MD as long distance

[Esteban]

US$ 25,000 or 50,000 no make rich anybody (less very rich), yes information for commercial exploitation, regarding Andreas. Great Andreas!

[Esteban]

Pics since 1978 to today. There are more!

Gotcha Esteban!
You are satisfied and made a lot of money......selling those to naive customers (aka ignorants....imbeciles...)...
Come to think again....you didnt wasted all those years! Bravo!
Outfit (of device) sells much better than quality!!!
Now i understan your satisfaction! Bravo!

[Seden]

Robert,

Listen up to what Andreas is trying to tell you and quit with the personnel attacks . I'd like to hear your technical ideas,how about it? I'm sure you've got some pet project you'd like to contribute or share you techical expertise with us.

Randy

Seden, those are not personal attacks at all! i do know Esteban very well and i appreciate him much. You are just to stupid to understand that!
Again independent advocates shown up here to protect somebodys rights???
About other....you should try to read every thread here and see that there is some history in our relations...on long terms...
Wish u more brains..!

[ANDREAS]

I continue. I have tryed the all models mineoro here in Greece. NO ONE DOES NOT WORK , EXCEPT mineoro M80 metal detector TWO BOX. Certain years acquired spoiled instrument from Russia military model. Afterwards servis, I saw it works very well . This they was reason I deal with long range detectors. They is many that are not published also many that know few and naturally have mouth closed. I try to keep only right level in forum. Only a advice. Search in old good technology, it has many more offer from modern chips and proccesors. Long range metal detector they is reality (no LRLs ). Make simply a effort .

Bravo Andreas! Now you are talking!
I am very sorry for suspecting you as "mineorogreece"! Excuse me!
Just keep that way man!
Best regards!


Now, small picture for Esteban...my friend!

[ANDREAS]

O.K Robert, always friends . But, I inform you that, long range detectors slowly - slowly they become reality. My friend Esteban tries despite a lot and I know very well that.... he has the success very near. Try always also you, HOWEVER WE RESPECTED ALL EFFORTS.
P.S One tips. I student mineoro techology 10-12 years. Now I am sure the problem is calibrations. If we can calibrate ( very - very difficult) this circuit work very well . Very near I put here (forum) photos my projects
regards

[defineci35]

Hi ESTEBAN,
kindly enlarge the pictures you posted, I am willing to build it and experience what you have experienced in the field. I am serious ok.

"...Try always also you, HOWEVER WE RESPECTED ALL EFFORTS...."

I can respect any effort too. It is not about efforts...it is about very brave claims here. 70m on coin...!?

I am not just an "empy talker"....i tried also in the past. Not possible!

Maybe i dont have enough open mind....? But as you see, i am not only here...Many others like me, do not founded any benefits in those....
I am just joker here. If we want to talk seriously....i can only tell you - no way to detect coin at 70m....no way! Not even possible at 70cm...!
regards!

[Esteban]

Hi friends.

Andreas is making serious modifications. Also he know that long range detection is real, is a fact.

Robert, I'm not speaking here about possibility or not, I try to said you and OTHERS that is a fact!

Robert, is true, 70 m for a coin at small depth. With a BFO type in combination with RF detector found a copper mass 120 X 60 cm (very great item) at 50 m and depth 1 m. Generally, this MD as pistol is two detector in one. Believe me, I saw real long range detection by master in it, for example, the big box based on AM radio and transmitter was capable to detect a gold medal at 500 m, so my merit is very poor, only 70 m. The normal is 7-10 m in another systems and via coil absortion (pure receiver) only 3-4 m.

Robert, Andreas is not Mineorogreece and I not comercialize ANY type of machine, I'm investigator with good results sometimes, sometimes changing the circuits or principle... nothing obtain. Also I'm fighting for to obtain better.

The theme is to try the things that the rest negates or never try or don't want to try. Also, if the people start with prejudices, they will be obtain nothing. As there are not literature or principle in wich learn, automatically the theme become in "things of witchs".

[Seden]

Andreas,

Any chance you could email me?

r.seden@sbcglobal.net


thanks,

Randy
U.S.A.

"...The theme is to try the things that the rest negates or never try or don't want to try.
Also, if the people start with prejudices, they will be obtain nothing. As there are not
literature or principle in wich learn, automatically the theme become in "things of witchs"..."

