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Old 08-04-2008, 10:48 PM
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Pistol MDs are reals things, and these works, not at 100%! Maybe 50-60% as another MD, because suffers of limitations and can be affected by mineralized soils (mask).
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Old 08-04-2008, 11:15 PM
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Pistol MDs are reals things, and these works, not at 100%! Maybe 50-60% as another MD, because suffers of limitations and can be affected by mineralized soils (mask).
1979, before all discussions, before internet, before any advertisements, here from banana's country!

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Old 08-04-2008, 11:56 PM
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A forum with only smart believers in LRL´s are allowed !!?? .....
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:32 AM
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mr. nothing... apart lunatic claims. I do know how to ground balance MDs... actually I do it many times per week using my TGS and BandidoII but not only.

You're completely desperate here...trying to promote yourself with nothing but impossible claims.

Happened with Pistoldetector , shame on you, and happened now again and again with your new jokes. I challenge anyone here demonstrate in a public session that the Saxon X-1 can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground in normal soil. Call your local newspaper and show them how you can do that, idiot.

I've made a PD clone and works at few cm on air... nothing at LRL, this say that I'm skeptic but I'm ready to test "new" and "different" ideas...but nothing from it... apart noise it catch really easy and normal MD behaviour.

Shame on you! Nobody testing seriously for its replication found it works as you reported... you're the only , apart Hung... that play with dynamite candles when also solder components!

You now state that LRLs work ??? Prove that! Win the challenge ! Get the money!

But for now get this!

Your ashameful commedy here is a role play game... along with Hung , Dell and some few other losers. or must I say winner ? Cause they get the money ...but from people wallets not from ground!

Hung belongs to Mineoro... Dell sold Mineoro and YOU promoted some Mineoro for "Banana-price"... and all the world know Mineoro is CRAP, for banana-price or not... it's not the problem here: Mineoro is CRAP... and PD is crap too.

What's PD ??? Uh ??? Say to people here what are the "secret" "patented" technologies from Alonso... loser.

You promote LRL as working technology but gave no details on PD that people could test to confirm your lunatic fairy tales.

You promote Saxon X-1 , that's a good detector, but not in the 45cm range underground! Fantasies... dreams... and comedies from you...

Why don't you work for the movie industry ???

You're master of science fiction... not science. Your science is limited to some turns of wire and a lot of crappy electronics, that's it.

Nexus ? I bet you never saw one.... and are just wasting people time posting that misleading informations all the time.

Ok... your Nexus, Saxon... are on SELL ??? So what ? that way you think people will belive your choppy piece of crap pistolnothing REALLY WORKS detecting metal at long range of meters?

You're born loser.

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THE CHALLENGE IS OPEN,I ACCEPT.Here (my country)where i made the test and get this result...
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:47 AM
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mr. nothing... apart lunatic claims. I do know how to ground balance MDs... actually I do it many times per week using my TGS and BandidoII but not only.

You're completely desperate here...trying to promote yourself with nothing but impossible claims.

Happened with Pistoldetector , shame on you, and happened now again and again with your new jokes. I challenge anyone here demonstrate in a public session that the Saxon X-1 can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground in normal soil. Call your local newspaper and show them how you can do that, idiot.

I've made a PD clone and works at few cm on air... nothing at LRL, this say that I'm skeptic but I'm ready to test "new" and "different" ideas...but nothing from it... apart noise it catch really easy and normal MD behaviour.

Shame on you! Nobody testing seriously for its replication found it works as you reported... you're the only , apart Hung... that play with dynamite candles when also solder components!

You now state that LRLs work ??? Prove that! Win the challenge ! Get the money!

But for now get this!

Your ashameful commedy here is a role play game... along with Hung , Dell and some few other losers. or must I say winner ? Cause they get the money ...but from people wallets not from ground!

Hung belongs to Mineoro... Dell sold Mineoro and YOU promoted some Mineoro for "Banana-price"... and all the world know Mineoro is CRAP, for banana-price or not... it's not the problem here: Mineoro is CRAP... and PD is crap too.

What's PD ??? Uh ??? Say to people here what are the "secret" "patented" technologies from Alonso... loser.

You promote LRL as working technology but gave no details on PD that people could test to confirm your lunatic fairy tales.

You promote Saxon X-1 , that's a good detector, but not in the 45cm range underground! Fantasies... dreams... and comedies from you...

Why don't you work for the movie industry ???

You're master of science fiction... not science. Your science is limited to some turns of wire and a lot of crappy electronics, that's it.

