rangertell examiner field trials

[hung]

Originally Posted by Jim

As it turns out, Art's picture was staged. Art was caught padding the thread with false information.

Not worth it placing a coment on the above statements.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Jim

As it turns out, Art's picture was staged. Art was caught padding the thread with false information. No surprise, and no surprise that Hung will attempt some low-class damage control. How about that for debunkering sports fan

Thanks for getting the truth injected here, Jim.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by hung

He,he,he... As I thought, that picture and Art's successful hunting with the RT turned the skepthics here into a freaking state just like cockroaches('cuckarachas') flying trough the air in a summer night...

And the mambo boys even hint he had not found the coins and the ring in the picture using the RT... this even after seeing it with their own eyes!
Imagine if they saw what I already found...
That's why I said in the other forum about the psychological altered states skepthics live in a daily basis here...
Here's Art's own words... Yes there is also another picture with more coins and a dollar bill found...



Also, JP should definetely take more lessons from Art, maybe in private and in person this time. Emails to him are not working... Hurry up, becase if this ain't work, send the thing back fast, otherwise you will need to pay for it!

What a hell of a great time LRL users have here...

How's that for a technical forum Esteban?

Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?

Great idea, except word "technical".
What has esoteric dowsing to do with technique?

All sceptic will be there for funny.

[ivconic]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?

Personaly i don't mind having you here guys. Forum is better with your presence.
Only thing that lacks is some more detailed and more real and REPEATABLE project from you.
Much stories, much claims, much photos and clips...yet NONE of the real working schematic, project..hint...something real and material.
On other side, from "us" you have here numerous I/B,PI,BFO etc.. schematics, pcbs, projects...all REPEATABLE, WORKING and PROVEN in practice.
But hey! Nothing perfect in ths sad world.

[hung]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?

Esteban, we have already talked about this in our emails.

I suggest you ask yourself if this forum is being helpful to you the way you are being helpful to it... You might find some useful info on the regular MD toys forum, but what about RS forum?

I suggest you ask yourself if you enjoy posting LRL technical info and receiveing nothing in return except fun and skepticism... Of course! They are skepthics and complete ignorants on LRLs...But they do not have respect.

And finally I suggest you ask yourself if you enjoy being criticized and ridicularized for not posting a working LRL circuit here, as you and I know that this will never happen for obvious reasons.

If your answer to the three questions above is NO, then yes, I suggest you migrate to a forum where you talk to real LRL users, talk about the technology with them and you trully exchange relevant information.
You can filter skeptic members to prevent the usual baloney from them. Remember: You want to talk about LRLs. You're way past the stage where LRLs were still being discussed as probable... Quite sometime ago eh?

And if you have some time left, hang around here just to have fun. Like the skepthics do all the time...

Regards.

[ivconic]

"...But they do not have respect.."

You are wrong here. Respect you have here. Credence maybe not...but respect you have.

Even if you, Esteban and other LRL proponents move from this forum and go to another place...would you post something more real there than?
If so than i will join also that new forum (to se more real stuff there)!

Solution is not to run away from this forum, solution is to stay here and defend you attitude with more real facts.
Regards!

[hung]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Thanks for getting the truth injected here, Jim.

How idiotic...
Let Art speak for himself...

Gee..It seems that my Camera does not have the right time…My new camera is wrong but guess what…It will not be the last time….Now AF…You keep insisting that we all use Metal detectors to pin point our targets….If they are so accurate how come millions of pin pointers have been sold to people with Metal Detectors? When I was locating all those coins and the DOLLAR BILL marking the spot to dig was simple.. When the LRL swung I followed it to the source and put a little mark on the ground with my shoe..The next step is to degauss the antenna , put the freq back in and press enter…Then hit the COS button and wait for it to make it’s calculations…I then enter 0.0005 feet ..I move my foot around the mark on the ground until it swings. I place my steel marker beside the front part of my heel on my left foot…I can dig the coin now….The spot is mark directly over the top of the coin. I know that the coin is silver, nickel or copper because of the freq that I was using….100% discrimination…100% accuracy I could go other there and use the Aluminum freq and dig few hundred pull tabs for you guys but since you keep bugging us with a never ending bunch of false information I will let you guys dig all those empty holes that have pull tabs in them…Art

See what I mean Esteban?

[hung]

Originally Posted by ivconic

stay here and defend you attitude with more real facts.
Regards!

If there were no real facts there would be no Esteban, no hung, no Mineoro, no Rangertell, no OKM, etc.
Knowledge does not come to us.
We go towards it.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by hung

I suggest you ask yourself if you enjoy posting LRL technical info and receiveing nothing in return except fun and skepticism...

.

Huh hung

Esteban is still the greatest living collector of foreign intellectual property.
He never posting nothig of his ovn idea only replicas of others ideas.

And dont forget, that only sceptic can LRL forum keep in vivo.
Without sceptic your new forum will be SRL (Short Range Living).

[g-sani]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban


Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?


My opinion is that a technical forum cannot stand alone my friends.
When it comes to electronics involved in Treasure Hunting it will always be and some other posts between the schematics and then everything will be mixed again and at the end it will be exactly the same.
Apart from this all that somebody has to do is click Technology.Skeptics will be always everywhere and they do us good as well.

