rangertell examiner field trials

[WM6]

Originally Posted by g-sani

... I can tell you now that is really confused.

Probably this is the only truth, dear g-sani.

About Christmas my best frieds, whom I believe, say to me, that he saw Santa inside BigMarkt. It is hard to believe to me and I wish to convince myself about this tale story.

And, yes, what electric shock, I saw Santa in BigMarkt too. I didnt want to touch his beard and mustache because he was on other property. But after that some other people told to me that they saw Santa at the same place too. No one pull his beard and mustache down because of other property.

Now I firmly believe in Santa.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by g-sani

You see I stopped my friend of buying his LRL when I explained him that there is the examiner that does exactly the same and I can tell you now that is really confused.

Hi g-sani,

I can't tell you anything about field performance for the Examiner. But I can tell you something about what's inside of them. The earlier version that Carl-NC showed photos of is no longer being made. There was a newer diodes model that was also finally updated to the present model. The basic model being sold today is the Examiner T-G version 8.08B for a special sale price of $421 US. You can see this on the products page at the Rangertell website.

I received an email from Rangertell giving approval open this T-G version 8.08B Examiner and post photos of what I see inside.
I have no test data to show yet, but have fun seeing how the new ones look inside:

[WM6]

Hi J_P

Brilliant picture and add comments. Thank you.

I am trying to find som meter indicator or buzzer on picture but there is nothing. Hov RT indicate direction to treasure or indication is not needed cause they cannot find nothing?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi g-sani,

I can't tell you anything about field performance for the Examiner. But I can tell you something about what's inside of them. The earlier version that Carl-NC showed photos of is no longer being made. There was a newer diodes model that was also finally updated to the present model. The basic model being sold today is the Examiner T-G version 8.08B for a special sale price of $421 US. You can see this on the products page at the Rangertell website.

I received an email from Rangertell giving approval open this T-G version 8.08B Examiner and post photos of what I see inside.
I have no test data to show yet, but have fun seeing how the new ones look inside:

.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by WM6

Hi J_P

Brilliant picture and add comments. Thank you.

I am trying to find som meter indicator or buzzer on picture but there is nothing. Hov RT indicate direction to treasure or indication is not needed cause they cannot find nothing?

Hi WM6,
There are no meters or buzzer in this Examiner to tell you when you find treasure. I read in the instruction manual the explanation how it works:
First they explain the circuit inside is set to a resonant frequency with the target by pressing the correct buttons on the calculator.
The manual explains how this essentially reinforces the target material's "signal" to amplify it in the circuitry.
Then to indicate where is the treasure:
"On being amplified by the circuitry in the Examiner the magnetic laws govern its disposition for it to align with the target's direction".

I hope the explanation from the manual helps.


Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Then to indicate where is the treasure:
"On being amplified by the circuitry in the Examiner the magnetic laws govern its disposition for it to align with the target's direction".

I hope the explanation from the manual helps.

J_P

Thanks, it helps a lot. But now I understand that this creation is much more complex and sophisticated than I assumed.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by g-sani

This guy took the patent of RT and makes the same detectors ...

A patent of a RT ? where?


Amazing work J-P , i found very interesting the way to hold the "pickup" coils and the crystal connected (in serial) with it.

Every working TV set has an oscillator running on that frequency, do they talk about interference from TV´s when using the RT ?
Fortunately i don´t see many wires that can move around during shipping.Maybe this is why they don´t need to use packing peanuts...

[hung]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi g-sani,

I can't tell you anything about field performance for the Examiner. But I can tell you something about what's inside of them. The earlier version that Carl-NC showed photos of is no longer being made. There was a newer diodes model that was also finally updated to the present model. The basic model being sold today is the Examiner T-G version 8.08B for a special sale price of $421 US. You can see this on the products page at the Rangertell website.

I received an email from Rangertell giving approval open this T-G version 8.08B Examiner and post photos of what I see inside.
I have no test data to show yet, but have fun seeing how the new ones look inside:

Hey bigmouth, so there's indeed a diode as I had stated eh ??

