Mineoro tests: What's really going on

[hung]

Hey gaucho, I'll include you in my next expedition. But only if you serve me a good 'chimarrão' to drink.

Mosha, as I said, it's just a matter of time before you or any Mineoro detector owner find gold. But bear in mnd you need hard work. If you don't ever go to the field, don't expect to find anything. So don't be an 'armchair researcher'.
Just to encourage you. I know 2 people who own DC2008s and both are sucessful. One of them is my friend here in Brazil. He lives close to the beach in the northeast region. In this beach, in a particular spot in a shallow pond naturally built with salt water, the DC always gave insistent beeps. He decided to dive there and he found 20 (!) gold rings lost during a long period of time. That's what I call a true treasure ring (beach)...

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by mosha

thank you gaucho1961

I have DC2008, I do not know if it work same as the principle of DCH85, but I will concidre your advices and hungs' as well.

hung;

我能理解中國人也.

In that case, try this ->

[gaucho1961]

It translates into English...
I am curious....Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Great Hung friend,
Is clearly that I go to serve a good CHIMARRÃO (drink tipical of the south of Brazil), folloied of a good CHURRASCO (tipical food, barbecue)...
Where I dig????... where I dig?????? here???? here??????
I believe that only thus I could be together in this expedition... Hahahahaha!!

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by gaucho1961

It translates into English...
I am curious....Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Great Hung friend,
Is clearly that I go to serve a good CHIMARRÃO (drink tipical of the south of Brazil), folloied of a good CHURRASCO (tipical food, barbecue)...
Where I dig????... where I dig?????? here???? here??????
I believe that only thus I could be together in this expedition... Hahahahaha!!

You wrote "I am also able to understand Chinese people." - although you used traditional characters. But you are unable to read my reply?
I suspect Babel Fish was at work here...

[mosha]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

In that case, try this ->

well Qiaozhi, if you want me to comunicate with you chinese, write in text not image so I can translate by google

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by mosha

well Qiaozhi, if you want me to comunicate with you chinese, write in text not image so I can translate by google

As I suspected...
Mei guanxi. You can even use pinyin if you like.

[Carl-NC]

Experiment #3.

I have a signal generator with a frequency range of 300kHz - 2GHz. In addition, it can apply AM & FM modulation to the signal. I connected the output to a crude dipole antenna and held the FG80 about a foot away, with sensitivity set to 300.

I started at 1MHz and increased the frequency up to 100MHz in 1MHz increments. There was no response. Knowing that 100MHz is in the middle of the FM radio band, I enabled FM modulation, with no response. Out of curiosity, I switched to AM modulation, and the FG80 responded at a very close range (an inch or so). I then adjusted the carrier frequency until I found a peak sensitivity at 235 MHz, where the FG80 would respond at a distance of 21 inches. As soon as AM modulation was removed, the FG80 ceased to respond.

I continued up in frequency and found a much larger peak at 295 MHz, where detection was easily 4 feet. Other minor peaks occurred at 480MHz and 730MHz, where detection was 15-20 inches. In all cases, detection distance varied with sensitivity setting, and only when AM was enabled.

This test shows that the FG80 easily detects a 295MHz AM signal. What is special about this frequency? It turns out that 295MHz is commonly used for remote controls, such as garage door openers. Furthermore, these remote controls commonly use ASK (amplitude shift keying), which is nothing more than amplitude modulation.

This kind of detection is not something that easily happens by accident. The FG80 must have a circuit that is optimally tuned to 295MHz, must have an AM detector that triggers the beeper, and the sensitivity of this detector must be under the control of the FG80's sensitivity knob. All of this points to the deliberate design of an AM receiver circuit.

Though I have yet to open the FG80, I previously reported that inside a PDC205 I found a regenerative receiver circuit connected to a PCB loop antenna. This is precisely the kind of circuit that can be used to receive AM signals.

- Carl

[Esteban]

The Mineoro loop is connected to a primary of a toroidal core (1 or 2 turns of simple cable) and secondary coil tune in the khz region. The correct way for to appreciate in wich frequency it is tune is connecting a simple coil to a low frequency generator:

[hung]

Well, looks like Carl is still playing with his toy like a kid.

Just an advice for him. When ( and if ) he does decide to research in the field, make sure to do it between 9 and 11 AM and from 2 till 6 PM. Those are the best times for detecting when the phenomena happens the most.

Crespin dos Santos told me a couple of weeks ago he and his team had to wait from 8 AM till 10 AM, resting under a tree for the phenomena to manifest so he could mark the exact spot they had detected days before.
By the way, I tried to reach him yesterday to get some more inputs about his use of the FG80 with GIG for fresh gold, but I was told he traveled to Santa Catarina to locate gold for a contractor. So, I don't know wheter I'll be around when he gets back as I will soon leave for a recovery procedure and a research on another location.

Hey Esteban, I really admire your kind gesturesand concern for teaching those guys here.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Well, looks like Carl is still playing with his toy like a kid.

Eventually you've said it!
In your own words, it's a "toy".

Originally Posted by Carl

This test shows that the FG80 easily detects a 295MHz AM signal. What is special about this frequency? It turns out that 295MHz is commonly used for remote controls, such as garage door openers. Furthermore, these remote controls commonly use ASK (amplitude shift keying), which is nothing more than amplitude modulation.

This kind of detection is not something that easily happens by accident. The FG80 must have a circuit that is optimally tuned to 295MHz, must have an AM detector that triggers the beeper, and the sensitivity of this detector must be under the control of the FG80's sensitivity knob. All of this points to the deliberate design of an AM receiver circuit.

And sure enough, here's just the device required to remotely trigger an FG80: http://www.contractorstools.com/sentex_clikcard.html
It works at either 295MHz or 303MHz. Not only that, but the receiver box even resembles a certain ionic detector. Perhaps this is where Mineoro got the idea in the first place.

[hung]

http://www.mineoro.com/goldDetectors/finding_mexico.php

Money talks, BS..... Ssshhhhhhh.

[hung]

Ironies of fate...
Mexico...
While Alexismex ruins his detector, his comrade (logically) uses it to find gold...

Quoting James Taylor..
'Oh Mexico, guess I'll have to go now'(on a whistle)

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

http://www.mineoro.com/goldDetectors/finding_mexico.php

Money talks, BS..... Ssshhhhhhh.

More fairy tales from Hans Christian Hung

A fairy tale is a fictional story that usually features folkloric characters (such as Damasio and Alonso - although fairies, goblins, elves, trolls, witches, giants and talking animals may also be included) plus enchantments, and often involving a far-fetched sequence of events.

Goodnight children, and sleep tight.

[hung]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

More fairy tales from Hans Christian Hung

A fairy tale is a fictional story that usually features folkloric characters (such as Damasio and Alonso - although fairies, goblins, elves, trolls, witches, giants and talking animals may also be included) plus enchantments, and often involving a far-fetched sequence of events.

Goodnight children, and sleep tight.

Hey, I really feel sorry for you. Wake up! You got far out of hand.
Despite reports of sucess also by Esteban, Gaucho, an iranian which I don't recall the name who's the owner of a DC2008, I, and others, to mention only forum members, you still keep playing an autist, away from reality and clearly falling into ridicule here.
Unless you think all of us are lying. And if this is the case you have a serious behaviour disturb which prevents you from trust anything and anyone.
But if you just enjoy fooling yourself even after people's testmonies...
Well, either way your case is medical.

[Clondike Clad]

Carl is very good with electronocs and he can't get his FG80 to work.
Why is this sowhat is going on with the 295mhz and AM.

[hung]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Hung why carl can't get his F80 to work?????

Because he refuses to take it to the field. The detector will beep where there's long time buried gold. His FG80 is working fine.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Hey, I really feel sorry for you. Wake up! You got far out of hand.
Despite reports of sucess also by Esteban, Gaucho, an iranian which I don't recall the name who's the owner of a DC2008, I, and others, to mention only forum members, you still keep playing an autist, away from reality and clearly falling into ridicule here.
Unless you think all of us are lying. And if this is the case you have a serious behaviour disturb which prevents you from trust anything and anyone.
But if you just enjoy fooling yourself even after people's testmonies...
Well, either way your case is medical.

This is just subjective evidence and proves nothing.
Clondike Clad is correct. Carl is unable to get the FG80's beeping to correlate to a real target - not even the gold sample supplied with the device.
If you believe that this so-called "ionic detector" is capable of detecting longtime buried gold, you are sadly deluded, particularly since these ions do not even exist. They are purely a figment of your overactive imagination and pseudoscientific closed mindset.
May I suggest you enrol on a remedial course in basic physics.

[Carl-NC]

Hung,

I decided your suggestion of meeting up with Dell for a field test isn't a bad idea. A "Treasure Expo" in Florida is in the works, and Dell has told the organizer that he will be there and even give presentations.

I also agreed to attend, and give a seminar on detector technology. Plus, I thought it would be an opportunity to finally meet Dell, and even take the FG80 for some real field work. Hopefully, I can get Dell to join me.

This will happen in August. Meanwhile, I have some other testing planned.

- Carl

[Leto]

Originally Posted by hung
Because he refuses to take it to the field. The detector will beep where there's long time buried gold. His FG80 is working fine.

Carl please strech your legs and take a hike to the cementary (graveyard) - there should be >long time buried gold<.. at least some jewlery or gold protetic teeth.

Or maybe gold on human remains does not leech ions??

[hung]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Hung,

I decided your suggestion of meeting up with Dell for a field test isn't a bad idea. A "Treasure Expo" in Florida is in the works, and Dell has told the organizer that he will be there and even give presentations.

I also agreed to attend, and give a seminar on detector technology. Plus, I thought it would be an opportunity to finally meet Dell, and even take the FG80 for some real field work. Hopefully, I can get Dell to join me.

This will happen in August. Meanwhile, I have some other testing planned.

- Carl

Great. At last.
Nice to hear you will meet Dell. I feel like being the culprit to this 'marriage'
Drop me a gold nugget by mail if you happen to find many...
Good luck.

[Dell Winders]

I can't trust anything this guy says. It's a setup.
Carl Moreland, is the reason I WON'T be attending the meeting in August. Dell

[J_Player]

Hahahahahahaaaa...

Now this is starting to get funny. Carl starts his series of tests on the FG80, then Hung whines that he's not testing it right. Next Hung references propaganda posted on the Mineoro site and another site that sells Mineoro to prove it works. He even references Esteban to prove the Mineoro works, while Esteban claims the Mineoro is inferior, and he found his treasures with machines he built himself. Hahahahaaa.

Now, that Carl finally decides to subject the FG80 to the conditions that Hung demands, Dell Winders weasels out cause he's afraid Carl will demonstrate the LRL BS is bogus. Are the LRL manufacturers askeert of real engineers? Did Carl scare off Dell Winders?

Don't it make you wanna go out and buy a Mineoro or Omnitron right away?

[Dell Winders]

Sorry, I don't know any locations where Gold is buried at the meeting place. I have never been there.

I only had a couple of hours to test the FG-80. Carl, has had months. If he is too stupid to learn to use it in that time, there is nothihg I can do to help him. Even a scientific pretender should be able to turn on a switch and tune a dial. I'll bet with a couple of bananas as an enticement even you could learn to do it.

[J_Player]

Is the LRL manufacturer changing his story?

Original reason:

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Carl Moreland, is the reason I WON'T be attending the meeting in August. Dell

New reason:

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Sorry, I don't know any locations where Gold is buried at the meeting place. I have never been there.

I only had a couple of hours to test the FG-80. Carl, has had months. If he is too stupid to learn to use it in that time, there is nothihg I can do to help him. Even a scientific pretender should be able to turn on a switch and tune a dial. I'll bet with a couple of bananas as an enticement even you could learn to do it.

Err... Dell,
In the past months Carl followed the manufacturer's instructions and discovered the FG80 did not detect gold as advertised. Then he began following the instructions from Hung, which are different than those from the manufacturer, and still could not detect gold. Finally, there is an opportunity for a LRL expert to show him how to locate gold per Hung's demands, and the best advice you can come up with is to use bananas for a training aid.

Hahahahahahaaaa. Sounds real dang scientific Dell. I think yer just skeerta being exposed by a real engineer.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I can't trust anything this guy says. It's a setup.
Carl Moreland, is the reason I WON'T be attending the meeting in August. Dell

Absolutely brilliant! This is so funny!
Why am I not surprised?

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Sorry, I don't know any locations where Gold is buried at the meeting place. I have never been there.

Whatever happened to your armchair dowsing activities? Oh sorry, I meant mental map dowsing. Surely you can identify some likely locations without leaving home?

Originally Posted by hung

Great. At last.
Nice to hear you will meet Dell. I feel like being the culprit to this 'marriage'
Drop me a gold nugget by mail if you happen to find many...
Good luck.

Hung - perhaps you should go instead, since Dell has wimped out. In a way, I don't blame Dell for not wanting to do your dirty work for you.

Must go now - I'm laughing so much, I think I've soiled myself...