It is so many members here by now that infos+knowledge come in every form and shape.
Here in Greece It was 1-2 forums at the beggining and it was allright.You could serf and enjoy it.Since the same people or company splitted by making new forums(6-7) things changed in a bad manner.You have to pass from all of them if you want to talk to your old friends and you loose track of the situation.
The result?
You get bored and fed up instead of be happy and relaxed.

[ivconic]

Originally Posted by g-sani

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban


Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?


My opinion is that a technical forum cannot stand alone my friends.
When it comes to electronics involved in Treasure Hunting it will always be and some other posts between the schematics and then everything will be mixed again and at the end it will be exactly the same.
Apart from this all that somebody has to do is click Technology.Skeptics will be always everywhere and they do us good as well.

It is so many members here by now that infos+knowledge come in every form and shape.
Here in Greece It was 1-2 forums at the beggining and it was allright.You could serf and enjoy it.Since the same people or company splitted by making new forums(6-7) things changed in a bad manner.You have to pass from all of them if you want to talk to your old friends and you loose track of the situation.
The result?
You get bored and fed up instead of be happy and relaxed.

Well...that makes sence. I agree.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by hung

And finally I suggest you ask yourself if you enjoy being criticized and ridicularized for not posting a working LRL circuit here, as you and I know that this will never happen for obvious reasons.Regards.

Esteban and his posts have always been respected and read with interest , because he wants to learn more and try to understand what he is observing.In other words, he wants to progress, unlike you , which just blindly believe in something that you will never understand -

Originally Posted by hung

If there were no real facts there would be no Esteban, no hung, no Mineoro, no Rangertell, no OKM, etc.
Knowledge does not come to us.
We go towards it.

Is this a joke? because i found it funny.At least it shows how far away you are from reality.

[osman]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Do you suggest starting another technical forum, but not here?

everyone, knowledge, skills and experience in, to share, an environment free of course, olcaktır enjoyable.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by hung

How idiotic...

There is that low-class damage control

[osman]

[quote = asılı; 104.467] Eğer hiçbir Esteban olacaktı gerçek gerçekler vardı asılı hayır, hayır Mineoro, hayır Rangertell, hayır OKM, vb
Bilgi bize gelmiyor.
Biz doğru gidin. [/ Quote]


hung hi

As an experienced user,
For users, what is recommended.? What do you suggest.? (appropriate settings + search system), etc.

Best wishes

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Thanks for getting the truth injected here, Jim.

Not a problem.

Not only did Art not know about his camera's digital signature, he didn't realize he made so many posts that day...you could plainly see he didn't have enough time to recover those amounts of targets.

And....now its time to wait for Hung's low-class damage control piffle

[hung]

Originally Posted by Jim

There is that low-class damage control

It fits perfectly your pathetic temptative of discrediting him.
But Art's feat and the facts have blown you and your stage up (as always).

You really seem to be a chronic masochist who rather choose to fool yoursef intead of accepting the facts. You are 'factual spanked' all the time by him at TNET and don't evolve...
I can only feel sorry for you buddy...

[hung]

Originally Posted by osman

[quote = asılı; 104.467] Eğer hiçbir Esteban olacaktı gerçek gerçekler vardı asılı hayır, hayır Mineoro, hayır Rangertell, hayır OKM, vb
Bilgi bize gelmiyor.
Biz doğru gidin. [/ Quote]


hung hi

As an experienced user,
For users, what is recommended.? What do you suggest.? (appropriate settings + search system), etc.

Best wishes

Hi Osman,

If you refer to the RT aproach, it's really hard to say as each user seem to develop a particular aproach, frequencies and equations that work best for him. For instance, Art's own frequencies, and method to enter the equations do not work very well for me. And my own aproach probably will not fit Art's... So what I suggest is that you try different settings according to the manual and see what works best for you. Actually to be honest, the examiner requires a big amount of time for practicing it as you become part of the circuit regarding the locating procedure. I have been using one for almost 5 years now and I'm still learning, but it pays. It's a great aproach and saves you a lot of time in the field. And I mean a LOT of time.

Art is a special case. He has been an experienced dowser for many years and the examiner in his hands becomes a polished jewell. I, like him have stated that the Examiner is not dowsing. And his claim on this is much more important as he is a master dowser and knows exactly what he is talking about.
He has mastered the device as you can see in the pictures and I dare to say that probably he can find anything he wants now considering the amount of experience he has on the device today.

Hope this helps, but in case you have more doubts, send me a PM and I will gladly try to solve them.
All the best to you too.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Jim

Not a problem.

Not only did Art not know about his camera's digital signature, he didn't realize he made so many posts that day...you could plainly see he didn't have enough time to recover those amounts of targets.

And....now its time to wait for Hung's low-class damage control piffle

If we were to itemize all the areas where Art is short of a clear understanding, we could be here making out the list until the wee hours of the morning, or longer. Art's lack of knowledge and basic understanding skills might only be overshadowed by Hung's.

