getting rid of the rods

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Better keep your daytime job, Q, You ain't no psychic or shrink.

Correct ... I'm not a psychic ... ... or even a wallet-miner.

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I feel sorry for you that you refuse to learn to dowse. I had an relative that refused to learn to read. I think he was afraid of it.

Now, why would I want to waste my time on a ineffectual method of treasure hunting, when I have several known-working metal detectors that find treasure more than once? i.e. not just at the time of purchase.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Apparently you aren't mentally capable of learning to Dowse, or learn to use LRL with success, .....

Like 100% of the world's population. Dowsing is just a trick of the mind. No-one actually learns to dowse, only how to fool themselves into believing something that is not true, and potentially parting with hard-earned money for a modified paint roller.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

.....least you wouldn't be ranting with prejudiced, closed minded Beliefs based on assumption, ...

I'm glad to see that this doesn't apply to you.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

If you claim you have more field experience, and successes with Mental Dowsing, or LRL than I do, ...

30+ years of wasted time, peddling nonsense to the unwary.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Come on, Sam, show some photo's of your Mental, meta-physical Dowsing, or applied physics, LRL finds, that qualifies you to speak against me as an authority on either of these subjects. I'll try to match you, find for find either way, but I won't attempt to compete with your egotistical BS.

You would think, that years of experience with mental dowsing, would enable someone to know who they're talking to, and not get other people's identities confused? Must be having a senior moment...

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Of course, If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together.

Actually, Mike is just a victim. Did you know that "gullible" is not listed in the Oxford English dictionary?

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Show your respect and gratitude for our positive contributions.

Apologies ... Oh Mighty One.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Calling names, and demonstrating your jealousy and resentment against those who are successful with these locating methods.

Sounds like you just described yourself. You are the one that does all the name-calling, whenever someone threatens your scam LRL business.

If you claim you have more field experience, and successes with Mental Dowsing, or LRL than I do, and are more uniquely qualified to speak with accuracy on these subjects...

I see I need to educate you again! Boy, this sure does get tiring. Why don't you write this down and refer to it the next time you are confused.

What I claim; is to have dowsed in the field, in the laboratory, and to have researched and dowsed with countless dowsing contraptions, both enhanced(?) and non-enhanced to the degree that I completely understand the workings of all dowsing contraptions, and yes that includes your MFD contraptions as well as your "paint roller handles".

If I did not have that experience, knowledge and understanding, I would not be able to expose your scam products and similar products from other vendors.

Incidently, the results of my dowsing experiences are precisely the same as yours, or Mikes or any other dowser regardless of your choice of dowsing gadgets (bent rods or enhanced dowsing with do-nothing black boxes).

Come on, Sam, show

Sorry to inform you, you must have me confused with someone else, and I don't see anyone posting here by that name, do you?

"DELL'S DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING OF THE REAL WORLD IS CLOSED AT ALL TIMES" Dell

I guess all you really have an open mind to is Wallet-mining and selling snake oil.

BTW, did you forget; I challenge you to post right here, how your differential fields were measured (without dowsing rods), the instrument used, when it was last calibrated, who monitored the measurements and the actual documentation to record such measurements.

Guess you've got a little short-term memory loss. Does Trudy help you find your socks in the morning?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

... If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together. And like other, LRL users posting here, we have tried to contribute something positive to this forum.

Dell, what about you?
I have never seen a positive post from you , answer a question or explain something.
Why do you let someone else doing the job for you?

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Of course, If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together.

I suppose you are buttering-up Mike because you have a lot of his cash drawing interest in your bank accounts.

Incidently, you just can't make a post without resorting to name-calling. I repeat, if this forum is so disturbing to you, why do you remain here?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Theseus

"DELL'S DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING OF THE REAL WORLD IS CLOSED AT ALL TIMES" Dell

Best one so far!

[Mike(Mont)]

Dell hit the bull's eye here. I'm no psychiatrist, but some things are glaringily obvious. Anyone with a big ego/intellect cannot dowse "any better than random chance". The whole idea of the big ego relates to a flawed self-image, too. It's called self-deception and usually involves an inferiority complex attempting to project confidence. Prostitute the intellect to defend the ego.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Dell hit the bull's eye here. I'm no psychiatrist, but some things are glaringily obvious. Anyone with a big ego/intellect cannot dowse "any better than random chance". The whole idea of the big ego relates to a flawed self-image, too. It's called self-deception and usually involves an inferiority complex attempting to project confidence. Prostitute the intellect to defend the ego.

What ? I need to diminute my ego to dowse the right way ???

Have you measured Dell's ego recently!?

I think its dimensions are like a VW van of the 60's! You can carry hippies inside !

What a example of small ego!

Or wanna try with Hung ???

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Dell hit the bull's eye here. I'm no psychiatrist, but some things are glaringily obvious. Anyone with a big ego/intellect cannot dowse "any better than random chance". The whole idea of the big ego relates to a flawed self-image, too. It's called self-deception and usually involves an inferiority complex attempting to project confidence. Prostitute the intellect to defend the ego.

Sure ... you are not a psychiatrist ... that much is obvious.
Also, big ego/intellect or diminutive ego/lack-of-brains - no difference, as far as dowsing is concerned. No-one can dowse with a success rate better than random chance.
The only self-deception is in the head of the dowser, and you are proving it here quite admirably, thank you very much.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Anyone with a big ego/intellect cannot dowse "any better than random chance". ..

Now the ego must suits the rods needs ?? I am beginning to think there are so many requisites that succesfull dowsing is reserved for the Elite - aparently called Sellers

[J_Player]

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[Max]

Originally Posted by J_Player

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Always the old pimp...

