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Old 03-18-2011, 11:53 PM
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As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"
Ok, why not, LRL´s are new discoveries and technologies too advanced to be explained...But then why have their practical uses never been demonstrated?
People like the ones you mentioned used to demonstrate their find by experiments, even if they were wrong about explanations .
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:34 AM
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I must have been mistaken. By chance have you been involved in atomic weapons or fissionable materials? Are you saying that elements do not have a unique
frequency based on their atomic make up?
Are you saying the basic frequency generator will replicate the effects of a Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy (NMR spectroscopy)?
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:57 AM
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Jim, not a chance. But it could hit a harmonic of the actually frequency. Now, it is an accident when that happens, which is what causes the % of finds to be so low.

When you do get close, you are also in a harmonic of several other elements, as the S/G is not nearly precise enough to "hit" gold or silver by themselves.

Understand that a sample target on top of the ground is not the same as a long buried target. Here's where the scam comes in. IF a device can locate a sample, that doesn't mean
it can find buried targets.
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Old 03-19-2011, 02:13 AM
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Fred;

I can't speak for anyone outside my circle. Some of the phenomena I have seen has only happened once. To think it could be reproduced on demand is out of the question.

We are lucky to have any success 1 out of 8 or 10 trips. Too many variables with current equipment. However, after the last trip, my southern counterpart has made recovery every time he has went. I haven't had time to prove out the last changes we developed.

He says they are working, but until I see it,, well you know. I've heard that before.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:19 AM
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I see.
So, from your personal experience, and in other words, it doesn´t really work, and we don´t know why.
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Understand that a sample target on top of the ground is not the same as a long buried target. Here's where the scam comes in. IF a device can locate a sample, that doesn't mean
it can find buried targets.
The punch line to the whole joke is, that none of the LRLs can even locate a sample target.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:04 AM
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The punch line to the whole joke is, that none of the LRLs can even locate a sample target.
This is a $10,000+ joke...

It won't stop being a joke until people think they should rely on it to keep them safe from explosives in a war zone.

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Old 03-19-2011, 06:36 AM
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Fred;
you may want to read that one again. If that's what came out of my statement, it wasn"t what I meant. More like it's not reliable for the exact target every time.

Carl ,I know. We just guess so much better than we should it feels better to say it that way. We already tried the little experiment about throwing the 10 golf balls out and it did work just like you said in the yard. Except we did not find silver or gold. The farmhouse has been there for over 100yrs,,,,but when we threw them in the field,,,,, well you don't want to hear that one again. On with the "guessing".
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Old 03-19-2011, 06:54 AM
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Let me give you an example of one of these 1 time only episodes. For those that don't want to believe it, I'm lying. For those that want to hear what happened, here it is.

We were on an Island where treasure had been found years ago in several spots.

I set a machine (that does not work) up and could not get a stable lock. It kept moving around. I kept fooling with the fine tuning (which does not work) and it kept moving.
As it was going into the wind, I kept thinking maybe a radar antenna was messing with it.

It was at a 90 deg angle and one of the crew popped up over a hill right where it was pointed, and as he walked down the dune it followed him. I asked him what he had been doing and it was the same track i had been following. I had put in the wrong numbers and have never been able to make it do that again.

Now, if I was tricking myself, should I not be able to trick myself again when I wanted it to do that? I'm sure there is some convoluted reason someone will come up with but it may not be the truth, only comfortable.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:19 PM
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Jim, not a chance. But it could hit a harmonic of the actually frequency. Now, it is an accident when that happens, which is what causes the % of finds to be so low.

When you do get close, you are also in a harmonic of several other elements, as the S/G is not nearly precise enough to "hit" gold or silver by themselves.

Understand that a sample target on top of the ground is not the same as a long buried target. Here's where the scam comes in. IF a device can locate a sample, that doesn't mean
it can find buried targets.
No sir. The basic frequency generator cannot "hit a harmonic of the actually frequency". This is the same gobbledygook LRL salesmen use, and gullible victims fall for.
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:17 PM
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I was certainly wrong. Thanks for helping me with that. I could have saved a lot of training if I would have just come here sooner. Pity

Could you give me an idea of a short list of the actual lower harmonics of gold, say around the -10 magnitude?
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Old 03-19-2011, 06:01 PM
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Carl ,I know. We just guess so much better than we should it feels better to say it that way. We already tried the little experiment about throwing the 10 golf balls out and it did work just like you said in the yard. Except we did not find silver or gold. The farmhouse has been there for over 100yrs,,,,but when we threw them in the field,,,,, well you don't want to hear that one again. On with the "guessing".
And yet the punch line still applies.
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:33 PM
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If they called them"Guessing Enhancers", would you feel better? I would refer to them as GEs from now on if it would be easier on everybody.

Maybe some day you can see just how well we have refined this guessing. Who knows?

Bottom line, I am on your side on any device that is promoted to find explosives or is over priced.

Not even metal detectors are safe to use with proximity, plastic, or remote det. bombs.

Got to run,got a guessing experiment cooking outside.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:06 PM
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I was certainly wrong. Thanks for helping me with that. I could have saved a lot of training if I would have just come here sooner. Pity

Could you give me an idea of a short list of the actual lower harmonics of gold, say around the -10 magnitude?
Of course you were wrong. If your training had anything to do with NMR spectroscopy or how to obtain NMR frequencies your "training" was a laughing failure.
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:23 AM
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I was being facetious. You wouldn't have caught it though.

Was the list in that cute little answer? And I'm sooo impressed as is everyone else.

If you can't answer the question, no need to be testy.

Now of course i may be wrong again, but I doubt you have ever had to "double" dress to enter a "Hot" area as I have, so I'm thinking you have no first hand knowledge of what you
"think" you are talking about.

A simple "I don't know about the harmonics" would be a lot better than an attack like that.

One more time and you get the IGNORE treatment. Kisses
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:31 AM
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I was being facetious.
I think being foolish is more apt. Either way, you are a laugh.
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:40 AM
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Yes , I was foolish to think you could answer the question. Since you are here just to argue
say hello to my little friend--- the ignore button
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Yes , I was foolish to think you could answer the question. Since you are here just to argue
say hello to my little friend--- the ignore button
Yes, you are foolish. Many on this forum will agree
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:03 AM
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Remember what Christopher Hills said,to paraphrase "Secondhand knowledge on this subject is about as much use as reason is to a mindless fool."
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:15 AM
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Hi Mike;

Have you tried the stainless yet? We are having good results. A lot of signals that we had chased dropped out and some stayed in and intensified. Much easier to pinpoint now.
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What are you using, welding rod? Is there a special alloy?
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:56 PM
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We are using rods made out of a 3 ft long 1/8 and a 3/16 welding stick. Buy 2 extra ones and email me before you go out. I use the heavier one in high winds or for more discrimination.
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:03 PM
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The "300" series alloys are non-magnetic. I guess this is what you are using. That rod I sent you is just very slightly magnetic. It's best to ground any of them before each search.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:17 AM
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Right, they are E R 308 L . I was trying to copy yours, but they are dam hard to work with.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:47 AM
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No sir. The basic frequency generator cannot "hit a harmonic of the actually frequency". This is the same gobbledygook LRL salesmen use, and gullible victims fall for.
Maybe you should watch this before stating your facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aRKA...e_gdata_player

You may learn something.
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