US Department of Justice Identifies MFD and HID as Worthless Dowsing Gadgets

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by WM6

I'm still waiting for Amphibious self digging robotic version.

No....
No overpriced robotic self digging BS for me.... I want the high tech physics designed PVC pipe gizmoe we see in the picture above. I know it will cost less than the can of chili beans I lost, and it will also find the lost can of chili beans too. And after that, I plan to find lots and lots of gold that will put me in a financial position to buy your Amphibious self digging robotic version. So you need to wait until I find my lost can of chili beans and untold fabulous gold treasure before I send in my order for the robotic version.

Best wishes,
J_p

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Theseus

It certainly would be interesting to know which principles of physics are involved in this PVC plumbing device.

Only principle that is real obvious would be when cash changes hands, from the buyer to the seller.

You do honestly have to wonder who buys this rubbish.

It's so obviously a nonsense device, and an insult to anyone's intelligence. There is no "physics" involved, just a trick of the mind.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

You do honestly have to wonder who buys this rubbish.

It's so obviously a nonsense device, and an insult to anyone's intelligence. There is no "physics" involved, just a trick of the mind.

It is real reasonably priced at only $75 plus $10 shipping. A virtual steal at twice the price.

http://dowse.webs.com/apps/webstore/...ts/show/302027

What? You say there is no real physics involved. But what about what the ad copy says? It generates signal lines to targets up to 200 Feet away. Would that be a lie! What happened to truth in advertising? Wonder what the FTC would say about this advertising? Do you suppose the Justice Department would reconsider their report if they could only get a look at this product?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Theseus

It is real reasonably priced at only $75 plus $10 shipping. A virtual steal at twice the price.

http://dowse.webs.com/apps/webstore/...ts/show/302027

What? You say there is no real physics involved. But what about what the ad copy says? It generates signal lines to targets up to 200 Feet away. Would that be a lie! What happened to truth in advertising? Wonder what the FTC would say about this advertising? Do you suppose the Justice Department would reconsider their report if they could only get a look at this product?

This part I can believe ->
And it works as well as some LRL's selling for $thousands$ of dollars.


Why am I not surprised that there's no link to Geotech?
http://dowse.webs.com/apps/links/

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Theseus

It is real reasonably priced at only $75 plus $10 shipping. A virtual steal at twice the price.

i thought the chili beans thing was a joke from the poster

Very reasonably priced for such a high tech thing, but 40USD shipping

[Mike(Mont)]

It appears to me that the "National Institute of Justice" is a misnomer just like many bills in Congress. At least on a jury of twelve you might get one person that is non-biased. Reminds me of an infamous skeptic who proclaimed he is "totally non-biased". Just like another skeptic on this forum claims he is a "nice guy". I think these skeptics really believe they are.

[Dell Winders]

Why am I not surprised that there's no link to Geotech?

The reason is obvious to intelligent viewers. But I will explain it for you. Geotech administrator, and Geotech skeptics on this forum have shown they have no field experience with Dowsing, or remote sensing methods used by Treasure Hunters, and speak with egotistical ignorance. Geotechian Skeptics simply have nothing of interest to offer viewers, except maybe rather stupid comic.

Clean up your act, demonstrate some intelligence, show a sincere interest in the subject, practice your Dowsing, and LRL use so you can speak intelligently on the subjects and if you can overcome your mental handicaps, I will exchange a link to Geotech, for a link to my site at http://www.dowse.webs.com

I don't consider dis-information, deception, scientific pretense, bias, prejudice, ignorance or mockery as good reasons to recommend the Geotech website.

For Tabloid journalism, and comic relief I would be more likely to recommend the author of this funny skeptic website over the Geotech proclaimed skeptic's contributions. Dell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...pics?hl=en&lr=

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

For Tabloid journalism, and comic relief I would be more likely to recommend the author of this funny skeptic website over the Geotech proclaimed skeptic's contributions. Dell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...pics?hl=en&lr=

"Funny skeptic website"?
It all looks quite reasonable to me. Unless you're an LRL salesman of course.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

It is real reasonably priced at only $75 plus $10 shipping. A virtual steal at twice the price.

http://dowse.webs.com/apps/webstore/...ts/show/302027

What? You say there is no real physics involved. But what about what the ad copy says? It generates signal lines to targets up to 200 Feet away. Would that be a lie! What happened to truth in advertising? Wonder what the FTC would say about this advertising? Do you suppose the Justice Department would reconsider their report if they could only get a look at this product?

