THE FERRITE TREASURE SENSOR

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Electric emissions from long time buried metal are a result of ions formed in damp soil when combining with other compounds in the soil that can dissolve trace amounts of the metal. If gold is contained inside of an iron box, or a plastic box, or any other box that prevents the gold from coming into contact with the damp soil and the chemicals that can dissolve trace amounts of gold, then there will be no electric emissions, as there are no gold ions in the soil.

I would think the best way to overcome this is to bury the gold without any iron box to prevent it from contacting the soil and creating trace amounts of gold ions.*

*(This solution will work ONLY if the trace amounts of gold ions that dissolve into the damp soil become concentrated enough to create an anomaly in the soil that can be detected with an instrument that is capable of detecting secondary effects associated with the presence of these ions).

Best wishes,
J_P

Hello J_P

It seames you know a lot of secrets about metal in the ground...
My theory is :

1-THE GOLD AND SILVER ACUMULATE MUCH MORE ENERGY THAN OTHER METALS,when buried underground for many years.

2- THERE ARE MUCH MORE ELECTRIC EMISSIONS FROM THE BURIED NOBLE METALS THAN OTHER METALS.

3-The Pistoldetector is sensitive to changes of variations in ground electric field,so it can detect the ELECTRIC EMISSIONS coming from buried metals,becouse the PASSIVE RECEIVER WAS MADE TO CATCH THIS PHENOMENON.And this phenomenon you mention above,and for sure its cientificly proved...Your next step is start believe in some LRL devices

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by J_Player

A VLF detector is only capable of detecting things that will change the magnetic effects of the search coil. It does not detect any chemicals unless they can generate eddy currents that allow changes to the magnetic effects. The chemicals that are known to allow eddy currents to form are the metals that conduct electricity, such as copper, nickel, iron, aluminum, gold, silver, etc., and mixtures of these metals.

It is theoretically possible that when searching in non-conductive soil that has an area where there is an anomaly of very conductive soil, a VLF detector may be able to detect the conductivity change in this area of soil. This means the conductivity of the "conductive area of the soil" must be similar to the conductivity of a metal object. But I have not seen any testing results that demonstrated there are areas of "more-conductive soil" that were detectable with a VLF detector. The only exception is soil that has "hot rocks" or pockets of conductive sands in it, or in very iron-rich soil similar to the soil found in the Australian gold fields. These areas that have pockets of "more conductive soil" do not produce treasures, but only areas of conductive rocks and sands.

Best wishes,
J_P

You know why the pistoldetector catch this ELECTRIC EMISSIONS FROM BURIED METALS ? Becouse as the PASSIVE RECEIVER,circuit very sensitive to electric and electromagnetic fields.
And my theory is that the GOLD as much stronger electric emissions than other metals. The Gold acumulate much more energy ,but other metals acumulate and irradiate less energy.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

You know why the pistoldetector catch this ELECTRIC EMISSIONS FROM BURIED METALS ? Becouse as the PASSIVE RECEIVER,circuit very sensitive to electric and electromagnetic fields.
And my theory is that the GOLD as much stronger electric emissions than other metals. The Gold acumulate much more energy ,but other metals acumulate and irradiate less energy.

I have my doubts... As gold corrode (no corrode, except "low gold") less than other metals as bronze or copper, is more difficult to be detectable at distance, except if you can build device with high selectivity. Except treasure size or cache, small gold items are reluctance... Bronze and copper and even silver coins not pure (mixed with copper) are more "ease". With absorptive method found a silver 1797 Spanish coin (some "black" for the time), but just five times can be detected and fix the site. No more than 4 meters and depth 20 cm.

Regards

Esteban

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Finish and works great! Treasure can't scape of it! Is easy to mount in a plate (in this case, fiber glass), all are at hand. Radio is not use here, just amplificative stages.

Regards

Esteban

How can you tell gold from silver with this?
Can you pick up rings and how far?

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

How can you tell gold from silver with this?
Can you pick up rings and how far?

No at high distance, just 5 meters. Better for big items as treasure.

Now I replace magnetic speaker by piezo, this not disturb as speaker based on coil and magnet. Also consumption is lowest.

Now, I'll replace the audio amp of radio by circuit based on NE5534 or similar. This is just for to try ferrite.

Regards

Esteban

[maimoune]

hi Esteban
Very intersted
good luck

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Esteban

No at high distance, just 5 meters. Better for big items as treasure.

Now I replace magnetic speaker by piezo, this not disturb as speaker based on coil and magnet. Also consumption is lowest.

Now, I'll replace the audio amp of radio by circuit based on NE5534 or similar. This is just for to try ferrite.

Regards

Esteban

So, you will connect the ferrite directly to the 5534 ?????
Or you will use the first preamlifier with transistors??
Regards

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Esteban

No at high distance, just 5 meters. Better for big items as treasure.

Now I replace magnetic speaker by piezo, this not disturb as speaker based on coil and magnet. Also consumption is lowest.

Now, I'll replace the audio amp of radio by circuit based on NE5534 or similar. This is just for to try ferrite.

Regards

Esteban

If I got this you can pick up ring a 5 meters.
If this is so it can pick up Carl's 10oz gold bar.
THAT IS $25,000 YOU CAN GET.