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

Hey bigmouth, so there's indeed a diode as I had stated eh ??

I don't see a diode connected to the pot as you stated. I am reading the report where you made the claims you opened yours and took meter measurements inside.

I am wondering what readings you took inside where the diode is connected to the pot. I am wondering why we never saw any meter readings you allegedly took inside. It looks easy to take readings inside to me. Were you making up a story? Was this more fake testing you pretended to do? Is this why you had to wait until you found anther way to connect a meter without breaking the enclosure?
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=63618

Best wishes,
J_P

[hung]

Originally Posted by J_Player

I don't see a diode connected to the pot as you stated. I am reading the report where you made the claims you opened yours and took meter measurements inside.

I am wondering what readings you took inside where the diode is connected to the pot. I am wondering why we never saw any meter readings you allegedly took inside. It looks easy to take readings inside to me. Were you making up a story? Was this more fake testing you pretended to do? Is this why you had to wait until you found anther way to connect a meter without breaking the enclosure?
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=63618

Best wishes,
J_P

1 - In my model there's a diode conected to the pot. It requires 1 single neuron for a geek to figure there are several modifications employed along RT years. doohh!

2 - If I had not opened my examiner I would never be able to apply my mod.
In my report I decided to not show the insides of the unit as I have ethics, unlike you who don't.

This case is closed to me. I will not waste my time beating your dead horse here.

Gotta go.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by J_Player

I am wondering why we never saw any meter readings you allegedly took inside.

J_P

Measurement contact was done on brass rod from downside:

Such "phenomenon" can be measured inside buildings on all LC circuit, there do not need calculator to be present.

Are you open calculator too, to prove if some mod was done?

[WM6]

Originally Posted by hung

In my report I decided to not show the insides of the unit as I have ethics, unlike you who don't.

.

Read first then accuse!

J_P clarify before photos:

"I received an email from Rangertell giving approval open this T-G version 8.08B Examiner and post photos of what I see inside.
I have no test data to show yet, but have fun seeing how the new ones look inside: "

But you have ethics to sell nonworking boxes to naive? Great ethics!

[g-sani]

Originally Posted by WM6

Probably this is the only truth, dear g-sani.

About Christmas my best frieds, whom I believe, say to me, that he saw Santa inside BigMarkt. It is hard to believe to me and I wish to convince myself about this tale story.

And, yes, what electric shock, I saw Santa in BigMarkt too. I didnt want to touch his beard and mustache because he was on other property. But after that some other people told to me that they saw Santa at the same place too. No one pull his beard and mustache down because of other property.

Now I firmly believe in Santa.

You will never be able to understand the point that somebody else makes WM6 because you consider your self more clever than anybody.
To see things doesn't mean that all you have to do is to keep your eyes open.
You are oversuspicious whith everything and everybody and this will result of yourself being at the same low level for ever.Be generous for once in your life WM6, you must give first in order to receive.
Well thats your choice and you can always keep sleeping.
Of course you can always dream of Santa Claus as you always do since the day you were a child.
But watch out WM6 don't dream of him having presents(treasure) in his bag since you will never see a treasure yourself the way you go.

P.S. Don't worry about the gold inside that property my friend.
I checked it whith my X3 not to prove that my LRL or that guy's LRL is working but only because time has come for
that gold to be picked up from somebody.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

1 - In my model there's a diode conected to the pot. It requires 1 single neuron for a geek to figure there are several modifications employed along RT years. doohh!

2 - If I had not opened my examiner I would never be able to apply my mod.
In my report I decided to not show the insides of the unit as I have ethics, unlike you who don't.

This case is closed to me. I will not waste my time beating your dead horse here.

Gotta go.

Hi hung.
There is no question of ethics in showing the inside of an Examiner. Rangertell sent an approval to show the photos you see above. They don't mind if you show photos of the inside and show what variances you measure on the meter readings you get. You realise of course many people don't believe you ever made meter readings inside your Examiner showing variances.

