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Old 01-21-2010, 08:22 PM
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Although I read ane re-read the post several times, I couldn't decide whether g-sani was saying that the device was patented, or whether this was a misuse of the word "patent". I was expecting the latter. Nothing mysterious ... or even mischievous.



Try this Qiaozhi !! no need any patent for frequency Generator from "RAMSEY"

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:19 PM
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Hi gibon.
What about the coil?? is there anything else in the wooden box????
Also very strange rod.
Gongratulation, looks good work.
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:30 PM
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Hi gibon.
What about the coil?? is there anything else in the wooden box????
Also very strange rod.
Gongratulation, looks good work.
This is a rod made by Mike(Mont) to be less friction than ordinary L-rods. It has magnets attached at the location above and below the blue metal for bearings to hold the rod when it swings. It is said to be more sensitive if there is not much wind compared to ordinary rods that work better when there is wind. I think this rod is not the original rods that came with this equipment.

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:32 PM
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This is the rod made by Mike(Mont) to be less friction than ordinary L-rods. It has magnets attached at the location above and below the blue metal for bearings to let the rod swing. It is said to be more sensitive if there is not much wind compared to ordinary rods that work better when there is wind. I think this rod is not the original rods that came with this equipment.

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:57 PM
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This is a rod made by Mike(Mont) to be less friction than ordinary L-rods. It has magnets attached at the location above and below the blue metal for bearings to hold the rod when it swings. It is said to be more sensitive if there is not much wind compared to ordinary rods that work better when there is wind. I think this rod is not the original rods that came with this equipment.

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So it's basically a dowsing rod, dressed up with some do-nothing electronics?
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:24 PM
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So it's basically a dowsing rod, dressed up with some do-nothing electronics?
The picture I see shows an MFD box (adjustable frequency generator) with ground probes at the output, and maybe an ariel on top, and a dowsing rod to connect to.

The interesting thing is this dowsing rod can easily be balanced by adding non-metallic weight to the front or back so it will not swivel when tilted. Maybe it can have a plastic weight added so gravity has no effect when it is not perfectly level. This could allow some interesting experiments to see if there is some other force different from gravity to make it swivel.

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Old 01-21-2010, 11:31 PM
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The picture I see shows an MFD box (adjustable frequency generator) with ground probes at the output, and maybe an ariel on top, and a dowsing rod to connect to.

The interesting thing is this dowsing rod can easily be balanced by adding non-metallic weight to the front or back so it will not swivel when tilted. Maybe it can have a plastic weight added so gravity has no effect when it is not perfectly level. This could allow some interesting experiments to see if there is some other force different from gravity to make it swivel.

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It would make sense to liberate the signal generator, and transfer it to someone's workshop where it could be more useful.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:33 PM
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It would make sense to liberate the signal generator, and transfer it to someone's workshop where it could be more useful.
... and throw the rest in the recycling bin.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:43 PM
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This is a rod made by Mike(Mont) to be less friction than ordinary L-rods. It has magnets attached at the location above and below the blue metal for bearings to hold the rod when it swings. It is said to be more sensitive if there is not much wind compared to ordinary rods that work better when there is wind. I think this rod is not the original rods that came with this equipment.

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I have seen this dowsing rod long time ago in the web whith its price.
It is been made from somebody selling other LRLs as well.
I can not remember the page now but I remember it was somebody well known.I will check and let you know.
It was for sale alone and this is for sure.I remember the price was 125$ plus postage.
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:46 AM
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It would make sense to liberate the signal generator, and transfer it to someone's workshop where it could be more useful.
Sure,
But not until after you finish checking it with the balanced dowsing rod to see if it is doing anything useful.
Mike(Mont) invented the perfect rod that can be balanced to check if there is a mysterious force pulling it toward treasure.

Think about it... Once you add a non-metallic counterweight so no tilting will cause gravity to swivel the rod direction, then you can test without even digging the target. It will test false signals as well as treasure signals. Any signal whether a good signal or a bad signal, or even an idea-motor signal can no longer rely on gravity to help. We must see the signal line use the mysterious force to cause the rod to move. This will clearly indicate whether the signal generator is helping to make the rod move.

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Old 01-22-2010, 08:47 AM
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High sensitivity even in a dowsing rod can help one get more accurate results especially when testing or practicing because parameters as friction go aside in a much greater level.
I liked this fresh idea myself and I think it is fair priced.
See the video in the page below where you can understand how sensitive this rod is.
http://www.lrlman.com/Pages/MikeRod/...ocator_rod.htm
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:31 AM
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Nice video. Neodymium magnets?
It is not LRL it is compass!
Anyway...good toy for playing!
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:34 AM
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It is not LRL it is compass!