Nexus ? I bet you never saw one.... and are just wasting people time posting that misleading informations all the time.

Ok... your Nexus, Saxon... are on SELL ??? So what ? that way you think people will belive your choppy piece of crap pistolnothing REALLY WORKS detecting metal at long range of meters?

You're born loser.

Kind regards,
Max
Challenge accepted,we will see who is the LOSER...
I also used one toy from TESORO,named ELDORADO,not bad,but anyway its for children,same with TGS,good device ONLY FOR SURFACE METALS...Put in those toys biger coils and they become erratic,or make changes in circuit and they become nervous or not disc. ITS YOUR TGS WORLD .

I´m waithing for you
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:03 AM
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I see some things here never change and never will. So Morgan, I have the following suggestion:

The private forum was started with selected members at Esteban's suggestion. So,I would vote for an exclusion of members who are notorious skeptics of the LRL aproach. They would never be of any benefit to us, LRL proponents, added the fact that they would keep making fun of these things as always.

I think a re-selection of the members for the final PD stage wouldn't be impossible. But apart that, one more issue arrived. Carl now works for a MD corporation and our internal rule states none like that would be allowed in the private forum.
So, as he's also the administrator of the site, I strongly suggest we move the final stage to either email lists of careflully selected members, avoiding the others (we know who they are don't we?), or start a discussion group in private employing a public discussion group, such as yahoo, google, etc, only with selected allowance. Through email we would vote for the selected members.

I, like Morgan, agree that who honestly believed in all this from the start, does not deserve to be left helpless.
I have discovered some enhancements to the PD which would also be of benefit even to Morgan and I'm sure Morgan has many critical info which would be great to share.

In brief. I vote for resuming the PD discussion, only this time via email lists or trough a discussion group which would need personal allowance. Both outside Geotech.

I wanna hear what Morgan and Esteban have to say about this. Whatever they decide I agree. But we cannot keep the way it is at present.

Regards to all and sorry to others for my honesty. But it had to be like that.
Hi Hung

I can start again,for me no problem,as you know, soon i will start building new PD for one friend,and i can use it to show all the steps in the forum.
As to me no need to exclude crazy people like Max or J_P,allways very funny the coments they make about PD,they are clowns in the circus not EE
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:42 AM
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(I meant a forum where only smart believers in LRL´s are allowed ...)
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Isn't that an oxymoron?
I let to you the judgement and its consequences
I just wrote an harmless phrase ...
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Challenge accepted,we will see who is the LOSER...
I also used one toy from TESORO,named ELDORADO,not bad,but anyway its for children,same with TGS,good device ONLY FOR SURFACE METALS...Put in those toys biger coils and they become erratic,or make changes in circuit and they become nervous or not disc. ITS YOUR TGS WORLD .

I´m waithing for you
Hi,
I told you call your local newspaper or demonstrate that in a public session... not that I will be there in your country.

You understand it wrong ...as always...

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Old 08-05-2008, 07:13 AM
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Hi Hung

I can start again,for me no problem,as you know, soon i will start building new PD for one friend,and i can use it to show all the steps in the forum.
As to me no need to exclude crazy people like Max or J_P,allways very funny the coments they make about PD,they are clowns in the circus not EE
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that's your scope here: make people belive EEs are plain stupid... or that they cannot replicate your pistolnothing.

Here some smart people (I'm not talking about me) studied for whole life physics and electronics at levels you would never imagine... there are real MASTERS of applied science here... NOT YOU, NOT HUNG, NOT DELL and NOT ALSO OTHERS THAT MAKE LUNATIC CLAIMS.

Do you belive people is so idiotic that will belive your claims or in solid science ?
Why don't beliving in pendulum stuff then ? In tarots ? Palm reading ?
Dowsing ?

You're born loser. I see.

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Old 08-05-2008, 07:17 AM
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Isn't that an oxymoron?

I think too!

I cannot belive that someone would really trust a paint roller as LRL device !

But those "smarties" do!

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Old 08-05-2008, 07:20 AM
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1979, before all discussions, before internet, before any advertisements, here from banana's country!

Regards

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Hi Esteban,
sorry... but... as always a group there diggina an hole is not a proof the LRL really work...

you know!

Kind regards,
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I cannot belive that someone would really trust a paint roller as LRL device !
But those "smarties" do!
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Smarties with a printed "M" ??
I can imagine you rageously smashing each one of them...
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:08 PM
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Here some smart people (I'm not talking about me) studied for whole life physics and electronics at levels you would never imagine...
You bet!