First thing comes to my mind, reading these lines....Nikola Tesla, man who discovered many
good things, yet almost always rejected from public opinion at that time. He has a lot of
difficulties to "push" some things forward.
So, you Esteban, might be right....If your work give any real result in future, than you'll
be not only moral winner here but much more. But do not forget one important thing;
Nikola Tesla was one in a million. On million charlatans only one genius! Also there is one
thing more, the fact;
White's,Garrett,Fisher,Minelab,Cscope.....and many more. They are fighting constantly for the
market. They have ee teams, working so many years, very conversant.....how come they didnt
achieved anything even closer to your "results" ???? Are you one in a million, or Andreas???
With full respect to both of you!
I am ee (not necessairly important) for over than 25 years. You are talking mostly about things
i've been working as proffessional all those 25 years! You are mentioning some things like BFO,
RF, receive,transmit,antennas...Did i miss something here? Did i miss anything in those 25 years?
Among other things...there is Physics with its laws. I am just respecting what i learned at my
study and later in work...All you've been talked about is confronting to laws in Physics...
And there is another thing;
how the hell, you imagine, your claims to be accepted here or anywhere in public, if you do not
want to prove anything, to show in public what is all about...???
You should follow steps of many other enthusiasts and constantly present your work in public.
Show some schematics, explain your work.Let other people to be able to reproduct your experiences!
Do not tell us here about "secrets", copyright, stolen projects...etc.etc. Besides, you dont have
anything to worry about. This forum is document itself! A very strong proof about date and time
when and who posted something unique and original. You can always use this forum as proof
that you are original founder of something....This is new era, electronic era. You dont need
"papers" to save your work from others.
Nobody will still you nothing. As far as i been here, i saw nobody get rich on somebodys else
ideas....I know ivconic, he made over 200 devices so far....still he is poor man, living very
modesty...He didnt busted White's, making so many copies of Classic 3....
Look Carl Moreland....he made Hammerhead (i dont like it, yet excellent PI detector)...he didnt
busted PulseStar or Lorenz.....or not to mention Eric Foster!?
Look Sean Goddard....he didnt busted Tesoro or Fisher with his work here.
Point is;if you want to be accepted seriously, come here with real provable facts! Show us real
thing! Give up of just empty claims. Empty,funny yet very brave claims....backuped with no
real background like project itself including schematic,explanations..examples...
I made a lot of jokes on you and others here.Simply i am joker. Sometimes i cross borders of
good behavior. Sometimes i am not descent. But that doesnt mean that i do not respect you and
others here. I just want to provoke you people to start thinking right! Do not act like
children here, be serious in you claims. If you dont want to share your "secrets" here, than
dont make any fantastic claims, or you be laughed constantly....
Like Hung. "Mineoro this...Mineoro that...." At the same time some people wasted money on
mineoro devices and than realized that it was fraud!? Who's gonna take Hung seriously any
more? In future? Hung just have to wait, time to pass, people to forget...and than to show up
again here and to continue to advertise scum and frauds to newbies here...New victims...

If your devices are working for you, for real, than OK. Be happy! Dont worry! If you want to
persuade other people here in that, than you have to offer some concrete proofs!
No wonder Carl offered $25000......He is not stupid, doing that.....Anybody have guts to
take offer....? Ha?
Think twice Esteban...

[ANDREAS]

I believe that, I am not…. big electronic. Simply “I saw” something completely accidentally that gives possibility of detection in big distance. All my efforts have complete success. Exist ofcourse restrictions, other try. See however the things different. Perhaps the solution they is very near and you don't see him. I repeat I don't believe dowsing because I cannot measure NOTHING-NOTHING!!!. When however it can messurement a change electric - magnetic from a strange connection, then, you believe exists solution. When you see models mineoro here Greece t don't work also my friend it went Brazil, a lot of years before, it bought and found alone a ring, I repeat alone and this model does not work here… something HAPPENS!! Something becomes…. They is reason you search still more and this I make. Sorry we cannot make report in way of operation in order to you occupy. I repeat, you search old good analog electronic theory. There is solution.....
regards

OK Andreas, give us proofs here,now!


P.S. my blind grandma once founded gold ring by crazy accident....so should be this rule for every who is blind or just crazy accident?

[Qiaozhi]

Yes - my wife found a gold ring in our garden while digging, but previous searches with different metal detectors found nothing valuable. Maybe she is a "long range locator" for gold? I doubt it! Personally I think it was just an accident.

To Esteban - Robert is correct. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You seem convinced that your homemade LRLs are able to locate gold, silver, etc., at great distances, but you need to supply some objective evidence and not just the subjective stuff you've given us so far. I've already asked this previously - but you ignored my request - how about posting a schematic of an LRL that you claim is working? Then we (Robert, myself and others) can build it and judge for ourselves. Otherwise it is pointless to make unsubstantiated claims.