As far as the mod you claimed to make on your Examiner, you said the only mod you made was to stop the handle from swiveling. It is not necessary to open an Examiner to stop the handle from swiveling. But even if you opened it to stop the handle from swiveling or other mods, you still did not show any meter readings that indicate variances inside at the diode connected to the pot like you claimed you did.

I can see why you are anxious to close this matter.

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Originally Posted by g-sani

You will never be able to understand the point that somebody else makes WM6 because you consider your self more clever than anybody.
To see things doesn't mean that all you have to do is to keep your eyes open.
You are oversuspicious whith everything and everybody and this will result of yourself being at the same low level for ever.Be generous for once in your life WM6, you must give first in order to receive.
Well thats your choice and you can always keep sleeping.
Of course you can always dream of Santa Claus as you always do since the day you were a child.
But watch out WM6 don't dream of him having presents(treasure) in his bag since you will never see a treasure yourself the way you go.

Thanks for compliments, g-sani, but compliments are not arguments, that your point of view is correct. In contrary its lack of arguments.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi hung.
There is no question of ethics in showing the inside of an Examiner. Rangertell sent an approval to show the photos you see above. They don't mind if you show photos of the inside and show what variances you measure on the meter readings you get. You realise of course many people don't believe you ever made meter readings inside your Examiner showing variances.

As far as the mod you claimed to make on your Examiner, you said the only mod you made was to stop the handle from swiveling. It is not necessary to open an Examiner to stop the handle from swiveling. But even if you opened it to stop the handle from swiveling or other mods, you still did not show any meter readings that indicate variances inside at the diode connected to the pot like you claimed you did.

I can see why you are anxious to close this matter.

Best wishes,
J_P

It's the old "duck and cover" routine. Most all LRL aficionados have some sort of a run and hide plan in place when cornered with facts and truth they can't debunker.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi g-sani,

I can't tell you anything about field performance for the Examiner. But I can tell you something about what's inside of them. The earlier version that Carl-NC showed photos of is no longer being made. There was a newer diodes model that was also finally updated to the present model. The basic model being sold today is the Examiner T-G version 8.08B for a special sale price of $421 US. You can see this on the products page at the Rangertell website.

I received an email from Rangertell giving approval open this T-G version 8.08B Examiner and post photos of what I see inside.
I have no test data to show yet, but have fun seeing how the new ones look inside:

Kind of sorry you took it apart prior to the testing. If the testing actually ever happens, isn't there a good chance this action can be used "as an excuse" if the test results are less than glowing?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Kind of sorry you took it apart prior to the testing. If the testing actually ever happens, isn't there a good chance this action can be used "as an excuse" if the test results are less than glowing?

Hi Theseus,
I don't think so. I was cautioned not to move the wires inside, and I was very careful about this. From my recent observations, I think the problem is not with moved wires. I think the best operation will be found after some time-consuming adjistments to the tuning cap, which I was told must be moved a hair at a time. I expect this to be very time consuming based on my first few attempts, that included several other things to be adjusted to various settings after each setting at the cap. Of course, I am only guessing the tuning cap is the problem at this point. But if people begin complaining that any testing is void because it was opened, then I can return it for a replacement that is never opened.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Is this capacitor tuning necessary?
In their adverts they say a child can use it, and that it is not complicated , so i don´t think you will find any difficulty.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Fred

Is this capacitor tuning necessary?
In their adverts they say a child can use it, and that it is not complicated , so i don´t think you will find any difficulty.

Seems we are getting two different versions of this story. The way J_Player states, I hardly think a child could work through the setup procedure, and probably a lot of ordinary users, either.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Seems we are getting two different versions of this story. The way J_Player states, I hardly think a child could work through the setup procedure, and probably a lot of ordinary users, either.

