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Old 04-23-2018, 11:22 AM
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This is said to be a static detector. Morgan knows it.
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:21 PM
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Hi Dubulumach, my coil inductance is 170 microhenry. This is from 40 turns, .30mm and 6 cm diameter.
Thank you GOLDEN LILLY,

Do you have original Morgan PDK or self-made.

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Old 04-24-2018, 04:46 AM
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Self made...and I am still experimenting its behaviour with different coils and tuning capacitors.
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:51 AM
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Hello Morgan

I am very interesting in this new LRL by Alonso. Have you some technical details about coils and electronics.
Did he used his original passive reciver design or maybe new one with toroidal-wrapped coil. Currently i analyse Mineoro DCH210 which my friend Geo posted long time ago on this forum, and also Esteban Cabrera Grinok modification of DC2008, with new passive receiver, rf sniffer, big printed square loop copper coil and small ellipse loop balance coil. I am extremely interesting in those two designs because i think they are best lrls in the world.





ps. Morgan if you wish contact me at my private email. I think i found some very interesting behaviour of passive receiver ferrite core, which can drastic boost detection distance in your PDK-s. Also you should catch tiny mV signals with new active amplitude detector. I already drawn new passive receiver schematic but not made it and not tested on real field with gold and silver targets.

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Old 04-25-2018, 11:07 AM
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Morgan analyse this. It is the most informative schematic diagram i've found at this forum.


If you like to talk with me write at private email.

note: Estban's pasive receiver work with phase opposite signal at 180 el.degrees. To achieve no-signal mode, ferrite input LC tank circuit must be tuned to sense opposite phase of stimulus signal, so the net phase is zero or in other words ferrite output is hold balanse, was nulled. Halo effect from gold target or silver one, disturb mutual net phase, either from stimulus or ferrite LC tank or both. This avalanche disbalance act up amplitude rise at 2nd dc amplifier stage (rise voltage after diode rectification) and trigger audio beeper generator. Target detected.


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Old 04-25-2018, 12:26 PM
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Estban's pasive receiver (mag.preamplifier) work with phase opposite signal at 180 el.degrees. To achieve no-signal mode, ferrite input LC tank circuit must be tuned to sense opposite phase of stimulus signal (ferrite osc.), so the net phase is zero or in other words ferrite mag.preamplifier output is hold balanse, real null. 1st step is nulling stimulus signal, multiturn sens potentiometer at maximum, very bright stimulus led and retune in opposite side untill the stimulus led is off.

This one is a point of maximum sensitivity but not useful because disbalance mag.preamplifier and led is bright. After finding correct position for magnetic preamplifier pcb and 1 turn coupler coil, passive receiver enter near zero net phase. Critic null point is achieved retining again sens potentiometer untill both leds off. This is a magic null point where lrl is extremely sensitive, To be known catch hold exact null is extremally difficult step, because we need electrical and geometrical balance in only one point at micron precision.

Halo effect from gold target or silver one, disturb mutual net phase eiher from stimulus (ferrite osc.) or ferrite LC tank or both. This avalanche disbalance act up amplitude rise at 2nd dc amplifier stage (rise voltage after diode rectification) and trigger audio beeper generator. Target detected.

Stimulus freq. 80KHz is probably (.99) correct for Esteban background, but sure not good for us at East Balkan.

Nulling could be at any frequency but not all frequencies carry on Halo effect signal. LRL detection belong to class of solving NP-hard problems. So only the real LRL masters like Alonso, Esteban, Geo, Morgan,... could bite up the real null.

"A Solid Roman gold coin signal is gone again! "


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Old 04-26-2018, 01:23 PM
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Hi Morgan

Any news from you ?

Come to south Serbia in my place at the mountain.
There are many old Roman settlements with lot of gold treasures untouched.
There is a lot of job for you and me.


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Old 08-25-2018, 12:06 PM
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Hello, master.
I made a PDK according to your circuit.
When it is ready, it will not work.
Does PDK still need to transmit the circuit?
How much is the diameter of your coil, how many circles are you using?
How did you debug it, please?
What is the data of your coil?
Please send a detailed picture of the machine you made.
And detailed data.
Can you give me detailed data for PDK?
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:20 AM
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Do you have a complete DIY PDK tutorial to build it.... many shematics many parts.... the conclusions are many too...

If someone had test somethink please inform - help me!!!

Thank you

*** I found too AlonsoPD Clode schematics here in thsi forum from Andreas.... worth to build it or not???
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:52 PM
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Not worthy of building
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:11 AM
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Not worthy of building
Why>?
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:53 AM
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Default mineoro Alonso prototype,square antenna

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Hi Morgan

have you tested this newest alonso pd with square aluminium loop.
tell me about real test results. do you have schematic and coil data for it.

regards
dragan

''Encontrado Corrente de ouro com Detector de Metais - Protótipo 26/08/2010''
https://youtu.be/uda9gjUEGgg

field test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVT0OWkwABc
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Old 05-21-2020, 04:42 PM
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Very Good , congratulation .
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Old 05-21-2020, 04:55 PM
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Why>?
is right

if you build it and dont have field test with PHENOMENON to try it, and the tuning of the passive receiver coil is made in front of the PHENOMENON,its the same as have all the ingredients and lost the recipe to make the cake...
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Old 05-21-2020, 05:01 PM
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Default PDK-2 tuning adjusts

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is right

if you build it and dont have field test with PHENOMENON to try it, and the tuning of the passive receiver coil is made in front of the PHENOMENON,its the same as have all the ingredients and lost the recipe to make the cake...
to tune the passive Receiver you need to step by step adjust the RX coil DISTANCE of the circuit until in a critical point it catch the objective, it shows high capacitance near the coil,

also what the people here didnt experience yet, the coil as a polarity,it works better turned to one side
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:29 PM
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Thank you my friend.

Morgan's PDK 2 and 3 are extremely sensitive LRL machines. So sensitive they can easy sense small spark from 1.5 batt. at 3,5-4m. I think it's possible much more but mandatory need full electronic tuning, not manual.

I have tested and at some points they both could detect human aura, or even human breath. Also could detect shadows of trees and much more.

Morgan's idea is genous. His secret modification give hyper amplification of several million times which is unavailable for any other classic configuration. Yes very hard to tune if you do it 1st time but is easy when you did it several times.

Worth building and playing with it. There are all informations needed, but you need to read between rows.

Good luck with PDK 4 Morgan. I hope you will public findings with that LRL.

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Old 06-22-2020, 02:15 AM
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Default PDK-3 tuning TDA for gold/silver resonance frequency

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Thank you my friend.

Morgan's PDK 2 and 3 are extremely sensitive LRL machines. So sensitive they can easy sense small spark from 1.5 batt. at 3,5-4m. I think it's possible much more but mandatory need full electronic tuning, not manual.

I have tested and at some points they both could detect human aura, or even human breath. Also could detect shadows of trees and much more.

Morgan's idea is genous. His secret modification give hyper amplification of several million times which is unavailable for any other classic configuration. Yes very hard to tune if you do it 1st time but is easy when you did it several times.

Worth building and playing with it. There are all informations needed, but you need to read between rows.

Good luck with PDK 4 Morgan. I hope you will public findings with that LRL.

Regards
Dubulumach
Hello, how are you ?

here one video show how to tune the PDK-3 with DCH variant + TDA for gold resonance, distances are much bigger when all circuits inside a wood box, the video was made for experience test on LRL hobby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eG...ature=youtu.be
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Old 06-22-2020, 02:23 AM
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there is no secrets, PDK-2 was put public, and PDK-3 is a DCH + TDA radio FM, the BIG FAYLURE on people here who try to build LRLs is:

THEY NOT HAVE FIELD TEST WITH GOLD AND SILVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE !!!!!!!!!!

many years ago, I buried this metals for tests,and I have more gold and silver buried in remote areas for more accurate tests on all kind of LRLs
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:22 AM
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Este morgan n?o ? o verdadeiro morgan!!🙊
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:25 AM
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group moderator this person is not who he really is
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PDK-3 mission accomplished, real longrangelocators
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Hello, how are you ?

here one video show how to tune the PDK-3 with DCH variant + TDA for gold resonance, distances are much bigger when all circuits inside a wood box, the video was made for experience test on LRL hobby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eG...ature=youtu.be

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The video link work , you have a local probleme
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Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eG...ature=youtu.be

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Old 06-28-2020, 12:51 AM
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I'm about 15 years on the forum .... my doubt and because morgam decided to be good.....:rolar os olhos::n?o n?o:
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