Pistol like Mineoro

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by detectoman

may be dc20008 has wires cores reversed for current morgan's examination
morgan mete frecuentemente las narices dentro de todos los aparatos para curiosiar

Of course,and my DC2008 no exception,i open and saw inside,that this one works in principle of electromagnetic resonance and as also THE EYE infrared . Maybe its unique ? Damasio´s masterpiece ???

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Of course,and my DC2008 no exception,i open and saw inside,that this one works in principle of electromagnetic resonance and as also THE EYE infrared . Maybe its unique ? Damasio´s masterpiece ???

All Mineoro DC is not the same?
Maybe you get an average one, and maybe a good one because they are built different inside?
Is this the same for FG?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by J_Player

All Mineoro DC is not the same?
Maybe you get an average one, and maybe a good one because they are built different inside?
Is this the same for FG?

Best wishes,
J_P

Something strange,i dont know,i imagine all models DC2008 identical,production in serie...

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Something strange,i dont know,i imagine all models DC2008 identical,production in serie...

At the price they are, you only need to build one per year and you can rest for the remaining time.
The following year, you dont remember how was built the previous one...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Attachment 11531


Dont know what DC2008 you have in Paraguay,but my one detect gold and metal near the Ionic Chamber

I think you need to "rob" the sensibility and see what happens. Sometimes excess of sensibility produces false beeps regarding capacitances, for example, when you move near the soil this detector. This is the video posted by you to me. Write the code and wait 45 seconds. After this time, you can download.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SAGMWS80

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I think you need to "rob" the sensibility and see what happens. Sometimes excess of sensibility produces false beeps regarding capacitances, for example, when you move near the soil this detector. This is the video posted by you to me. Write the code and wait 45 seconds. After this time, you can download.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SAGMWS80

This is the picture you put in the forum about dc2008.
Acording you,its possible to detect metal near the coil,seems you forget about this.

regards

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Don't know DC2008 wich can detect metal in front...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Attachment 11539

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.

Ok,i was wrong but is i think it as some similarities...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.

Anyway still a DC2008 after your modifications,or change the name ???

Regards




So is this MINEORO DC2008 able to locate one large coin near the coil or not ???

I think yes...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Anyway still a DC2008 after your modifications,or change the name ???

Regards

Attachment 11615


So is this MINEORO DC2008 able to locate one large coin near the coil or not ???

I think yes...

Is this the Alonso´s PD Passive Receiver inside Mineoro DC 2008,Hummm,i supose yes...
In my DC this PCB is covered with black resin...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.

Corrections are acepted if i´m wrong

master Esteban...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Corrections are acepted if i´m wrong

master Esteban...

???

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Is this the Alonso´s PD Passive Receiver inside Mineoro DC 2008,Hummm,i supose yes...
In my DC this PCB is covered with black resin...

Yes, it is PCB5

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Geo

Yes, it is PCB5

o,why this PCB not as the black resine as other DC2008 models ???

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Geo

Yes, it is PCB5

Hi Geo

As Esteban remains so silent,i can ask you this question :

The Passive Receiver can work as METAL DETECTOR inside DC2008 model,maibe we can use the same as Mineoro,toroidal coil and single loop(instead of ferrite) in the Pistoldetektor PCB 5 ??? I think it will be very sensitive !!!

Dont you think?


Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

o,why this PCB not as the black resine as other DC2008 models ???

If you will look carefully, you will see that the black resin is down the passive receiver.
Also look the color of the passive receiver pcb, and the main pcb of Mineoro.
I believe that Esteban put this pcb later to the DC2008

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Geo

As Esteban remains so silent,i can ask you this question :

The Passive Receiver can work as METAL DETECTOR inside DC2008 model,maibe we can use the same as Mineoro,toroidal coil and single loop(instead of ferrite) in the Pistoldetektor PCB 5 ??? I think it will be very sensitive !!!

Dont you think?


Regards

Passive receiver can work as magnetic or electrostatic detector. Remember my Pistol at your home

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Geo

If you will look carefully, you will see that the black resin is down the passive receiver.
Also look the color of the passive receiver pcb, and the main pcb of Mineoro.
I believe that Esteban put this pcb later to the DC2008

No,the photo with passive receiver comes with the note DC2008 as original,then it comes the other photo with modifications...


Thanks Geo

[Fred]

Esteban gives lots of info , but never when or what we need

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Fred

Esteban gives lots of info , but never when or what we need

Hi Fred

As you can see,he already give a lot of info. see this pictures ?
I´m trying to understant how passive receiver can work in PD without ferrite,i think i go to try the same as in Mineoro DC2008,other kind of antenna,i want to avoid the critical adjustments,this will happen when PD become very sensitive using Passive Receiver alone. For exemple,the model DC2008 detect very good gold objects size of large coin,20 cm from the resonating chamber or antenna using this Pass. Receiver...
I think from this images we can learn something usefull for upgrade the PD.

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Maybe, Esteban intentionally place PD's passive receiver in the DC2008 for us to think that the passive receiver can be made to be used in mineoro detectors after esteban making some experiment. The problem is that Esteban will not give us the complete specifications. He always mislead people in this forum.

regards...

[WM6]

There is no easy way to the mystical Land of Gold.

[Fred]

Actually from what Esteban said from so long time I think the precise details are unimportant.
I can be from audio up to VHf band, the "antenna" can be loop telescopic or ferrite, the output must be triggered and make something beep when there is variations on the ambient noise.
Of course there is the electrostatic stuff which works the same way but with voltage instead of RF. And the supreme device which use both.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Fred

Actually from what Esteban said from so long time I think the precise details are unimportant.
I can be from audio up to VHf band, the "antenna" can be loop telescopic or ferrite, the output must be triggered and make something beep when there is variations on the ambient noise.
Of course there is the electrostatic stuff which works the same way but with voltage instead of RF. And the supreme device which use both.

Maybe there is a better way than using both. If you combine the electrostatic and magnetic loop RF with an LED for optical frequencies, then you will have a 3-way detection system. But even better would be to include an additional static magnetic sensor for quadro detection. Of course you would need to program a PIC to process these four signals properly before causing the 555 to make beeps. For example, when the static magnetic sensor detected magnetic north, then the processor would make a correction by subtracting the magnetic north influence from the signal so it you would not make a mistake to think this is a gold signlal. And the processor should subtract broadcast RF and modulation as well as 50/60 Hz power signals to remove EMI noise from the treasure signal. Then the remaining treasure signal could be easily processed to determine exactly what metal you detected at what distance and how deep in the ground, as well as it's weight.

The resultant "cleaned" treasure signal would be so good that you could call the quadro-detector the supreme LRL.
Think so?

Best wishes,
J_P