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Old 09-02-2007, 12:43 PM
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Hi Max,
I made no claims that thermal noise is light or not in this forum. I believe I read those words in your post.

The claim I made is I will believe what the Caltech professors say about infrared. Not what you say.
Do you still want people to believe this?

You may still call me a nonscientist if you want. I don't care

Best wishes,
J_P
Hi JP,
this is a stupid polemic I think. You can of course get IR radiations and other kind if e.g. you heat up a piece of platinum to 1000 °C but we are talking here of "light" emission or "IR" (always light but IR frequency) emission by e.g. metal bars at room temperature, for me room temperature is around 25°C not 1000.

Now if you energize the platinum bar at 1000 degrees is obvious you get a strong emission , with continuos spectrum, of e.g. IR photons.
Easy to detect this. Nothing new.

At 25°C the IR emission of a piece of platinum is near zero.
You have to count photons.

I talked about thermal noise cause thermal is the cause of the small emission of what you and Esteban are talking about here.

A piece of e.g. gold at 25°C give the same amount of IR photons of one my fart.
Or maybe my fart emit much more IR !

What you want detect that way ? My farts ?

That's the big picture. Have absolutely no meaning talking about of light or ir emission from metals at room temperature... cause a piece of plastic or a plant can emit thousand times more !

A small number of photons is generated by thermal and then ?
So what ?

Wanna use a photomultiplier-tube to see or count them ?

How to discriminate if an IR photon is generated by the soil itself, or a plant, or a piece of plastic, or a stone, or even some airborne particles ???

How that supposed IR photons could e.g. pass soil layers ? Have you asked yourself ?

Who talks of treasure emitting light want illude naives, I repeat again.

Caltech professors talk of things they can measure with costly machines and hi-technology devices, and they are right cause know physics.

I agree with them and know already that... Boltzman's experiencies are really old on the topic. Nothing new.

They can count even single photons emitted by my farts ! Can you !?
Or Esteban ???

How ? With garage-made detectors ?

C'mon... it's a stupid polemic you're doing here. You can't and Esteban also.

Treasure = energy for me have no meaning.

Or want really people belive that "Treasure=ENERGY"!

So read my radical assertion of "no emission" (that is wrong if you want split hairs) as "too small to be detected by you". Just this.

Kind regards,
Max
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