rangertell examiner field trials

[Dell Winders]

W.I.S.

Max, you have reaffirmed the obvious mentality of the Scientific pretenders posting on Geotech. I rest my case on the ignorance of your reply. Dell

[Dell Winders]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban
But treasures are very "noisy", so is easy to "hear" it with coils.
all the same BS from him...

noi way!

Now also noise... so one can hear for treasures!

What next !? Treasure will smell of something... ???

Snake-oil selling here... as always!

W.I.S.

In the 1930's Prospectors used crystal radios to search for placer deposits. When they walked over shallow Gold deposits they would hear "crackling" noises in the head set.

Max, you have reaffirmed the obvious mentality of the Scientific pretenders posting on Geotech. I rest my case based on the ignorance of the reply you gave. Dell

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

W.I.S.

In the 1930's Prospectors used crystal radios to search for placer deposits. When they walked over shallow Gold deposits they would hear "crackling" noises in the head set.

Max, you have reaffirmed the obvious mentality of the Scientific pretenders posting on Geotech. I rest my case based on the ignorance of the reply you gave. Dell

But you haven't explained your all encompassing ignorance. You know, the ignorance of not knowing what is inside the do-nothing black boxes that you sell.

Your name is on them, so why wouldn't you know about the hot glue and the other do-nothing crap that you put in there to fool the gullible and technically-challenged.

Incidentally, there ARE NOT two kinds of dowsing "mental" and "physical". There is only DOWSING, and I don't care if you sell Dowsing with a needle and thread or a box of do-nothing crap that you plug into the ground.... it all still works as a result of an ideomotor response from the operator. The box of do-nothing crap is completely superfluous and adds nothing to the whole dowsing act, except of course to give you a trumped up excuse to charge some poor sap $695 plus shipping and handling.

And, btw, if you take issue with the above statement, please do so with proof positive data of why you are right and I am wrong. Simply calling me names and side-stepping the issue is NOT proof positive data.

[Dell Winders]

W.I.S.

The price is $950, not $695. Shipping is FREE within the Continental USA.

Even an idiot can see what is inside. Anyone can remove 4 screws and see for themselves. A little bit of clear epoxy to hold the circuit board in place, and Black epoxy to encapulsate the antenna, but no hot glue? Dell

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

W.I.S.


The price is $950, not $695. Even an idiot can know what is inside. Anyone can remove 4 screws and see for themselves. A little bit of clear epoxy to hold the circuit board in place, but no hot glue. Dell

Only an idiot could look inside because only an idiot would fall for such a fraudulent scam piece of junk. Whether the rip-off price is $695, or $950, or $2950; as a treasure locating device it isn't worth 10 cents to the idiot buyer.

It only locates treasure (cash) once, when the idiot forks over cash to the LRL/MFD scam artist. After that, it serves no purpose and has a cash value of scrap plastic and used electronics components; roughly 10 cents a pound on the scrap market.

Idiots beware....

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

You can get started here. Don't expect immediate results. Practice the basic "belly" breathing here--slow breaths using your diaphram, especially before using the Examiner or other locator device. Twenty minutes should work. This is the path to meditation. I would avoid the advanced breathing techniques like holding your breath. This can be dangerous and you really need an instructor. Read the warnings.

http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/pranayama/

I really wanted to wait until you have some practice with the rod, but I can tell you to avoid fixating on the rod itself. This is a common mistake when learning any new equipment. You want your awareness on the search area, not the rod. Don't worry, you will notice when it responds.

Also, you want to be several feet away from the target. If you are too close, your energy field will interact with the target's field and you won't feel it. The hottest areas are the edges of the target's field. For a small target this might be a circle six feet in diameter. As you sweep the rod through the search area, try to imagine you have a very long stick and feel for the target's field like it is a big bubble. It's like there is a field membrane where the polarity changes. The target itself will not give as good a response.

I noticed you said you wanted something that works 100%. That's isn't going to happen unless you are perfect. I know ALL skeptics think they are, but that's delusional. The rod is only going to be as good as the operator's skill level. Typically the beginner is going to have mental interference. This might be more than you can overcome, so you are going to have to work hard at eliminating negative thoughts and doubts. If you can get the meditation down, your mind will be still and it won't be "your own worst enemy".

When you are actually searching for a hidden target, you might get more than one response. Put a marker down on each line and try to learn where you went right and where you went wrong.

That's enough for now.

Thanks for the tips, Mike(Mont).

There may be a place for using your suggestions in the testing program. But for the initial tests I plan on following the manufacturers instructions exactly. This means if the instructions don't say I should meditate or try yoga or breathing exercises before looking for a target, then I wont. the manufacturer says the Rangertell Examiner is not a dowsing rod, but works on electronic principles instead. I once read that the reason why a person must be holding the pistol is to complete the circuit to ground with the right hand (left hand will have the wrong polarity). But this is second-hand information. I will read the instructions sent by the manufacturer and follow them with the idea that the manufacturer knows how his invention is designed to be used.

Of course there is a lot of controversy about the working/non-working of the Examiner, as well as controversy about the principles on which it is alleged to work. But in order to make a fair test, I will presume the manufacturer/inventor knows more about the correct operating methods than others know.