Point me a single one of your heroes here! Ha,ha,ha
Maybe they'll need another life to finish what they think they learned regarding LRLs?
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You bet!

Point me a single one of your heroes here! Ha,ha,ha
Maybe they'll need another life to finish what they think they learned regarding LRLs?
No need to point someone. People know who are "real" and who are "fake" ...pretending... scientists, engineers and technicians here.

You are one of the pretenders... as others that don't know anything about e.g. electronics apart the pcb they made watching at magazines but like to stay here selling some snake oil to the masses.

you also born loser!

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Smarties with a printed "M" ??
I can imagine you rageously smashing each one of them...
Fred.
Well... "smarties" is the common , well known name of such things... when you see the "M" they are actually "M&M's" chocolate candy... a kind of smarties... there are others too, of course.

I like them... I like smashing a lot of these...without rage!

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I would like to point out that the consciousness is what makes sense of the equipment, not the other way around. Logic-minded, left-brain, critical types cannot dowse until they learn to "give up control". Don't forget everyone has two sides to their brain. Meditation allows a person to become much more aware of the info that comes in through the senses, to access the subconscious. It literally opens up a whole new world. After weeks of practice most people reach a mediataive state without even realizing it. It's like you have to practice until you get tired of it befoire you get the breakthrough. No doubt some people get too stressed out the moment they put a set of rods in their hands. And speaking of stress, I read that adrenaline deficiency can allow for greatly increased sensitivity, so don't be afraid to get some exercise and burn it off. Maybe even try some aspirin to help calm down, xam.
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I would like to point out that the consciousness is what makes sense of the equipment, not the other way around. Logic-minded, left-brain, critical types cannot dowse until they learn to "give up control". Don't forget everyone has two sides to their brain. Meditation allows a person to become much more aware of the info that comes in through the senses, to access the subconscious. It literally opens up a whole new world. After weeks of practice most people reach a mediataive state without even realizing it. It's like you have to practice until you get tired of it befoire you get the breakthrough. No doubt some people get too stressed out the moment they put a set of rods in their hands. And speaking of stress, I read that adrenaline deficiency can allow for greatly increased sensitivity, so don't be afraid to get some exercise and burn it off. Maybe even try some aspirin to help calm down, xam.
Now you seem, even more, a newage guru...
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... here selling some snake oil to the masses.
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After all, it turned out to be some truth about the snake oil, it is extremely rich in EPA which is in fact a very effective pain killer!
I'd go with an aspirin though.
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I think too!

I cannot belive that someone would really trust a paint roller as LRL device !

But those "smarties" do!

Best regards,
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Are these "smarties" all marked with an "M" for Max. Haven't you heard about sharing?
Here's some examples of oxymorons:
  • miltary intelligence
  • open secret
  • Microsoft Works
  • pretty ugly
  • unbiased opinion
I like the last one ... goes well with this forum.
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Now you seem, even more, a newage guru...
Actually he's a new age senior member.
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Still no working LRL posted and tested???????????????????????????????????

Still the same old talk and slamming?

Still snake oil( I need some for my car)
SHOW THE CURCUIT FOR ALL TO TEST( PROOF IS WHAT WE WANT)
I have a XL PRO WITH A 25inch coil and can pick up metal 9 plus feet deep.
ANYONE CAN BUY A XL PRO and put a 25 inch coil on it and do the same.
PROOF IS WHAT WE WANT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:02 AM
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Ho yes,Max is suffering of something...
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that's your scope here: make people belive EEs are plain stupid... or that they cannot replicate your pistolnothing.

Here some smart people (I'm not talking about me) studied for whole life physics and electronics at levels you would never imagine... there are real MASTERS of applied science here... NOT YOU, NOT HUNG, NOT DELL and NOT ALSO OTHERS THAT MAKE LUNATIC CLAIMS.

Do you belive people is so idiotic that will belive your claims or in solid science ?
Why don't beliving in pendulum stuff then ? In tarots ? Palm reading ?
Dowsing ?

You're born loser. I see.

Kind regards,
Max
I think your PD is not complete you lost something Max...You born a loser Illusion is the first of all your pleasures...
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:32 AM
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No need to point someone. People know who are "real" and who are "fake" ...pretending... scientists, engineers and technicians here.

You are one of the pretenders... as others that don't know anything about e.g. electronics apart the pcb they made watching at magazines but like to stay here selling some snake oil to the masses.

you also born loser!

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Max
PCB 7 in Pistoldetector is snake oil for you Max. Please,drink more Irish wisky and all illusions vanish from your head...

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