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Last days I deal with the discovery of small treasure. I use L Rods or the generator with the rods. I located a point that also the two precedents shows me the existence of gold. Yesterday I used electrostatic field detector (it is use a long ferrite) and saw a strange phenomenon. In the particular space it gives me a very strong signal with direction from west to east. The same signal I take if I am moved 200m roughly left or right (north to south). I supposed that they is some magnetic field of ground and thus I went roughly 2 km more far. The detector does not detect any signal. Changed a lot of places once again the detector does not detect nothing.I went again in the particular point, and the detector again gave me a very strong signal.
Exists case the signal emanates from the treasure that I search? Can a small treasure of 1000th 2000 coins create a so much strong field and in so much big distance
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Very interesting , is l rods help you find that location ?
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…….. and if you are sure ,that location contain old gold coins , it is very good cause
For testing of remote sensing devices , pd or Lrods or ……
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Last days I deal with the discovery of small treasure. I use L Rods or the generator with the rods. I located a point that also the two precedents shows me the existence of gold. Yesterday I used electrostatic field detector (it is use a long ferrite) and saw a strange phenomenon. In the particular space it gives me a very strong signal with direction from west to east. The same signal I take if I am moved 200m roughly left or right (north to south). I supposed that they is some magnetic field of ground and thus I went roughly 2 km more far. The detector does not detect any signal. Changed a lot of places once again the detector does not detect nothing.I went again in the particular point, and the detector again gave me a very strong signal.
Exists case the signal emanates from the treasure that I search? Can a small treasure of 1000th 2000 coins create a so much strong field and in so much big distance
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Yes,thats true,you are making progress with your LRL devices.
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Last days I deal with the discovery of small treasure. I use L Rods or the generator with the rods. I located a point that also the two precedents shows me the existence of gold. Yesterday I used electrostatic field detector (it is use a long ferrite) and saw a strange phenomenon. In the particular space it gives me a very strong signal with direction from west to east. The same signal I take if I am moved 200m roughly left or right (north to south). I supposed that they is some magnetic field of ground and thus I went roughly 2 km more far. The detector does not detect any signal. Changed a lot of places once again the detector does not detect nothing.I went again in the particular point, and the detector again gave me a very strong signal.
Exists case the signal emanates from the treasure that I search? Can a small treasure of 1000th 2000 coins create a so much strong field and in so much big distance
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Not forget to see if in this place existe some kind of generator or electric powerlines. This can make the false signals. If not,so you found your treasure...
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Not forget to see if in this place existe some kind of generator or electric powerlines. This can make the false signals. If not,so you found your treasure...
No, there is not any electric power line shorter to 500 V. Now i made a modification at Iconos and next week i"ll go to detect the place with Iconos, Delta Pulse with 1x1 coil and the GTI2500. It is a good way to see if treasure or (what other it is), generate a so strong signal.
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Very interesting , is l rods help you find that location ?
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Yes. With the generator and a small 15W amplifier (20V output signal in the earth) i can detect from distance 500m very easy.
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Hi Geo
If assume, buried gold be able emitted , …what stuff emitted from it ??
What emitting from gold ? if emitted frequency ,we can measure and determine
It. only parallel tuning resonance, than amplifying it.
Can you examine this method at that area? If I know, then be able construct
Sharp directional tuned receiver for gold prospecting.
This is only idea !!!!!
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Yes. With the generator and a small 15W amplifier (20V output signal in the earth) i can detect from distance 500m very easy.
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you mean that without the generator you use l-rods and works at few distance (for you) but using l-rods+signal generator you gain 500m range ???

But Geo... which kind of generator are you using ? Isn't something like the Dell's omnitron thing ? I mean... you inject something square wave into the soil... just have 20Vpp at output ?

Personally I don't trust l-rods but maybe you're experienced with them or have some ability I haven't. I simply don't know, but the signal gen stuff seems interesting: how do you feel more detection range ? Just your idea or you actually found something that way ?

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If assume, buried gold be able emitted , …what stuff emitted from it ??
What emitting from gold ? if emitted frequency ,we can measure and determine
It. only parallel tuning resonance, than amplifying it.
Can you examine this method at that area? If I know, then be able construct
Sharp directional tuned receiver for gold prospecting.
This is only idea !!!!!
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uhm... I think it couldn't be such easy stuff. If that way any am RF receiver tuned to that frequency will do the job of locating gold at distance, but it isn't!

