L-shaped), your natural intuition, research, basic logic and best-guessing will come up "looking" successful "sometimes".

A piece of bent wire might do exactly the same job for me but it is not the same Theseus.
If examiner works as many claim then it will be much less fatigue on the way when searching places.You can not dowse all day long my friend.It will take you down no matter who you are.Exaclty the same applies when you do it everyday for a long time.
But checking first whith something like an examiner will be of a great help as a start in a possible treasure to be place.Treasure Hunting I hope you agree that needs strategy as well.
Also there are other things in this that most people don't understand.
Think for example that some people use a mercedes to go from a place A to B when they could also go there on foot and sometimes spending the same time.
Do you want to know why?
There is no why my friend because although the result looks the same it is not, because the whole thing is incomparable from its very beggining.

[Qiaozhi]

Hi g-sani,

The fact that you think you know where a treasure is buried could be a major disadvantage, particularly if you use any device with a swinging handle. The RangerTell Scaminer is just a dowsing rod dressed up with some do-nothing electronics and a cheap calculator. Because of the ideomotor effect you will get the result that you expect.

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Hi g-sani,

The fact that you think you know where a treasure is buried could be a major disadvantage, particularly if you use any device with a swinging handle. The RangerTell Scaminer is just a dowsing rod dressed up with some do-nothing electronics and a cheap calculator. Because of the ideomotor effect you will get the result that you expect.

Hi Qiaozhi,
You see how dificult it is for somebody to say that he knows a couple of places where treasure is.I was thinking to put it down in my post and may be I was wrong doing it.
Straight away people fantasize that "I think" that I know where treasure is although I explained the situation.
I will explain again in case I was misunderstood.
I first went to those places having maps whith some reading on them explaining where the treasure was hidden and yes they were giving the exact spot one of them in pain Greek.
Then I got my LORENZ X3 went there again and crosschecked two of the places.Then some other time I went there to check them whith my freq.generator to see what it does.Bingo I got them again not by using rods but by having readings on the meter of my LRL.Well the third one I could not check it whith my X3 because it is inside a church.
Do you think that it was by chance to have readings in the same places(spots)? Do you think that Lorenz X3 gives faulse readings for targets the size of a box? Believe me it doesn't and anybody using it can assure you about that.
I agree that if you know the place of a target then most of the people might detect it whith rods but sorry this says nothing to me as well since your skeptical mind will be always keep saying that this is because of the ideomotor efect so nothing can be proved.
Electroscope 901 gave us a good target once and it was people again saying it was lucky and all this rubish.Many years passed and we had a few more finds and some of them were of a good value.
Is it bacause we are lucky and you are not?
If this is the case I feel sory for you my friend.

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi George.
Very good.
Next month i will come to test the Ranger Tell and to compare it with my LRLs.
I wish you good Treasures.
Regards

Hi Geo,
You are welcome my friend.

[Fred]

Hi G-sani,
I think there is a big misunderstanding here : the difference is between if these LRL works on a technical point of view, and on the other side on the human point of view.
You assure us it works on the human side, and i believe you.
But i am still waiting to see a technical proof that it really works.
As Qiaozhi said, as long as you know where the target is ,and unless you wrote every test you made in everyplace, results cannot be taken in account.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

Hi G-sani,
I think there is a big misunderstanding here : the difference is between if these LRL works on a technical point of view, and on the other side on the human point of view.
You assure us it works on the human side, and i believe you.
But i am still waiting to see a technical proof that it really works.
As Qiaozhi said, as long as you know where the target is ,and unless you wrote every test you made in everyplace, results cannot be taken in account.

At least Fred understood what I was saying.

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by Fred

Hi G-sani,
I think there is a big misunderstanding here : the difference is between if these LRL works on a technical point of view, and on the other side on the human point of view.
You assure us it works on the human side, and i believe you.
But i am still waiting to see a technical proof that it really works.
As Qiaozhi said, as long as you know where the target is ,and unless you wrote every test you made in everyplace, results cannot be taken in account.