After all, the Rangertell Examiner advertising does not say the user needs to perform mental, physical or spiritual exercises in order for it to work. It is supposed to work by simply following the instructions. This is the basis of fair testing. I plan to begin as any ordinary person who wants to find hidden targets, without special gifted abilities or yoga training. The premise of the Rangertell Examiner is that it works for most people as soon as it is properly tuned. As an example, suppose I practised your instructions and found that they magically made me into an expert dowser. Then who would know if the dowsing was finding the targets, or the Rangertell examiner was finding them? I am sure that by deviating from the instructions in the early stages of testing, we would start a forum war between LRL enthusiasts and skeptics. It wouldn't be wise.

But your instructions are what I am looking for in the event that I don't find the kind of success that that we are shooting for. If I have trouble getting the Examiner to work, and if I have exhausted all the manufacturer recommended methods without success, then I will rely on tips like the ones you suggested. If it gets to that point, I will follow your instructions exactly, and I will be asking for more tips.

Thank you for sharing your tips on operating the Rangertell Examiner.
I will archive them in my repository of tests to perform toward the end of the testing program.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Yeah, right. i think if you look you won't see anywhere I spoke about dowsing. His instructions might work for normal people, but skeptics aren't normal. They ooze negativity out their soul. Like one skeptic said he was "totally unbiased", it's delusional. The breathing exercises were an attempt to tone this down. It's okay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTwFl6OIAk

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Yeah, right. i think if you look you won't see anywhere I spoke about dowsing. His instructions might work for normal people, but skeptics aren't normal. They ooze negativity out their soul. Like one skeptic said he was "totally unbiased", it's delusional. The breathing exercises were an attempt to tone this down. It's okay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTwFl6OIAk

Nope, you didn't say dowsing. But this is exactly what skeptics are saying when they hear your words. Personally I just don't feel like wading through more dowsing debates when we have more important business at hand, so I would rather save the yoga/meditation stuff until the initial testing is done.

Well then, I s'pose my trials will be done by a skeptic oozing with negativity, per Mike(Mont)'s appraisal. But don't despair, even if the Rangrtell Examiner works perfectly without breathing exercises as the factory says it will, I will still try your suggestions toward the end of the test program. Who knows, maybe your suggestions will change me into the kind of person you consider the ideal earth being.

In the mean time, I will consider the manufacturer to be the authority on how to use his products, and I will give him a fair shot with testing done to his standards by more people than just myself. When time permits I will be holding some demonstration events where treasure hunting skeptics as well as LRL enthusiasts will be invited to try their hand at the RangerTell Examiner. You will be invited too. This will allow you to demonstrate your techniques to show without a doubt how well they work.

I can guarantee all the skeptics watching will be anxious to learn your methods after they see your outstanding performance recovering gold with the Examiner. And it will be a good chance for all the LRL enthusiasts to point their fingers at skeptics and laugh "I told you so". You may make LRL history if your methods work.

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Remember anytime you are using a conscious effort, you are blocking out the subtle energies. All this is difficult, almost overwhelming, to perform when you have so many things to remember.

Ummm... I have no plan to try to remember anything during the tests. Once the Examiner is set, I plan to let it do it's thing and find the target. I have no reason to focus on the antenna or treasure or anything else. Maybe I will occasionally stop to check whether I am following the manufacturer's instructions. Personally, I don't see anything difficult about it at all as long as I am not trying to remember a lot of stuff.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Nope, you didn't say dowsing. But this is exactly what skeptics are saying when they hear your words. Personally I just don't feel like wading through more dowsing debates when we have more important business at hand, so I would rather save the yoga/meditation stuff until the initial testing is done.

Well then, I s'pose my trials will be done by a skeptic oozing with negativity, per Mike(Mont)'s appraisal. But don't despair, even if the Rangrtell Examiner works perfectly without breathing exercises as the factory says it will, I will still try your suggestions toward the end of the test program. Who knows, maybe your suggestions will change me into the kind of person you consider the ideal earth being.

In the mean time, I will consider the manufacturer to be the authority on how to use his products, and I will give him a fair shot with testing done to his standards by more people than just myself. When time permits I will be holding some demonstration events where treasure hunting skeptics as well as LRL enthusiasts will be invited to try their hand at the RangerTell Examiner. You will be invited too. This will allow you to demonstrate your techniques to show without a doubt how well they work.

I can guarantee all the skeptics watching will be anxious to learn your methods after they see your outstanding performance recovering gold with the Examiner. And it will be a good chance for all the LRL enthusiasts to point their fingers at skeptics and laugh "I told you so". You may make LRL history if your methods work.

Ummm... I have no plan to try to remember anything during the tests. Once the Examiner is set, I plan to let it do it's thing and find the target. I have no reason to focus on the antenna or treasure or anything else. Maybe I will occasionally stop to check whether I am following the manufacturer's instructions. Personally, I don't see anything difficult about it at all as long as I am not trying to remember a lot of stuff.