I think that (if something exist for real) it's not about a particular "frequency" but maybe some E-field variation around target: that will explain why many lrl are simple e-field detectors... but I simply can't see how they could be useful cause are too false signals addicted (randomic beeps).

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you better say what phenomenon make a electrical energy in a coil ?

be sure it's not ions as the some members said , the EM field make that and the ferrite is only for increase amplitude of detected EMF .

it's not for battery effect and corrosion of a buried metal , i found some especially ancient gold items (above 90% pure gold) that kept in a resistant and dry place (with no electrolyte) and they had very strong EM energy .

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I think that (if something exist for real) it's not about a particular "frequency" but maybe some E-field variation around target: that will explain why many lrl are simple e-field detectors... but I simply can't see how they could be useful cause are too false signals addicted (randomic beeps).


Hi Max
Ok, I offer to Geo this method because he found good condition area
For testing remote sensing tools.
Also I think seem you, so we assume buried gold, produced E-field,
Then for detecting static electrical field, we need moving
Ferrite antenna, until produce voltage at end of coil .
What is your suggest?
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What type tools you did use?
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I ask it before of Esteban ,in fix position sometimes signal disappear and sometimes it's permanent , it's no need to move the coil ( maybe it was from the very strong field and very slow shake of hand make the Electrical energy )
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Ok, I offer to Geo this method because he found good condition area
For testing remote sensing tools.
Also I think seem you, so we assume buried gold, produced E-field,
Then for detecting static electrical field, we need moving
Ferrite antenna, until produce voltage at end of coil .
What is your suggest?
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I think all metals except ferrous,produce this energy fields underground.
The ferrous metals are the same material as the Planet(big magneto) so they not produce some measurable DIFERENCE in energies,as result,LRL not locate the IRON,and IRON BOX can mask a gold target.
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you mean that without the generator you use l-rods and works at few distance (for you) but using l-rods+signal generator you gain 500m range ???

But Geo... which kind of generator are you using ? Isn't something like the Dell's omnitron thing ? I mean... you inject something square wave into the soil... just have 20Vpp at output ?

Personally I don't trust l-rods but maybe you're experienced with them or have some ability I haven't. I simply don't know, but the signal gen stuff seems interesting: how do you feel more detection range ? Just your idea or you actually found something that way ?


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Hi Max
Long time to see you
Without the generator, only with L rods i can locate some objects from 30, maybe and 50 meters. No good because i have a friend that can locate coins from 2 Km far !!!
With the generator i can take signal at my rods from500m very easy. I use sine signal 20v P-P. I use the Farnell PSG-1000a (remember i wanted the schematic, i repaired it) and a ampl with TDA 2030 at the output. All at 25.5 v DC.
Of course i found objects with the generator at long distance, but not every time accurary . Some times i put frequency for gold or coper i i find stones
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As Max said it is not so easy. I cant explain it
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you better say what phenomenon make a electrical energy in a coil ?

be sure it's not ions as the some members said , the EM field make that and the ferrite is only for increase amplitude of detected EMF .

it's not for battery effect and corrosion of a buried metal , i found some especially ancient gold items (above 90% pure gold) that kept in a resistant and dry place (with no electrolyte) and they had very strong EM energy .

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Hi. I agree with you absolute

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Interesting. Do you use with LRL rods?

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Interesting. Do you use with LRL rods?

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Hi Esteban.

L rods are the only way to work with generator signal. Here at Greece it is a often way to locate objects from long range. The problem is that when the object is very heavy and long long time buried..... we lose the center of the objects
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A photo from one test at the farm of a friend
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Hi Geo
At carl MFD article , at the earth probe did use ,coil.
Are you trying seem as Carl.
Please more inform me . also please upload more picture
In the matter.
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Carl put that coil in MFD as a joke , cause he doesn't believe the LRLs at all.

This EM field make all the EM detectors even PI detctors to find the treasure place easily , not as the Geo claim over 500 meter or 2KM , but under 50m is possible .
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Hi GEO

what's the signal frequency that you show on the scope ?

please send some pictures of your domplete device , Lrods & other components that you use .
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