[Esteban]

Some devices are mine (the very less) and other of my "teacher", so for respect toward my teacher can't post any schematic. I learn of him and he only reveal me a part.

For example, these are evidences (as those pics of 1980 I have 100, include in sequences...). If you can't build a rocket and travel to the Moon, you accept as evidence the photos of NASA...

If you wish stay refractary in this theme, is your problem, no mine. With good intentions I put here. Open your eyes.

[Alexismex]

Esteban , did you know what is 500 meters it is mosly like a FIVE FOOTBALL GAME PLACE for a gold medail ...Men!!!! Crazy men!!! it is the same with 70 meters for a coin , PLEASE PUT YOURS FEET IN EARTH because this forum is not for joke (chiste) it is for learning and creativity with physics and electronics all sort of serious knowledge...in metal detectors

[Esteban]

Ahhh! You're the master in physics, etc., and I'm the crazy! Good!
Have you experimented this? No! Your judgement is under your own experience in it!

Aclaration: I'm not the creator of the extreme long range detector!

[evit]

Ok robert and everyone else I will give you a hint about what these Guys are talking about in Long range detection,which I believe is real since it is very common in physics,
Read below
Schumann Resonance?
The "Schumann Resonance" is a resonance frequency that exists in the Earth's "electromagnetic" cavity; i.e. it exists between terrestrial surface and ionosphere. German physicist W.O.Schumann first detected the resonant properties of this terrestrial cavity in 1954. It may be said that the Schumann Resonance is a breathing phenomenon of the Earth that is lasting from old time. The lowest-frequency and highest-intensity mode of the Schumann Resonance is at a frequency of approximately 7.83Hz.
Human and all animals and plants have been guarded by this frequency of 7.83Hz and lived for long time. But recently, many unnatural radio waves and electromagnetic waves disturb this frequency of 7.83Hz, it have caused wrong influence on our human bodies.

This is the secret.This is what makes all metals emit very fast pulses which you cannot measure.When you make this kind of receiver and tune it for the metal you want to find and make it directional you will see what happens.And also the intensity of these pulses vary during day and night.That is why it is very difficult to build it.
So dont act as if you know everything.And also dont think that if someone does build this kind of receiver , he will ever give you the circuit readily after a lifetime of research.This phenomenon exists so dont doubt it.Instead research.That is what Esteban ,Andreas, and many other people are doing.

"..Schumann Resonance?..."


One of main thesis in my magistrate (27 years ago) was Schunamm principle....????
Now you are talking me about that???
Pfffoooof!!!

[Esteban]

"..Schumann Resonance?..."


One of main thesis in my magistrate (27 years ago) was Schunamm principle....????
Now you are talking me about that???
Pfffoooof!!!

I want to see the thesis or part of it, if isn't a secret.

Please, do you can scan a part of it (the part when is your name, of course. Ahh! maybe your name is a secret, RObert!)

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Some devices are mine (the very less) and other of my "teacher", so for respect toward my teacher can't post any schematic. I learn of him and he only reveal me a part.

For example, these are evidences (as those pics of 1980 I have 100, include in sequences...). If you can't build a rocket and travel to the Moon, you accept as evidence the photos of NASA...

If you wish stay refractary in this theme, is your problem, no mine. With good intentions I put here. Open your eyes.

There is good evidence available that NASA actually did go the moon, and any nonsense that states otherwise is just ... well .... plain nonsense. I do not need to build a rocket to prove this to myself, or anyone else. BUT as far as LRLs are concerned - this is not rocket science. Clearly you have managed to build something, and (if this stuff really works) then a simple schematic would dispel any doubts. Let's say you post something that can detect a coin at 10m. Forget 70m, or even 500m, and in fact I would even settle for 2m. This would just be a proof of concept.
Personally I'm not holding my breath, and fully expect my request to be sidestepped as before.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Let's say you post something that can detect a coin at 10m. Forget 70m, or even 500m, and in fact I would even settle for 2m. This would just be a proof of concept.

Settle for 2m? I would prefer to see a design that will work to 4m, as this is enough for me to claim Carl's $25,000. If it works for 4m, then I could use the winnings to pay for the round trip to the test site and even to even buy Carl and all the spectators dinner and lots of Budweiser! ... and I would have way more than enough money left over for buying the remaining parts I need to finish building the "amazing Robertoro guaranteed-to-work" electronic treasure finder. Dang, maybe I could go on to claim the $1 million Randi prize...!!

Yaaa Babyyyy!!

Esteban, you must be a joker!?

Still no proofs, still laic opinions and funny claims...

I'll be back! (Terminator)