At the end he will convince someone...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Max

Always the old pimp...

At the end he will convince someone...

Who is this man in the photo?

Now you change photos very often,but this one looks very empty...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Max

Always the old pimp...

At the end he will convince someone...

I hope its not you in the photo...

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Who is this man in the photo?

Now you change photos very often,but this one looks very empty...

It's Hannibal the Cannibal.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Now you change photos very often,but this one looks very empty...

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

It's Hannibal the Cannibal.

Not so empty after all

[J_Player]

you are what you eat....



best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Yes, it's the Cannibal...

BTW, have you already an invitation to dinner !?

I'd like to discuss of LRL... enjoying some good wine and a liver dish....

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Max

Yes, it's the Cannibal...

BTW, have you already an invitation to dinner !?

I'd like to discuss of LRL... enjoying some good wine and a liver dish....

Kind regards,
Max

You could try advertising on the internet. It worked for one particular German.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3286721.stm

[Max]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

You could try advertising on the internet. It worked for one particular German.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3286721.stm

yes, I know that story... cannot belive at first... but saw on TV and then ...(cause TV showed it) now I belive it happened!

Absolutely INSANE!

I think even Hannibal would refuse to eat some "parts"...
crown jewels...

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Max

I think even Hannibal would refuse to eat some "parts"...
crown jewels...

Apparently, that's the part they ate first!
And I do mean "they".

[Theseus]

Guess who just said;

"This thread is becoming confusing with the injection of physics, with mental Dowsing, without making a distinction, or clarification between the use of meta- physics, and physics control of the Rod(s)

True Dowsing is purely meta-physical, consisting of mental, mind/ muscle control of the Rod(s) i.e, Map, Photo, & Information Dowsing control of the Dowsing tool via a mind/muscle reaction. (a trained ideomotor response)

Physics are incorporated in field searches when the Rods are permitted to react freely on their own to a stronger earth "field" that concentrates in varying degrees of strength around anomalies, or the related "field" of a Harmonic signal line, generated between "like" anomalies"

What a load of BS! And to think, you concocted that entire line of s__t just to fool the gullible into buying one of your scam MFD contraptions for large dollars.

How many times must I remind you? There are not two kinds of dowsing; Mental and Physical.

Dowsing is dowsing and it doesn't matter whether you employ a piece of tree branch or the most expensive so-called enhanced dowsing contraption sold by you or any of the other wallet-miners. Regardless of the dowsing gadget/tool used, the responses from the rods ALL occur as a result of a randomly generated ideomotor response. That is in fact why dowsing produces the same results as ordinary guessing.

I challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary, and to prove (here) there are two kinds of dowsing (ie. mental and physical).

We are waiting.....

[Dell Winders]

Shame, shame on you Sam. Stealing a partial post from another forum with out giving credit, misconsruing it totally out of context, and use your rant to excuse your prejudice, and show off that tid bit of knowledge you learned from me, to save face in front of your peers for your own inability to learn to Dowse.

The truth is, I have always agreed. By definition, there is only one true dowsing method, and that is the meta-physical use of a trained mind/muscle, ideomotor response.

The implication of known laws of physics incorporated into meta-physical Dowsing is inaccurate, in my opinion, and at best a mis-nomer.

I sure don't understand the mentality that denies that a metal rod cannot be applied to physics applications? There is no scientific proof, or evidence of truth whatsoever, to warrant such an idiotic assertion. Dell

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Shame, shame.....

No shame involved, none whatsoever.

The quote I made was done within the "fair use" rights as outlined in Section 107-118 of the Copyright Act, Title 17, US Code. Reproduction was done in order to provide criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching and research; and as such is allowed according to the US Code.

Everything you said was nothing more than your tired and practiced dodge to my "challenge". How predictable of you to lapse into your old side-step of fair questions put to you about your scam LRL products and theories.

Has it ever occurred to you that legitimate business people, involved in legitimate products/services greet questions with enthusiasm, and respond with honest and helpful responses? And, when they don't have a good answer, they promise to get an answer or just say they don't know.

You, on the other hand, have NEVER taken that approach to questions. I think that says about everything about the validity and legitimacy of the products you are trying to sell.

Of course, I already knew what your response would be to my challenge, but I just wanted to give you yet another opportunity to dig your hole a little deeper, and another opportunity for you to show your true self to the other readers. Thank you, you came through like a champ. (or was that chump)

Still confused about "Sam". I must be missing some postings here because I fail to see anyone posting by that name. Is anyone else seeing postings from "Sam" ???

[g-sani]

I might think(believe) different from the most and then it was always somebody doing it.
Leaving everything apart concetrating yourself in what you really like can give you the desired result.It don't matter and I don't really care if this is called dowsing or anything else.
It could be done in a milion different ways or maybe even more.
I see some people trying to oppose to the willness of some others and it shouldn't be so since it is proved through time that the advandage of human race is that anything is possible to be done but when is trully wanted.
Well in dowsing there is a certain way of doing things in order to achieve results much faster than you should.
This is how I see it and that comes up from what hapened up to now.
Of course it is private experiences and thoughts coming out over here and then others should respect them since nobody puts a knife on their neck in order to do so.
If everybody agreed then it would be no need proving things or finding solutions.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I sure don't understand ...

That's probably about all you need to say. However, you go on...

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

... the mentality that denies that a metal rod cannot be applied to physics applications?

There is no connection between a metal coat hanger, paint roller or tree branch, and the physics of metal detecting, or even water divining, except in the deceived mind of the dowser.

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

There is no scientific proof, or evidence of truth whatsoever, to warrant such an idiotic assertion. Dell

You said it there!

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK"