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Hello guys. please think twice about closed group proposal as this is one of the best LRL threads so far.. Actually besides Zahori this is only thread about true electronics in a bowels of a LRL device ...Geotech sceptics masterminds working on LRL project. I also understand Estebans concern - someone could steal hard work from you guys and I almost feel Whites and Garret engineers waiting for clues from this thread. 1:0 for LRL proponents thanks for nothing? But at the end I should say: keep up the good work even if it has to be secret.
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esteban, thanks for remember me in your invitation to closed group, i am, entusiast on long range detectores, yes
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Thank you to Morgan, Esteban, Max, Fred, Qiaozhi and all the others who contributed to this topic.
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I agree with you, for me I am not electrician and know nothing about electronics, but was following this thread to know the working theory cause I think it the same principal of mineoro DC2008 which I pay for it more than 5000$ and have no success yet. I think both mineoro and the pistol type have the same theory but the circuit is deferent, What to say, Esteban is the boss now. Regards, |
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I like flamengo...and you are right on the Rio based station... but there's another in Sao Paulo running at 1100KHz (MW) with amplitude modulation and 200KW rf power. Of course... this have no connection with this thread... was just my curiosity... you know...I like old radioworks so don't worry about my soccer interests... lets focus on hard stuff... like Esteban's proposal... I think it have sense: I'm sure there are people that visit this forum just to read posts and look at others work... or reverse engineered schematics... and all that without giving any hint , any useful contribute, any information ... just to make money and monkey business. Though Alonso didn't maybe patented his ideas, I don't care about that : if his ideas conducted to a working LRL principle we cannot spread them here for all vampires I've mentioned above to make money and laugh os us Also other peoples like Esteban have maybe invested so much time in that things that I feel right discussing that things in a closed subforum BUT this time people must really cooperate and provide just good information not disinformation bits like in the past. I think we could have good time that way and without making any wrong to Alonso and others folks. We are at a point where no real useful information was already given to replicate the device... so we can still do right now. What do you think ? Kind regards, Max
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I am not electronic, but I think they both work with HV, the deference is that in PDC is sparks in ionic champer, with pistol type I think there kind of tesla coil in the front part. just speculation. best regards, |
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Alright, although I respect Alonso a lot, the interest on this device grew with some exageration IMHO.
It can be seen in the video for instance, that it will only work for a certain target size from a very close range. Someting the PDCs, FGs, etc. will easily surpass. Due to Morgan's own 'propaganda' of the device, a crescent interest on it which initially I think it was natural, grew in a manner that made it to appear that this is in fact, the only 'working LRL' in existence making it look like the other Mineoro's detectors for instance, don't work. This is just plain absurd and false. Until recently I had the opinion he had not suceeded with his DC due to lack of expertise, bad calibration, or whatever... Now it's really plausible for me that all this thing could have been a set up for his own interest in replicating this particular device. All the negative propaganda with the Mineoro making him look like an exacting person and then a situation appears in which only one detector could do it. In fact, this propaganda was so intense that made the skeptics on this forum abandon right away the 'comercial group forum' created by Carl to develop better regular MDs. Something hillarious as they always stated LRLs are fraud. Can you imagine those guys now talking about Morgan's device with a high dose of seriousness and posing as credible researchers? Ha,ha,ha. Not even in my most unexpected dreams... Well, continuening, I know for a fact that it's very unlikely or even virtually impossible that he could not get a detection from all 3 mentioned Mineoro detectors, unless he did not wish it so. With vast experience in the field, specially in a mining area, I can safely say the signal would start at a minimum distance of 90 feet. He claims there were only sporadic beeps. I don't doubt it, but, besides not knowing all the details involved in his detectin procedure, this is the classic statement from who is not experienced in finding the best way/calibration to go over the target. The detector shown in the video might have a better pinpointing ability, as a natural evolution in relation to past inventions of Damasio/Alonso, but it clearly lacks the range. Maybe I'm wrong on all of the above about Morgan not suceeding with the Mineoros, but I have sufficient knowledge of my detector for instance to be absolutely not convinced of what he told. Naturally, many here are also still not convinced of my claims about PDCs, FGs, etc. It's their privilege too. Due to that, and in attention to some requests I always got, in the following days, I hope (as my own time and weather conditions allow) to feature a clip with the PDC in action. On it, I hope to demonstrate the device detecting targets which are far away which I normally use to gauge the ionic field intensity that particular day. Regards.
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Interesting opinions. Do you really believe anyone abandoned the commercial group forum?
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your problem is that Mineoro's don't work... and people know that... This was already proved by a number of tests and and reverse engineering on mineoro's devices. Our skeptic nature is a fact... but when me or someone else see a circuit and have time to spend for my hobby why don't investigate what were designer intentions, if there are true ability of detecting metals by it long range and what are real limitations of that approach? That's my point of view! I've built zahori... I've tested it...and it doesn't work as claimed... doesn't detect e.g. water flows... so then I know it doesn't work as claimed ! Easy. I'll belive only facts. So I have no problems at all ! Kind regards, Max
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Ozzy whatever your intentions might be, you have to be certain that you will not be getting 'lunch for free'. And maybe not even a paid lunch. PS. Don't abuse alcohol or food these hollidays.
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Nervous !? Take it easy... if we'll discover that pistol doesn't work ...ok... we'll make us a reason of that ! Not me only built the zahori... I remember you our great member Ivconic and also Michael built one. Unfortunately we cannot find anything with it... and it doesn't work as claimed with water flows. This is a fact. Anyone could build one and test, and see with his eyes and hear the random beeps you are so addicted! Tests on Mineoro's were performed all over the world... I personally belive to my friends and other people that say they don't work. Also other brand stuff , but similar, resulted completely wallet-mining operations with no one single documented found. About reverse engineering... do you mean the "ion chamber" made with PVC water pipe ? You say they work ! So what ??? Facts = 0. Kind regards, Max
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On the other hand, you have send an enormous amount of misinformation, technical nonsese and absurd claims, with absolutely no proof. Althought you seems to think we are all idiots here, we do have open minds, and when we see someone claiming interesting results and giving evidences of that, we investigate and discuss the subject. Not more complicated thant that. Fred. |
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I own the diodes model. There's a diode direct soldered to the pot. Any insinuations like that with sick attacks to a person's honesty just shows the rotten character that you own. This BS from people like you has gone too far already.
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Hi all!!!
Calm!!! No more attacks!!! I remember I post when Alonso, others and me found a gold watch at few meters of train rail. This was with the 2006 model and confirmed by the 2007. Distance was superior than this Morgan's device. In this scenario was Alonso, the landlord (an aviator), Hassan and me. The first detection was at night. The detection no was very precisse at the night because the air and the grass was very humid. Wait at the next day with good weather and we can centrate easily the watch. |
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Thanks for confirming what all sucessful Mineoro owners have always known. As I said, they don't need to come here to tell this. They are busy in the field. I'm also a sucessful user, but who is unfortunate enough to deal with some people like the ones you know here. Well... I guess all forums are like that.. For those who still did not suceed for whatever reason this might be, I know this is just a matter of time (and hard research!) .
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So, the fact that you are here, implies that you are not busy in the field.
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Perhaps I can only speculate on your motives, but the methods of determining the recent false information you released can be checked by anyone who wants to find out if it is false or not. Please don't take these answers to your request as an attack. They are simply answers to help you identify what false information you have recently released. Best wishes, J_P |
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