Are you interested how LRLs really work?

[Funfinder]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

You are absolutely correct about the interests of the people running this forum. They don't want to know the facts. If you can't fool viewers with Scientific nonsense,baffle them with BS. So, Goodbye! Dell

And such words from you, absolutly fantastic!

I think thats the reason why guys like you can have a life on such a basis! You are funny and people like comedy!

They even like the entertainment by a so called LRL no matter if it works or not! Its comparable with a wooden car you play as a child - it also just moves by yourself.

I'm shure there are people out there that can use a wooden car as a LRL by holding one wheel and see in what direction the body of the car moves!


Dell, it already starts with the "swinging" construction of your LRL so that no scientific proof ever will be possible. This thing needs a person with muscles who operates it. The whole "bio-energetic" stuff is pure nonsense, otherwise tell us proofs about that needed bio-energy.

[Funfinder]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

I'm not sure you do understand.

Remember, I'm a skeptic, and therefore my opinion is that all of these LRLs "work" by a trick of the mind. However, that doesn't stop me providing you with the necessary tools to experiment and make your own decision on the subject. If Morgan and Geo state that their LRLs definitely work, and other people say the opposite, then who will you believe? You have to figure it out for yourself. If you build TOTeM and then find a treasure, what will you believe then? Was it pure chance, or does the phenomenon really exist?

You can continue to ask the same questions again and again, but at the end of the day it's up to you. Do the experiments as I have done, and then you'll know the answer.

Chapter 14 of ITMD provides you with the opportunity to experiment with a pistol detector design for a minimal cost and make up your own mind. That is quite simply its purpose ... nothing more ... and with no guarantees whatsoever.

Being skeptic is a must in this world full of criminals, hunting-animals (predators) and exploitation - but finding scientifical discoveries is based on recognition, knowledge, experiments, combining, new developments, improvements and the logical correct structures behind.



Houston, we have a problem - with the TOTeM:

This machine can't work at all, because as we know it from Esteban and others the usual MDs EM-radiation destroys the "phenomenon force field". The TOTeM is like a finger that touches soap-bubbles !!!


> If Morgan and Geo state that their LRLs definitely work, and other people say the opposite, then who will you believe?

The problem is that here in this forum are far to few persons that have real experience with this kind of stuff or that are willing to cooperate on real useful basis.

This here is completly "amateur" or "rookie" liga - professional work looks totally different.


There are some tries to find out on a good basis to discover whats going on like here:

http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18320

... but we see, how fast such tries end in the gutter! It's very sad, because the topic itself really is fascinating from an exploring of the unknown point of view, the fun to discover interesting and perhaps really win-bringing phenomenons of nature. This always was a motor to push zivilisation and progress.

Just here the progress has come to an halt since a long time!


> > If Morgan and Geo state that their LRLs definitely work, and other people say the opposite, then who will you believe?

Not just "if", they really state that their LRLs are working, together with some others. But how useful is the big question.


btw. those PDK and Mineoro "passive receiver" circuits are not at all detecting metal objects the long range !!!

They only detect some signal-line or way and directly near the treasure they detect nothing more.

Otherwise no 2in1 circuit would be needed.

And this circuit is completly absurd - cause it eliminates the extremly weak "phenomenon-field", and this definitly destroys the chance to find something there at all or on a repeatable basis.


Ooops sorry, I forgot to answer that question:

>>> > If Morgan and Geo state that their LRLs definitely work, and other people say the opposite, then who will you believe?

Practically seen: at the moment I wouldn't risk to buy such a device because there are high chances that it might just work finetuned at their home-locations.

I am not interested to believe things on such a superficial basis!

And I don't accept on a pricinple basis all those stupid secrecy-games, because this is also the tactic of betrayers so they can hide their crimes! Bank-robbers also don't call the police before.

So first there has to be an open platform for useful experimenting-input and for finding plausible conclusions.

A little magnet can simulate the earth magnetic field and that way the work of a compass can be simulated or tested, the way how it works gets clearer with such experiments.

The same has to be applied to our LRL-issue.


And if all those persons here that tell about experiments and show test videos etc. are not willing to cooperate on a useful basis, they can stop their activity here completly!

Carl Moreland for shure made this forum because of technical interest and not for people that brag about their great LRLs and the rest is a stupid hide and seek childsplay concerning useful information!

For me such behaviour is a personal insult because this is a BS!
They can play such useless games with other people, I am used to work professional and I don't deal with stupid kids and their childish ambitions in making a huge wave and in the end there is nothing behind at all, then there are no hard facts available!

This is here not Hollywood where we wanna see flying saucers in movies. Its about to find out if some special LRL stuff works at all, why and how it can be improved to a reliable and real useful basis.

And the success in that case since 7 years is almost zero - ask why!


It simply excites me, but on a very bad level.

It's like throwing away money and time and geting nothing in return than again and again, over and over, the same useless crap!

No progress here for the LRL topic, absolutly no progress!


It seems this is made up artifical, because some "LRL guys" don't have the slightest interest someone looks behind the crime-scene.
They wanna trick the police and lawyers even longer and longer.