WHAT!!!?
$75 plus $10 shipping?
Hey dude.... My lost chili beans only cost $0.79 on sale at the local supermarket!
How can I afford $89 to find them? huh?
So I can find the lost chili beans up to 200 feet away with the "dowser's edge".. well shove it!
I am not so lazy that I won't look around and find my lost chili beans without it. I bet I find a lot of other lost stuff in the process too.

Hmmmm....
This "dowser's Edge" thingy looks a lot like part of my back yard sprinkler pipes... I wonder....
Maybe if I cut off a small section of sprinkler pipe, and get some cap fittings I can make my own "dowser's edge"?
I wonder if it will have the same physics based properties of the genuine article that costs $79 plus shipping?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

i thought the chili beans thing was a joke from the poster

Very reasonably priced for such a high tech thing, but 40USD shipping

Yes - I wondered that too, but then I looked at the rest of the site.
No further comment.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Fred

i thought the chili beans thing was a joke from the poster

Very reasonably priced for such a high tech thing, but 40USD shipping

I guess Dell figures once he has a sucker on the hook, they will not quibble over the postage, which is about half the cost of the product (outside the US).

As Qiaozhi said, who in their right mind would fall for such a scam? Only one poster here comes to mind. Won't mention a name but it starts with M and ends in e (M**e).

[Mike(Mont)]

"I think I'm an alright guy. I really do!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijUiwfm6P9E&feature=fvw

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by fred

i thought the chili beans thing was a joke from the poster


Originally Posted by Theseus


...As Qiaozhi said, who in their right mind would fall for such a scam? Only one poster here comes to mind. Won't mention a name but it starts with M and ends in e (M**e).

Who would fall for such a scam?
Hey, as a heartbroken loser of his can of chili beans, l almost fell for it too. Lucky I got sticker shock when I saw the price, or I would be paying $25 plus handling fees on my credit card for the next 6 months. Thanks for the tips.

ps. I haven't found my lost chili beans yet, but still searching.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Maybe if I cut off a small section of sprinkler pipe, and get some cap fittings I can make my own "dowser's edge"?
I wonder if it will have the same physics based properties of the genuine article that costs $79 plus shipping?

Best wishes,
J_P

You don´t even need to cut your spinkler pipe.Just stick the bean inside (somehow)and it will work equally well.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

"I think I'm an alright guy. I really do!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijUiwfm6P9E&feature=fvw

What are we supposed to be looking at in that link?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

For Tabloid journalism, and comic relief I would be more likely to recommend the author of this funny skeptic website over the Geotech proclaimed skeptic's contributions. Dell
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...pics?hl=en&lr=

Hi Dell,
I checked out your link for the funny skeptic website. I guess it's sorta cool, but it seems to fall short when compared to Geotech. It looks to me like the link you posted shows rantings that keep on with the exact same formula to "debunker" pseudoscience, which gets kind of boring after reading a few of their posts. But what I see in Geotech seems to have a more refreshing innovative character. Some skeptic posts at Geotech seem to take on an art form that can have skeptics as well as dowsing proponents laughing. I tried to do my part in my parody of the poor hillbilly who lost his can of chili beans, and I see the other skeptics are also up for some very innovative posts here too. It makes for good variety. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it seems to me you get more quality entertainment in Geotech than other skeptic websites. Am I wrong about this?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

Stupid is, as stupid does. Dell

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

The reason is obvious to intelligent viewers. But I will explain it for you. Geotech administrator, and Geotech skeptics on this forum have shown they have no field experience with Dowsing, or remote sensing methods used by Treasure Hunters, and speak with egotistical ignorance. Geotechian Skeptics simply have nothing of interest to offer viewers, except maybe rather stupid comic.

Clean up your act, demonstrate some intelligence, show a sincere interest in the subject, practice your Dowsing, and LRL use so you can speak intelligently on the subjects and if you can overcome your mental handicaps, I will exchange a link to Geotech, for a link to my site at http://www.dowse.webs.com

I don't consider dis-information, deception, scientific pretense, bias, prejudice, ignorance or mockery as good reasons to recommend the Geotech website.

For Tabloid journalism, and comic relief I would be more likely to recommend the author of this funny skeptic website over the Geotech proclaimed skeptic's contributions. Dell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...pics?hl=en&lr=

Interesting. That link you provided noted:

Dell Winders Lies To Gain Sympathy

Are you still trying to gain sympathy...and is it working?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Stupid is, as stupid does. Dell

Each post you make make me feel smarter.Thanks Dell !

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Fred

Each post you make make me feel smarter.Thanks Dell !

I'm confident that was probably not his original intent.

[Theseus]

Incidentally, in case anyone else, besides Dell, is confused and misunderstanding of the link that he posted above:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...pics?hl=en&lr=

Google is not the originating point for any Usenet Newsgroups. They (Google) merely have taken on the task of monitoring, and archiving (on Google Groups), the thousands of messages that constitute the daily traffic flowing through all of the Usenet Newsgroups.