[osman]

Originally Posted by hung

Hi Osman,

If you refer to the RT aproach, it's really hard to say as each user seem to develop a particular aproach, frequencies and equations that work best for him. For instance, Art's own frequencies, and method to enter the equations do not work very well for me. And my own aproach probably will not fit Art's... So what I suggest is that you try different settings according to the manual and see what works best for you. Actually to be honest, the examiner requires a big amount of time for practicing it as you become part of the circuit regarding the locating procedure. I have been using one for almost 5 years now and I'm still learning, but it pays. It's a great aproach and saves you a lot of time in the field. And I mean a LOT of time.

Art is a special case. He has been an experienced dowser for many years and the examiner in his hands becomes a polished jewell. I, like him have stated that the Examiner is not dowsing. And his claim on this is much more important as he is a master dowser and knows exactly what he is talking about.
He has mastered the device as you can see in the pictures and I dare to say that probably he can find anything he wants now considering the amount of experience he has on the device today.

Hope this helps, but in case you have more doubts, send me a PM and I will gladly try to solve them.
All the best to you too.

hi hung

Thank you.they are written above, just agree.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Art is a special case.

No comment.

Originally Posted by hung

He has been an experienced dowser for many years and the examiner in his hands becomes a polished jewell. I, like him have stated that the Examiner is not dowsing

If the Examiner is not a dowsing gadget, then why would being an experienced dowser make any difference? Sounds like double-dutch to me.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

No comment.


If the Examiner is not a dowsing gadget, then why would being an experienced dowser make any difference? Sounds like double-dutch to me.

Well, of course the Examiner IS most definitely a dowsing wand. (Let's not forget the original report that is still on Carl's site.) And, like other LRL scammers in the past, it is all dolled up with a bunch of do-nothing parts and appendages to fool the gullible and technically-challenged into thinking it does more than a bent coat-hanger. Fool them it has; as Art and Hung are prime examples.

They can rave on and on about frequencies and signal lines and Cosine Functions all they want, but the truth is, none of that is doing Jack Squat towards helping the operator/dowser to locate a target. In the end, the Examiner is still nothing more than an indicator of ones intuition, and of course moves ONLY in response to the classic ideomotor effect from the operator holding it.

[g-sani]

I wrote in some other post before that I am interesting of buying the RT examiner and now I think is the right time to tell you why.
As you see in the picture above somebody holds a pistol that its main box is a calculator.
This is a guy that makes lrls and the particular one I can assure you that works in exactly the same principle as the examiner.
How did I get knowing this guy? I will tell you how.
This guy went out a few of times whith a very good friend of mine looking for treasure.One time they were lucky to discover a small pot of silver coins(27).One other time the guy said that we have something in gold here but they could not confirm it because it was inside somebody elses property.And also some other time in some other place he said that he was getting something silver and they didn't confirm it whith their detector(Whites DFX).Well he said that it was deeper than what the DFX could get.
What can you say about that?May be is true and may be not.
Anyway my friend was really amazed whith this pistol of his and once we were sitting in a cafe talking about treasure places.My friend told me about that time they detected gold inside that property.
When he told me the name of the village and the exact location it was like getting an electric shock.
What happened is that I had detected the same target whith my lrl about a year ago and I never told anybody else about that.The thing is that I confirmed the target whith my LORENZ Deepmax X3 and yes is true.It is something gold inside the garden in the exact spot as my friend knows as well.The only difference is that they never confirm it whith a VLF or whith a Pulse detector.
This heppened while I was about 500m away from the village looking for a small wooden box whith gold sovereigns that it was supposed to be left there in the woods during World WarII.
Instead of finding this I had that signal in that nearby village in that property which is located just in the edge of the village.
So I am a bit skeptical that this kind of detector does something or in other words is probably working.
You see the guy that makes these pistols over here even supplies you whith a manual very very similar to what RT has for their customers probably written in a different manner.
This guy is an electronics man and he says that from time to time makes LRLs because is his hobby but he sells them as well.As I learned from my friend he is doing it for many years and he is experienced.
After all this tell me what are the posibilities of what is really happening here.
This guy took the patent of RT and makes the same detectors whith no name on them and everytime in different packages-boxes and may be RT sometime ago took the idea from him.One thing is for sure is that he sells for much more.My friend told me he sells them for a few thousand euros and that he also has made some other patents for other electronic systems apart from detectors which I found out that it is true.
I will try to meet whith the guy sometime and probably ask him in person what is the relation of him and RT.
He must know them one way or another for sure.
You see I stopped my friend of buying his LRL when I explained him that there is the examiner that does exactly the same and I can tell you now that is really confused.

Many regards

[Rangertell]

Rangertell Locating and Explorations Systems invented the Examiner concept in 2002 and retains rights etc to the product.

Proof of this exists on the net back to this period.

We categorically state no similar unit was used as a basis for the original. We started using a coil idea that occurred to the maker and it developed from there. The assistant applied the calculator idea after testing the coils and discovering a new concept.

The unit described may work to an extent or he has refined it. It's not Rangertell though and has not had 8 years successful worldwide marketing and testing to back it up.

Rangertell
15/01/2010



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