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06-30-2009, 08:18 PM
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Help for build one LRL...
Hi all friends...
Please help me to build one real LRL or Pistoldetector for remote sensing metals under the ground, I find some posts and picture in this site, but if possible let's share our knowledge to build one real good remote sensing device... I waiting for your nice ideas... with regards, vistac2000 
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07-01-2009, 01:08 AM
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good strategie, mjmj
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07-01-2009, 04:17 AM
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Vistac 2000,
Trying from what’s people share here . You cannot find completely circuit diagram With details , that finally you having remote sense device work really for you . Other idea, also study Carl remote sensing pages, some people said Lrods Work , try it ,maybe working with you . Best regards.
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07-01-2009, 05:27 AM
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Hi Dear aft_72005,
Thanks for your advice, I prefer build one LRL like Treasurescope that come in Carl pages, What about Treasurescope performance, and did it really works ? aft_72005, where are you from ?!!!  with best wishes, vistac2000
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07-01-2009, 05:46 AM
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It will be good to share our knowledge to build one real good remote sensing device. But before we share our knowledge, we must first know what "one real good remote sensing device" means. That is, what do you want this remote sensing device to do? You see, there are many kinds of remote sensing devices which perform different functions for finding metals under the ground. In order to provide the best help, we must first know exactly what you want the remote sensing device to do. For example, if you want a remote sensing device to locate a buried treasure, and indicate what the metal is at a range of 1000 meters, and you also want the remote sensing device to continue to point the way to the treasure until you know exactly where to put the shovel, and then tell you how deep you must dig,... then this machine has not been perfected yet. But there are other remote sensing designs. Some will give good readings a small percentage of the time, while others will give good readings more often. Some long range detecting machines will give better readings from a long distance than when close to the treasure. Others are only good at close range. So you see... we must know what you want the long range detector to do before we can give good advice. Since you ask "let's share our knowledge to build a real good remote sensing device..." maybe we should start with the technical information you will be sharing in this sharing session. This will help us to determine what is the best approach for you to build a remote metal sensing device. Can you tell us what you can contribute to the general knowledge of remote sensing of buried metals? p.s. Where are you from? Best wishes, J_P
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07-01-2009, 08:23 AM
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I told you not to waste time with lrl's!? Didn't i? Better buy...or build some gradiometer. I suggest you EPE gradiometer. Regards!
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07-01-2009, 08:28 AM
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Hi Dear J_Player,
Thank for your answer... as you say, I want build a remote sensing device to locate a buried treasure and I able to select what kind of metal I want to search such as gold or silver or ... now it can find metal at least 3-10 meter or more is better but at few 3-10 meter also is good enough ... I am one single and action girl that love computer and electronic and treasure hunting theory, unlike the most other girls...!!! I think there isn't any other girl in this site, thus take care me, dears... anyway, I study many posts and internet about remote sensing and I think we can locate metal under ground by natural resonance frequency of metals or determination of change earth magnetic field around the buried metals ... Please tell any other your ideas to begin a serious post about building remote sensing device... But about, where am I from ?!!! See my picture carefully, what is your guess ?  with best wishes, vistac2000 
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07-01-2009, 08:32 AM
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? ﻰﻌﻘﺍﻭ ‘ﺡﻴﺤﺼ ‘ﺕﺴﺭﺩ
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07-01-2009, 08:44 AM
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Hi ivconic,
If remember you broken my heart ,but... I still love you dear... also thanks for your advice ... with best wishes, vistac2000
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07-01-2009, 08:55 AM
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From time to time i can act like elephant in a glass store.
Sorry for that. Still i think it would be waste of time and energy to pay effort and trying to achieve any results with simillar lrl. You'll better take chance with gradiometer. I suggest you EPE project. Whole project was published in "Everyday Practical Electronics Magazine ", year 2004. july and august issues. Author is John Becker, my tribute to him! Hex code for PIC16F877 programming you can download from official EPE site. I gave some details here: http://hobidetektori.own0.com/ostali...metar-t425.htm So.... I wish you good things in life!
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07-01-2009, 09:06 AM
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Hi Vistac2000 About Treasurescope performance: I don’t know, saw some pictures at Turkish site. It is low frequency generator, I cannot found any scientific linkage between it and Long Buried metals. Also low frequency cannot circulate at the air by short antenna. Is it important that where I am here? Best regards.
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07-01-2009, 01:20 PM
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how you induct ,she ( or he ) is from Iran ? may be our dear friend detectoman said true “good strategie, mjmj”( because vistac 2000 picture is nice girl ) Also I am interest to learning from people faces . Best regards.
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07-01-2009, 02:27 PM
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I have alway liked to try to guess nationality by people faces, and as i travelled a lot when i was a young i suppose it helped. Of course if i am right a girl TH in Iran must be something extraordinary Quote:
 You sure hidden = dark side?
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07-01-2009, 02:29 PM
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I hear it in the '74 at 15... and I believe that from this time Pink Floyd me fascinated. But prefer the light, because one of my favorite theme is Set the controls of the Hearth of the Sun... but the performed in Pompei.
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07-01-2009, 03:40 PM
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07-01-2009, 05:11 PM
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Hi to all friends,
Let's to me introduce own, HORRAA for Fred!, YES my name is SOLMAZ and 29 y.o from IRAN, Iran is one ancient country with many of treasures within and also many beautiful girls , as aft_72005 says,Dear aft_72005, did are you from IRAN ?! anyway, Please don't astray from our aim, Dear ivconic said LRLs dont realy work and we must use gradiometer, Thanks Dear ivconic, Please tell me more about this device and it's performance and how to locate treasure under ground by it... with best wishes, vistac2000
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07-01-2009, 10:04 PM
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Solmaz, we have already spoken about your primary detecting focus. So i do know what you are up to. Considering that i suggested you a magnetometer. To me seems pretty logical solution. Gradiometer/Magnetometer is just suitable for locating larger anomalies in soil, like caves, graveyards, large metal deposits etc..etc..
What you need is fully understanding of gradiometer working principles and phylosophy. Depending of exact model, features can varry a bit, from model to model. But generally, if you learn principles, you will be able to operate and use any other model in future. For a start EPE projects seems most suitable. Instead me talking here about details and most probably confuse you even more with my not so always proper sentences - you better do surf the internet and do find hundreds of nice articles on that subject. You will learn and get good starting knowledge about gradiometers in generally. EPE is easy to be made. Collect material and make it. Only thing you must order from abroad would be Speake sensors. Not expensive at all. It is easy to work with EPE. EPE allows you 2 working modes. For a start; "Bar" mode would be most illustrative for you as a beginner. After couple of hours playing with "Bar" mode you will be able to successfully use another Screen mode. You just have to obey some rules there. Null it properly and respect correct walking paths with it and of course orientations in Record mode. Everything very good explained in John Becker article. I tested EPE skimly at my backyard. Can easilly locate tunnels up to 8 meters in soil. Large oil barrell (200l) can locate up to 5-8 meters also. Another friend who built it previously than me, from neighbor country, claims it has result with EPE even much better than my results. Large sewage tunnel (concrete and steel) he located cleary at 22 meters with EPE !!! Picture in Graph mode was very clear. Man is very serious, not liar and not charlatan so i do beleive his claims. Considering all this i assumed EPE would be most suitable tool for your needs. Also not so hard to make it. I already made 2 devices. So... go for it! I wish you easy job and lot of success after! Doset daram! (i remembered only this)
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, any way this is what’s you want .
Linear Mode
