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Old 08-13-2017, 12:34 PM
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I do not understand what you mean to do, the 470k / 22k ratio establishes the operational gain, what is the switch for?
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:51 PM
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I do not understand what you mean to do, the 470k / 22k ratio establishes the operational gain, what is the switch for?
For turning on the device
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:59 PM
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For turning on the device
I do not see any picture.
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:09 PM
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I do not see any picture.
I can't upload pictures, I don't know why. So my question is to put switch for turning on and off the all unit. Its better for me to not put additional switch, I want one of the potentiometers to be with switch. Which one is better to be with switch?
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:21 PM
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Hi ford,

Lrls can reveal gold, silver, copper and their alloys as long as they have been buried for some time and are insensitive to iron and steel. You have to have a test field where you have to bury some objects like silverware or coins at a depth of about 20 cm and wait 3/4 weeks (or more depending on the type of terrain).


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Thank you France
I will do it.
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Old 08-13-2017, 05:33 PM
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I can't upload pictures, I don't know why. So my question is to put switch for turning on and off the all unit. Its better for me to not put additional switch, I want one of the potentiometers to be with switch. Which one is better to be with switch?
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It's not a good idea, every time you turn it on, you have to find the right setting. It is better to have a separate switch. Anyway 470K or 22K is the same thing.

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Old 08-13-2017, 05:41 PM
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Ok, thanks for answer. I purchased this pcb from this document. Does someone has made this device with this pcb?
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:12 PM
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I think Franco pcb is better.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:27 PM
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Franco has explained that his pcb has it's own capacivity which plays role in the whole circuit...
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:33 PM
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To use Franco pcb is best way with minimum risk, but nowhere here I couldn't find display stage pcb with 3 led. Because that l purchase this pcb, so we'll see the results. By the way I want to ask administrators why I can't upload.pictures.
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:30 PM
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Kaligula i have sent you private message.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:49 PM
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Kaligula i have sent you private message.
I can't find it. Send it to my email or write here
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:20 AM
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We are starting. I'll gonna make it with transistors BC183L, I
couldn't find BC183C, is it some problem?
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:56 AM
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We are starting. I'll gonna make it with transistors BC183L, I
couldn't find BC183C, is it some problem?
All transistors as BC...C, work, "C" is for very high beta (gain). Probably BC ... B types also work. You can measure the transistor beta with the tester, values over 500 are fine.
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:55 AM
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All transistors as BC...C, work, "C" is for very high beta (gain). Probably BC ... B types also work. You can measure the transistor beta with the tester, values over 500 are fine.
It supposed to be OK, it is declared as 900
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:06 PM
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It supposed to be OK, it is declared as 900
BC183LC is in the range 450 - 900

BC183LB is in the range 240 - 500

BC183L doesn't exist, it must be LA or LB or LC
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:23 PM
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BC183LC is in the range 450 - 900

BC183LB is in the range 240 - 500

BC183L doesn't exist, it must be LA or LB or LC
No, it's L, I can't upload pictures. In datasheet which I upload there are L, LA, LB, LC. All of them have same pin configuration. It have bigger range 125-900
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Old 08-16-2017, 03:30 PM
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No, it's L, I can't upload pictures. In datasheet which I upload there are L, LA, LB, LC. All of them have same pin configuration. It have bigger range 125-900
Anyway the beta must be more than 500.
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:09 PM
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I have other question. Is it big consumer of elecric power? I plan to use 4 batteries from cell phones with capacity from 1000 to 2000 mAh
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:08 PM
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I put two variable capacitors from 5p parallel with 15pf, so we'll see the results
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Old 08-17-2017, 07:22 AM
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Hi all
I used BC549B and my Lrl work fine.

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Old 08-17-2017, 08:23 AM
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I used BC549B and my Lrl work fine.

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BC549B is low noise transistor via 200 ~ 450 hfe.
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:43 AM
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The absorption is very small, 20 - 40mA, depends on how many leds are used. I recommend two 9V batteries connected in series.
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:52 PM
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The absorption is very small, 20 - 40mA, depends on how many leds are used. I recommend two 9V batteries connected in series.
Great, ill use 4 mobile phone batteries from 3.7v and I'll conect them with 4s electronic board for lithium batteries. I'll have around 15v. I finish soldering today, but I'll try tomorrow or some other day. Thanks Franco for your cooperation. To bed is that I can't upload pictures. Is it there some other way?

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Old 08-17-2017, 03:38 PM
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Great, ill use 4 mobile phone batteries from 3.7v and I'll conect them with 4s electronic board for lithium batteries. I'll have around 15v. I finish soldering today, but I'll try tomorrow or some other day. Thanks Franco for your cooperation. To bed is that I can't upload pictures. Is it there some other way?

https://image.ibb.co/ewNxMa/IMG_20170816_101751.jpg

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https://image.ibb.co/ep5yBa/IMG_20170817_153418.jpg

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Good work, as regard to upload pictures, you must read forum rules, for example jpg no more than 1M.
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