From what I read, when it is functioning properly, a child can use it. When it is not functioning properly, then you may need to make a number of adjustments to get it to function properly. One of those adjustments is the temperamental setscrew. It only sounds like two different versions of the story if you have not read the instruction manual that tells you the whole story that the manufacturer publishes when he sends a unit.

I presume the majority of these units do not need to have the setscrew adjusted. But I really don't know.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Boldgold]

This is surreal, are some of you people for real. Close this case once and for all. Finding gold and silver from a distance with, and ALL long range locators are 100% scams with scam machines, put out by scam artists, designed to scam people to separate them from their money. SCAM, Suckers Come Away Mystified. Don't be mystified by the junk science!

Imaging radar for deep objects directly below or a Magnetometer(magnetic surveys) to find iron anomalities done from an airplane done by large mining companies does work. But there is NO electronic instrument that finds gold and silver off in the far off horizontal distance in the horizon 25, 100, or 1000 meters(yards) off, I can assure you! If you have a personal gift from God, you do not need an expensive electronic unit. Bent clothes hanger wires and/or map dowsing would then work, and can be made for under $5 or so.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Boldgol

This is surreal, are some of you people for real. Close this case once and for all. Finding gold and silver from a distance with, and ALL long range locators are 100% scams with scam machines, put out by scam artists, designed to scam people to separate them from their money. SCAM, Suckers Come Away Mystified. Don't be mystified by the junk science!

Imaging radar for deep objects directly below or a Magnetometer(magnetic surveys) to find iron anomalities done from an airplane done by large mining companies does work. But there is NO electronic instrument that finds gold and silver off in the far off horizontal distance in the horizon 25, 100, or 1000 meters(yards) off, I can assure you! If you have a personal gift from God, you do not need an expensive electronic unit. Bent clothes hanger wires and/or map dowsing would then work, and can be made for under $5 or so.

Hi Boldgol,

You might be right about that. This is what I though also. And so far, I have never seen any real live evidence of any handheld instrument finding buried treasure off at a distance on the horizon.

Yet we have people here that claim they have done it. So I am taking the advice of Carl-NC who runs this forum. He says we should not take his word or for it, or the word of people who make these claims. We should try it out and see for ourselves. And that is what I am doing. If it works, then I will see it work in my own hands. And if it doesn't work I will see it doesn't work. I will have a chance to test it any way I want to arrive at a final conclusion. I can't think of a better way than that to find out if those claims are true or not.

But that's not all. I will also be inviting anyone else to come try it out and see for themselves too. And I will make photos and videos to show what I see it doing or not doing. So if you want people to believe like you do, send me a PM to come try it out yourself so I can post a video to show everybody exactly what kind of performance you see.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Boldgold

This is surreal, are some of you people for real. Close this case once and for all. Finding gold and silver from a distance with, and ALL long range locators are 100% scams with scam machines, put out by scam artists, designed to scam people to separate them from their money. SCAM, Suckers Come Away Mystified. Don't be mystified by the junk science!

Imaging radar for deep objects directly below or a Magnetometer(magnetic surveys) to find iron anomalities done from an airplane done by large mining companies does work. But there is NO electronic instrument that finds gold and silver off in the far off horizontal distance in the horizon 25, 100, or 1000 meters(yards) off, I can assure you! If you have a personal gift from God, you do not need an expensive electronic unit. Bent clothes hanger wires and/or map dowsing would then work, and can be made for under $5 or so.

You are preaching to the choir.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by J_Player

We should try it out and see for ourselves. And that is what I am doing. If it works, then I will see it work in my own hands. And if it doesn't work I will see it doesn't work. I will have a chance to test it any way I want to arrive at a final conclusion. I can't think of a better way than that to find out if those claims are true or not.

J_P

J_P this so called dowsing "phenomenon" was explained by science 100 years ago, as was explained that the Earth is round and not flat.

You can still find people who argue that Earth is flat. So, should you flew to the moon to personally make you sure what is true?

http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/SciRef...flatearth.html