And some of them just wanna hide that there's nothing than hot air behind their claims, reports and pseudo-detectors.

A person that has nothing to hide also has no problem to give the needed info so everyone is able to prove if that what he says and claims really is true.

But I don't deal with mysterious-chandlers, with suspect individuals, utopians and fantasists. I wanna have success in life, I know what I want and I don't wanna be the victim of all those pseudo-reality-spreaders and manipulateurs out there that go over balance for their own filthy interests.

I'm not talking about any certain or special person in this forum - this was general spoken because the field of LRLs is full of traps, liars and fraudsters AND thats why it is REALLY important that we make it better here for getting really useful results!

The situation is not so bad here. We have around 5-10 guys who are experimenting with LRLs "successfully", 2 or 3 of them on a more ambitious basis, we have some schematics and we even have the possibility to buy such a LRL device (the Crypton Mini) for a relative low price (600 bucks is not much compared with over 10.000 bucks).

So at least I have a little bit hope left that we will get some real meaningful results and findings in the future - it's high time!

[Geo]

Here another member said that Funfinder tried to supply lrls at middle europe

"""What have we here?
Funfinder still pretending he can't figure it out?
Funfinder tells us he has no problem to steal other peoples private information and use it for commercial venture.
He tells us he will be testing and supporting an LRL for commercial sale in middle Europe.
He even tells us he does not respect copyrights... He thinks it is ok to steal things which have been copyrighted to use for his commercial activities.

Then he tries to blame people who have private information which they don't want him to use in his commercial activities in Europe?

Conjecture? There no conjecture at all.
These are exact words that Funfinder typed in the Geotech forum..!
You cannot erase your words from the Geotech forum.

Funfinder, please tell us what these words mean:""""""

Do you remember funfinder???

Here another old post....
Hi Funfinder,
We see from your first post that you will support your new Greek commercial LRL in middle Europe.
And you are already supporting OKM here in the forum.
It also appears you may support OKM as another of your commercial LRL for middle Europe in your product line.
And we know you believe that "owners rights shall go to hell" from your previous post.
This is the reason that i say you liar and hypocrite.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Funfinder

Houston, we have a problem - with the TOTeM:

This machine can't work at all, because as we know it from Esteban and others the usual MDs EM-radiation destroys the "phenomenon force field". The TOTeM is like a finger that touches soap-bubbles !!!

In that case the Alonso PDK cannot work either, as it is contains an exact copy of the Heathkit GD348, plus a ferrite receiver circuit.
Anyway, TOTeM has a switch that turns off the transmitter so that it can operate in passive mode.

Originally Posted by Funfinder

btw. those PDK and Mineoro "passive receiver" circuits are not at all detecting metal objects the long range !!!

The PDK contains a transmitter, as stated above, so this is incorrect. This also conflicts with your previous statement. Are you now saying that it must have a transmitter in order to function as an LRL? Previously you stated that it couldn't possibly work if it had one!

Personally I don't think that any of them actually work, except as a "Trick Of The Mind". Go ahead, order the book, build TOTeM, and then experiment with both the passive and active modes. Then you will know the answers, and won't have to keep asking the same questions ad infinitum.

[Funfinder]

Originally Posted by Geo

Here another member said that Funfinder tried to supply lrls at middle europe

"""What have we here?
Funfinder still pretending he can't figure it out?
Funfinder tells us he has no problem to steal other peoples private information and use it for commercial venture.
He tells us he will be testing and supporting an LRL for commercial sale in middle Europe.
He even tells us he does not respect copyrights... He thinks it is ok to steal things which have been copyrighted to use for his commercial activities.

Then he tries to blame people who have private information which they don't want him to use in his commercial activities in Europe?

Conjecture? There no conjecture at all.
These are exact words that Funfinder typed in the Geotech forum..!
You cannot erase your words from the Geotech forum.

Funfinder, please tell us what these words mean:""""""

Do you remember funfinder???

Here another old post....
Hi Funfinder,
We see from your first post that you will support your new Greek commercial LRL in middle Europe.
And you are already supporting OKM here in the forum.
It also appears you may support OKM as another of your commercial LRL for middle Europe in your product line.
And we know you believe that "owners rights shall go to hell" from your previous post.
This is the reason that i say you liar and hypocrite.

haaaa haaa haaa, how funny, behaviour like a little child


Think what you want, Geo, I don't must defend myself here at all for my opinions and I don't have to give statements about any accusations somebody makes!

Fact is that I am no reseller, nonone who makes business with LRL or all those stupid nonworking ciruits and that I respect copy- and ownerrights only until a reasonable level. Because we see already where it leads - the copyright-idiots wanna reign the internet and wanna rip off people just by putting a stupid somewhere found little jpg picture onto the website.


Respecting the "copyrights" (I doubt it has one ) of those Alonso circuits would be respecting a tool which is used to commit a crime and so its absurd to respect it.

I would respect this "criminal schematic used for deceiving" if it really works but this is not the case, otherwise you Geo are invited to prove it! I'm shure you can't!