Exactly, and on top of all this MikeRod compass is useless (as compass too).


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Old 01-22-2010, 10:56 AM
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Nice video. Neodymium magnets?
It is not LRL it is compass!
Anyway...good toy for playing!


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Exactly, and on top of all this MikeRod compass is useless (as compass too).

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Hmmm... I didn't notice, the magnets are not only for a bearing at the pivot, but there is also a magnet on the end of the rod.
So this makes it a compass as you say.

I wonder how it can be used to locate treasure if the earth's magnetic field causes it point only to north?
Maybe you need to stand on the south side of where you know there is a treasure?



Maybe it would be more convienient to use a compass ring.
Then no need to carry the special rod assembly, with problems of wind moving the needle.
Simply point your finger to your favourite compass direction to locate treasure....
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Maybe it would be more convienient to use a compass ring.
Then no need to carry the special rod assembly, with problems of wind moving the needle.
Simply point your finger to your favourite compass direction to locate treasure....
Yes, or this device:

Way much better than MikeRod and worth their price. Imune to Earth magnetic field, but sensitive to anomalies in soil if you change position and directions. In addition, they assist in orientation and help you to come back home. In few words: ideal LRL (need only to add pistol handle):
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:00 PM
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Yes, or this device:

Way much better than MikeRod and worth their price. Imune to Earth magnetic field, but sensitive to anomalies in soil if you change position and directions. In addition, they assist in orientation and help you to come back home. In few words: ideal LRL (need only to add pistol handle):
I think the Mike rod could locate a shovel if tested at close range.
Will this device also locate a shovel?

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Will this device also locate a shovel?

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O yes, this device can locate 3 shovels at once - and you can all target geografic coordinate put in memory if you have no time to dig..
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O yes, this device can locate 3 shovels at once - and you can all target geografic coordinate put in memory if you have no time to dig..
Interesting...
Then the geographical coordinates shown on the display can be used as proof of locating treasure.

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Interesting...
Then the geographical coordinates shown on the display can be used as proof of locating treasure.

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Nice!
the only thing you need is to take a picture of the screen
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:27 PM
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High sensitivity even in a dowsing rod can help one get more accurate results especially when testing or practicing because parameters as friction go aside in a much greater level.
I liked this fresh idea myself and I think it is fair priced.
See the video in the page below where you can understand how sensitive this rod is.
http://www.lrlman.com/Pages/MikeRod/...ocator_rod.htm
Total nonsense.

Just another useless dowsing gadget driven by the ideomotor response.
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Total nonsense.

Just another useless dowsing gadget driven by the ideomotor response.
BTW, did you notice If you want the tritium power load, add $25.

Now there is an option you could hardly do without. I mean if the dowsing rod itself wasn't a big enough joke, why not go the extra $25 and get the Tritium Power Load.

Certainly a bent coat hanger will work as well as this expensive dowsing contraption, WITH or WITHOUT the tritium power load.

Also, I wonder if Mike(Mont) and Tim Williams (LRLman) is aware of the US Export Laws concerning the shipment and carriers involved in transporting Tritium? I wonder also if he is aware of the Health Hazards associated with Tritium? Do you suppose he iterates those to his customers before offering them the "tritium power load"?

Oh, and BTW, what exactly does a tritium power load do to enhance ones ideomotor response?
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I am sure the tritium has a strong psychological effect, which is all is necessary for dowsing.
This is tritium:

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I wonder what are the effect if you already use a watch with tritium...
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What is the similarity between crows and skeptics?
They move around in bunches.
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I am sure the tritium has a strong psychological effect, which is all is necessary for dowsing.
This is tritium:

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I wonder what are the effect if you already use a watch with tritium...
Yes, that's an example of the use of tritium, but Mike talked about a Power Load, inferring that it was capable of making a difference in the dowsing rod's accuracy or response characteristics - so that probably means a MUCH LARGER amount of tritium.
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I am sure the tritium has a strong psychological effect, which is all is necessary for dowsing.

I wonder what are the effect if you already use a watch with tritium...
Hi Fred,
If tritium used in a watch helps to show a good reading, then tritum in a compass should also help to get a good reading.

The difference is....
For the watch it helps only to find the time of day.
But for the compass, it helps to find the direction where the treasure machine is pointing.


P.S. Tritium would also have the same effect on the ring compass.

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