[gef12]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Finish and works great! Treasure can't scape of it! Is easy to mount in a plate (in this case, fiber glass), all are at hand. Radio is not use here, just amplificative stages.

Regards

Esteban

Hey Esteban what country do you live in .. let me think it is the tropical region somewhere

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Geo

So, you will connect the ferrite directly to the 5534 ?????
Or you will use the first preamlifier with transistors??
Regards

I prefer 2 transistor pre connected to NE5534 or similar IC.

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

If I got this you can pick up ring a 5 meters.
If this is so it can pick up Carl's 10oz gold bar.
THAT IS $25,000 YOU CAN GET.

Thanks very much!

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by gef12

Hey Esteban what country do you live in .. let me think it is the tropical region somewhere

Since 3 days we have 44-45 ºC at sun, in the street, here in Paraguay, South America.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I prefer 2 transistor pre connected to NE5534 or similar IC.

Regards

Esteban

Good. For me is better to use a preampl all with transistors and in dc coupling. It has better slew rate !!! A good pre is the audio prelude from Elektor

Regards

[maimoune]

hello Esteban...

good job
I see your near to build an perfecte LRL

I would be the first to buy your devices

[nelson]

Gracias hermano, estamos en conracto.
Atte.
Nelson

Originally Posted by Esteban

No me olvido, solo que quiero también terminar cosas que empecé.

Saludos

Esteban

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Geo

Good. For me is better to use a preampl all with transistors and in dc coupling. It has better slew rate !!! A good pre is the audio prelude from Elektor

Regards

The prelude is the sintetizer or what? I remember it...

Regards

Esteban

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Esteban

The prelude is the sintetizer or what? I remember it...

Regards

Esteban

Hi Esteban
Not synthesizer, prelude ,name of amplifier article ,published
By elector magazine .also at far past.
Best regards.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi Esteban
Not synthesizer, prelude ,name of amplifier article ,published
By elector magazine .also at far past.
Best regards.

Thanks very much!

Best regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

This is the Prelude, +15/0/-15V

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

This is the Prelude, +15/0/-15V

Hi Esteban,
I read some older posts in this thread and seems you made a double ferrite antenna with a coil over one half, shield and cable... spacing 5mm.

OK, let me think you are talking about some VLF receiver , say some tens kilohertz, and remember me something already seen somewhere.

But what I do not understand is wich kind of signal you're looking for: 3 questions cover the topic I think at 100%.

Does the buried gold emits RF waves ?
Or the buried gold absorb some outside generated RF waves ?
Or the buried gold enhance/focalize some outside generated RF waves ?

If your device works, one of the above questions you must answer with "yes".

Otherwise I see no way that the device could work by means of being a pure RF / VLF receiver, no matter of "how" that action is performed.

Kind regards,
Max

[hung]

Originally Posted by Max

Does the buried gold emits RF waves ?
Or the buried gold absorb some outside generated RF waves ?
Or the buried gold enhance/focalize some outside generated RF waves ?

Max

I'm almost positive anybody in the remote sensing forum following this subject for years knows the answers for these simple questions.
Why not you?

'The truth is not out there'... It was always in here...
Sorry I couldn't resist.

[Fred]

Carefull Esteban, daddy is watching ...

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

I'm almost positive anybody in the remote sensing forum following this subject for years knows the answers for these simple questions.
Why not you?

Hmmmm...
I have been reading the remote sensing forum for years, and I don't know for certain how Esteban believes this ferrite machine works either. Specifically, I don't know what kind of signal Esteban believes his ferrite amplifier is responding to.

You have demonstrated yourself to be very knowledgeable about these things after explaining that an iron box shields emissions from long time buried gold. Since you're almost positive anybody in the remote sensing forum following this subject for years knows the answers for these simple questions, can you tell us exactly what Esteban's ferrite is responding to when near long time buried gold?

Best wishes,
J_P

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Esteban

This is the Prelude, +15/0/-15V

Hi Esteban
Yes, it is prelude amplifier .if I think true, also it was
With preamplifier. This is ,only amplifier.
Also in hi fi world, prelude had very good specification.
Best regards.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi Esteban,
I read some older posts in this thread and seems you made a double ferrite antenna with a coil over one half, shield and cable... spacing 5mm.

OK, let me think you are talking about some VLF receiver , say some tens kilohertz, and remember me something already seen somewhere.

But what I do not understand is wich kind of signal you're looking for: 3 questions cover the topic I think at 100%.

Does the buried gold emits RF waves ?
Or the buried gold absorb some outside generated RF waves ?
Or the buried gold enhance/focalize some outside generated RF waves ?

If your device works, one of the above questions you must answer with "yes".

Otherwise I see no way that the device could work by means of being a pure RF / VLF receiver, no matter of "how" that action is performed.

Kind regards,
Max

Originally Posted by hung

I'm almost positive anybody in the remote sensing forum following this subject for years knows the answers for these simple questions.
Why not you?

'The truth is not out there'... It was always in here...
Sorry I couldn't resist.

The hidden message in Hung's words is (since the answer is as obvious as the nose on your face) that you must be incredibly dumb to ask such a question.

Of course, "we" all know the real answer...