Even Alonso himself didn't respect the copyright of the Heatkit circuit. We can see with Mineoro how "fantastic" this kind of crap-circuit works, otherwise this guy from Mineoro wouldn't need criminal betrayer-tricks!!!

btw. first I wanna see hard evidence that this Alonso circuit has any copyrights etc. at all! I'm shure it has none and therefore it's fully legal to do with this crap whatever wants (their problem if they waste time with it, like you, Geo - how many hours do you have already wasted for this crap?)


Geo, you are paranoid and crazy - you think I will make the big business with your crappy Alonso circuits, you think I give it to Andreas!


The reality is that I don't care about that stupid circuit at all but I wanna get a clear proven YES or NO if LRL really works and I wanna know who are the fraudsters and LRL-works-claim-betrayers!

And people like you with its childish hide and seek games are just a stone in the way! Provide scientifical useful info and stop spreading all kind of claims and accusations!


At least meanwhile we have the proof that the Mineoro are working very bad or not at all, otherwise not such criminal camouflage-tricks would must have been made.


That was it because:

1. I don't need people who throw wrong accusations against me just by pure guess!

2. I don't waste my time with mysterious-chandlers that can't provide any useful and scientifical important contribution.


Ciao Geo, and be careful to respect at least all the treasure-hunting rules in Greece or you could bring yourself into deep trouble...

[Funfinder]

@ Qiaozhi

> In that case the Alonso PDK cannot work either, as it is contains an exact copy of the Heathkit GD348, plus a ferrite receiver circuit.

Oh, It contains even an exact copy, very interesting for Geo, our fantastic LRL-schematic-copyright-advocate.

Well, it was not me who said that the usual metal-detector radiation would destroy the "LRL-phenomenon" - other persons made that discoveries and: more than one!

They even claim that it doesn't work if the ground was moved by machines as its the case when a farmer works on the fields.


> Anyway, TOTeM has a switch that turns off the transmitter so that it can operate in passive mode.

Unbeatable argument, I must confess!
Congratulations, this switch has saved the TOTeM.




Originally Posted by Funfinder
btw. those PDK and Mineoro "passive receiver" circuits are not at all detecting metal objects the long range !!!


Compare it with a light source:
The closer you come the brighter the light source will be for your eyes. Thats not the LRL case -
suddenly - close to the find - the signal tears apart, goes off.

So if the LRL really would detect the target itself, it would not go off.

And thats why it seems the LRL only is able to detect the distorted field around the object!

btw. this is the perfect argument to defeat a LRL-reseller if he writes on his advertisment that his LRL is able to detect gold from a distance etc.

Because such writing is a proven lie if the detector only is capable to detect some sort of distortion-field around the object and not the object itself!

Hahaha, its great to be clever in this world full of bas***ds to defeat yourself against all those who wanna mess up your own life!

You will also save alot of money while fools get cheated all the way!


> Are you now saying that it must have a transmitter in order to function as an LRL?

Who cares if the LRL / PDK / Alonso circuit contains a transmitter?
I don't understand - why I should think it must have a transmitter?


> Previously you stated that it couldn't possibly work if it had one!

Transmitter never was a topic at all, I just wrote that some persons claim that the usual metal detector radiation destroys the "LRL-phenomenon" and therefore this TOTeM construction is highly questionable as a good demonstration or experimenting object.

The TOTeM absolutly needs the following warning sticker:
"Switching to real working metal detecting mode may destroy the LRL-phenomenon-force-field around you!"




> Go ahead, order the book, build TOTeM, and then experiment with both the passive and active modes.


Perhaps the best idea, but now a question to you Qiaozhi only you can answer:

I guess you have built and tested the TOTeM by yourself and after your statements the result concerning LRL-detection is "trick of the mind". For me this indicates that Morgan and Geo are tricked by their own mind because both of them tell us that they get real working results with the same kind of circuit stuff!

Who's right now, you or they?




> Then you will know the answers, and won't have to keep asking the same questions ad infinitum.

I won't ask ad infinium and I think building this stuff by myself is not the only solution to get satisfying answers because we have already more than enough persons out there that have some experience with this kinda stuff.



This forum is for information and we should find at least a way to get the real counting one!

If I would have a really working LRL I would give you all the crucial and important info, I would make serious tests and would answer all the really needed questions! So I don't understand why others refuse their real needed cooperation!
They are destroying the opportunity for everyone for geting needed and imporant results!
Its their fault if persons who read here still buying crappy LRLs because they had no chance geting clear results!

So be useful or go away, all you "LRL story providers" and don't make me sick with your headaches causing mental junkfood!

What is the prognosis for this forum for the year 2020???

Let me guess:
Oh what a shame, still nowbody here has a clue if LRLs proven work or not!

What a poverty-certificate !!!
Congratulations, longRangeLocators Forum!


How cheap is this whole situation?
People who can't prove the LRLs neither OK nor wrong!

[brasilpb]

Look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=dBNvr7xpQwg

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by brasilpb

Look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=dBNvr7xpQwg

yes,the video show Paulinho Torquato using the FG90 in the beach...