Best wishes,
J_P

Way to go J_P, you are approaching the testing procedure EXACTLY the way I would do it, if I were doing the testing. The inventor/manufacturer should know best how to operate his own instrument, and his instructions should be followed precisely. That is the only fair way to evaluate the instrument.

I was once involved in the testing of an LRL/MFD device, where I made my test procedure and results public (after getting permission from the inventor). One or two chastised me for certain facets of the test procedure, because it didn't fit "their" idea of how it should be tested. I then reminded them that I followed the recommendations from the inventor exactly, and that if anyone should know how it should be tested, it would only be the inventor. Probably you've guessed by now.... the device did not operate as advertised, or claimed. Mike and others will contend that the fault lies with me the tester because of negative vibs and all the other silly excuses; but the inventor DID NOT make any such stipulations about my vibs either negative or positive. When (or if) the Examiner fails to operate correctly for you; you will hear the same things.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Yeah, right. Too bad it only works in your hemisphere.

No, work in 2 hemispheres.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Esteban

No, work in 2 hemispheres.

Whatever you think.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

...I really wanted to wait until you have some practice with the rod, but I can tell you to avoid fixating on the rod itself. This is a common mistake when learning any new equipment. You want your awareness on the search area, not the rod. Don't worry, you will notice when it responds.

(...) The hottest areas are the edges of the target's field. (...) As you sweep the rod through the search area, try to imagine you have a very long stick and feel for the target's field like it is a big bubble. It's like there is a field membrane where the polarity changes....

Is that only me? this is so funny

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Rangertell

J Player

We have decided to send you an Examiner free of charge. If you find it suitable you can pay us then. It's too hard to find a user in your district.

The unit will be sent next week if you give me an address.

Rangertell

J_Player,

Any status update or info that you can share with the group? Is the Examiner in the mail yet? Any idea when it is expected to arrive?

[Rangertell]

J_Player


See email for shipping latest.

RT

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

J_Player,

Any status update or info that you can share with the group? Is the Examiner in the mail yet? Any idea when it is expected to arrive?

Hi Theseus,
Yes, I received an email from Rangertell:

The Examiner TG has been sent and should reach you in 7 to 10 working days.
Enjoy!


Note: 'Re Depth' on PDF, pls see amended attached.

The Examiner should be arriving soon, and I will keep the Geotech forum informed of new developments. (The PDF attached is a short note giving a technical tip for using the Examiner). I am currently preparing a website for the testing and demonstration program, and will be giving details when it is ready. Expect to see some posts about this in about two weeks from now.

Many thanks to Rangertell for taking the initiative to become the first manufacturer to send a long range locator unit for testing by a member of the Geotech forum.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

That´s great news JP !

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Many thanks to Rangertell for taking the initiative to become the first manufacturer to send a long range locator unit for testing by a member of the Geotech forum.

Several years ago, Mr. Blanes sent me a "Goldscrew" to test. I've just never mentioned it.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Several years ago, Mr. Blanes sent me a "Goldscrew" to test. I've just never mentioned it.

Hi Carl,
A goldscrew? What's that?
Is it something that Rangertell manufactured?

Are there any test results?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Carl,
A goldscrew? What's that?
Is it something that Rangertell manufactured?

Are there any test results?

Best wishes,
J_P

Yes, it's a RangerTell product. There's a reference on their website ->
http://www.rangertell.com/booster.htm
Apparently Sam and Carl are the only people in the world who cannot use it ... because they are left-handed.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Apparently Sam and Carl are the only people in the world who cannot use it ... because they are left-handed.

In the northern hemisphere that should not be a problem ??

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

In the northern hemisphere that should not be a problem ??

Who knows? It's just another excuse to add to the list.
And what happens at the equator?

[Dell Winders]

Apparently Sam and Carl are the only people in the world who cannot use it ... because they are left-handed.

According to Carl, & Sam, they are not mentally capable of learning, or refuse to learn in order to prevent libel and defeat the Skeptic agenda.

I have practiced, and learned to use LRLs successfully the same as most any one can. If a dumb, uneducated Kentucky hillibilly Hillbilly can learn to use these products, surly any one can. Does that make me smarter, open minded, or more intelligent than Carl, or Sam? They compliment my intelligence and degrade themselves every time they claim LRL's can't possibly work. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

According to Carl, & Sam, they are not mentally capable of learning, or refuse to learn in order to prevent libel and defeat the Skeptic agenda.

I have practiced, and learned to use LRLs successfully the same as most any one can. If a dumb, uneducated Kentucky hillibilly Hillbilly can learn to use these products, surly any one can. Does that make me smarter, open minded, or more intelligent than Carl, or Sam? They compliment my intelligence and degrade themselves every time they claim LRL's can't possibly work. Dell

No. It simply shows that you are susceptible to self-delusion and selective memory.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK , CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK"

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Apparently Sam and Carl are the only people in the world who cannot use it ... because they are left-handed.

Are you serious? I'm left-handed? That explains everything... bad penmanship, dropped peas, gutter balls... I've been using the wrong hand!

[Dell Winders]

It's the stupidest excuse for failure that I've heard. You the W.I.S. man, Qiaozhi.