A usenet newsgroup is a repository usually within the Usenet system, for messages posted from many users in different locations. The term may be confusing to some, because it is usually a discussion group. Newsgroups are technically distinct from, but functionally similar to, discussion forums on the World Wide Web. (<--quoted from Wikipedia in the interests of brevity)

Usenet resembles bulletin board systems (BBS) in most respects, and is the precursor to the various Internet forums that are widely used today; and can be superficially regarded as a hybrid between e-mail and web forums. Discussions are threaded, with modern news reader software, as with web forums and BBSes, though posts are stored on the server sequentially. One notable difference between a BBS or web forum and Usenet is the absence of a central server and dedicated administrator. Usenet is distributed among a large, constantly changing conglomeration of servers that store and forward messages to one another. (<--quoted from Wikipedia in the interests of brevity)

Again, people like Dell, who are obviously unknowing about the workings and history of Usenet, can post their link to Google, and leave the impression (mistaken as it is) with innocent readers, that Google is somehow responsible for the content and topics they have archived and reprinted. They are not. You can think of Googlegroups as merely a window to the Usenet system for those who do not wish to read the messages with a standard newsreader. (Today, most all Email readers come standard with a newsreader - it only requires configuration by the user )

Just thought I would add a little semblance of clarity for those who may have been confused by Dell's own misunderstanding.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Incidentally, in case anyone else, besides Dell, is confused and misunderstanding of the link that he posted above:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...pics?hl=en&lr=

Google is not the originating point for any Usenet Newsgroups. They (Google) merely have taken on the task of monitoring, and archiving (on Google Groups), the thousands of messages that constitute the daily traffic flowing through all of the Usenet Newsgroups.

A usenet newsgroup is a repository usually within the Usenet system, for messages posted from many users in different locations. The term may be confusing to some, because it is usually a discussion group. Newsgroups are technically distinct from, but functionally similar to, discussion forums on the World Wide Web. (<--quoted from Wikipedia in the interests of brevity)

Usenet resembles bulletin board systems (BBS) in most respects, and is the precursor to the various Internet forums that are widely used today; and can be superficially regarded as a hybrid between e-mail and web forums. Discussions are threaded, with modern news reader software, as with web forums and BBSes, though posts are stored on the server sequentially. One notable difference between a BBS or web forum and Usenet is the absence of a central server and dedicated administrator. Usenet is distributed among a large, constantly changing conglomeration of servers that store and forward messages to one another. (<--quoted from Wikipedia in the interests of brevity)

Again, people like Dell, who are obviously unknowing about the workings and history of Usenet, can post their link to Google, and leave the impression (mistaken as it is) with innocent readers, that Google is somehow responsible for the content and topics they have archived and reprinted. They are not. You can think of Googlegroups as merely a window to the Usenet system for those who do not wish to read the messages with a standard newsreader. (Today, most all Email readers come standard with a newsreader - it only requires configuration by the user )

Just thought I would add a little semblance of clarity for those who may have been confused by Dell's own misunderstanding.

I can agree with that. Usenet was once the choice method to read up on the latest developments on the internet. But today, it is largely replaced by ordinary online forums and blogs. Still we find a few interesting things in Usenet that have not appeared in blogs and forums. Using Usenet requires a Usenet server and a client installed, and for a decent directory service, you need to pay a monthly fee, or use the inferior, but workable free services. Most people just don't bother. But nice of Google to archive this stuff so we don't have to go through the eternal torment of monthly fees and more clients to clog up our Windows registries.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Kev]

I know how all these LRLs work.....spiritism...the Bible gives the answer, near the end of human rulership of the world this occurs.

Revelation 12:9 "The huge serpent was thrown down. That ancient snake, named Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world, was thrown down to earth. Its angels were thrown down with it."

I know the demons are there, I've seen some really weird things during my 50 years. The demons aren't interested in finding Explosives, they want to screw with peoples minds and incite grandiose visions of wealth and power, and LRL dowsing is a good way to do it, because it opens the channel of mind submission and control....

I know this sounds really weird and your probably writing me off as just as nutty as the LRL people, but considering what I've seen and experienced it certainly explains why sometimes in the right hands LRL does seem to work, but hell there's no way I'm going to sell my soul to Satan, not even for all the gold in China!

My advice is stay well away from LRL it's as bad as ouija

Regards
Kev.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Kev

My advice is stay well away from LRL it's as bad as ouija

.

Except Anti-devil Onion Trans-natural Bio-LRL .