Fred, I never wrote the tests I made in everyplace because the results are interesting me more.
Well it is sure that my other LRL(freq. generator) holds a technical proof since it gives me numbers on a meter when the material in search is present.
Sorry I can not help in that since I don't know how it is been made or in what principle it is based.Simply I don't care and I am busy digging targets instead of trying to see why it works.Apart from that I don't want to open it.
The only thing I can say is that whenever gave us a target we found it and proved right using our rods to follow the signal to the target.
Of course someone can say that may be there are times that it gives us nothing and may be the material in search exists in some place and we never know it.Well this holds truth and I have to admit it.
But then how can always proved right when the receiving signal gives as a meter reading?
Now when it comes to examiner I have to see it first, I cannot say anything yet but let me ask you something.
If it works for example that means I have dowsing abillities?
Well it is only me I can judge that and the only thing I can do for you is to let you know.
Believe me or not is a different story.
Since the beggining of time humans discovered many things just by experimenting and without knowing always the explaination behind them.
Of course some of them hold technical proofs but do you think that we always know it from the beggining?
Or is that a reason to stop using them? We understand things different as time passes by and we always adjust accordingly.
Weakness of understanting the technical point of view of a working LRL shouldn't stop us using it.
This is completely different policy than the one of skeptics.
Whatever they don't understand they say that it is not working and they will never try it themselves.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by g-sani

Check out my backpack J_P.
LRL is inside!

Hi g-sani,

Yes, I see excellent view of the LRL inside your backpack. But I don't see your pocket fisherman.
The pocket fisherman is small, but it finds big fish. Not only for finding goldfish.
--- Can catch a big fish good for breakfast and for lunch too!

Watch video again and see the big fish at the end of the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRQMCRy7YwU


Also, Mr. Stick LRL can be modified for catching fish too, but is not as good for recovering big fish as the Pocket Fisherman.
Good news is you only need to take Mr. Stick... no extra LRL needed!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by g-sani

A piece of bent wire might do exactly the same job for me but it is not the same Theseus.
If examiner works as many claim then it will be much less fatigue on the way when searching places.You can not dowse all day long my friend.It will take you down no matter who you are.Exaclty the same applies when you do it everyday for a long time.
But checking first whith something like an examiner will be of a great help as a start in a possible treasure to be place.Treasure Hunting I hope you agree that needs strategy as well.
Also there are other things in this that most people don't understand.
Think for example that some people use a mercedes to go from a place A to B when they could also go there on foot and sometimes spending the same time.
Do you want to know why?
There is no why my friend because although the result looks the same it is not, because the whole thing is incomparable from its very beggining.

Whatever..... I can see your mind is made up, and there is nothing I'm going to say that will change it in any way.

Good luck with your Intuition Indicator. Believe me; a bent piece of wire will do the same thing for you.

[Theseus]

Appears we certainly have a lot of time for fishing; but not so much for testing the Examiner.

...wonder what happened to that little venture?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Appears we certainly have a lot of time for fishing; but not so much for testing the Examiner.

...wonder what happened to that little venture?

I don't have time for fishing.
It is where I would be if I wasn't stuck in an office for so many hours.

That little venture is in the same stage of progress as I stated in numerous posts above. Currently I am waiting for people to send me a PM to come and try it out with their own hands. But nobody responded. I contacted 4 Geotech forum members in my local area, and found that all four of them declined to do any testing on the Examiner, even if I came to where they are located so they could conveniently perform tests.

At present, after trying to locate known targets with the Examiner adjusted at the factory settings, and re-adjusted to different settings, I have concluded that I am a person who is biologically impaired, and cannot perform a scientific test on an Examiner even if it is tuned perfectly. Without a person who has "normal biological signals", I cannot make an accurate adjustment of the trimmer cap.

I have no questions other than to ask if anyone wants to try it out in thie Los Angeles area and see if they can find good response with it after making their best adjustments at the controls. If you have suggestions of how you think I should proceed next, I would be interested in hearing them.

Best wishes,
J_P