GOLD ion detector...

[Dell Winders]

W.I.S.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

W.I.S.

What does that mean?

"Winders Is Skeptical" ???

Surely not!

[Max]

wisdom is silence

I think he made a joke against Robert... that's absent from here...

Hope he will see and answer Dell his way...

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Theseus

I know.... but some here have a "belief system" that includes the idea that buried treasure emits some type of RF (or other radiations); and I was merely pointing out that in fact - THEY DO NOT.

When the treasure is entirely closed in iron box, this can not detected at distance because this iron acts as a shield.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Esteban

When the treasure is entirely closed in iron box, this can not detected at distance because this iron acts as a shield.

Are you making an inference that if the buried treasure were not in an iron box, that it can be detected from long distances? If so, please tell us how and provide a believable demonstration.

Also, is iron the only thing that will block "your phenomenon"? What about a box made of steel, or glass, or a plastic garbage bag, or a wooden box lined with tin foil, or a leather pouch.

How about if I place buried treasure in plastic zip-lock refrigerator bag?

Inquiring minds would like to know.....

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Esteban

When the treasure is entirely closed in iron box, this can not detected at distance because this iron acts as a shield.

Wrong, iron box can not suppress ion radiation of gold.

See on picture below invincible gold ions radiation taked by Kirilian camera:



Gold is buried in metal box 1.73m deep.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Are you making an inference that if the buried treasure were not in an iron box, that it can be detected from long distances? If so, please tell us how and provide a believable demonstration.

Also, is iron the only thing that will block "your phenomenon"? What about a box made of steel, or glass, or a plastic garbage bag, or a wooden box lined with tin foil, or a leather pouch.

How about if I place buried treasure in plastic zip-lock refrigerator bag?

Inquiring minds would like to know.....

If the box of steel or iron is entirely closed, no, because acts as a shield. But if has a small hole caused by oxidation or has aberture like for the key, no problem, but in this case signal is not strong. No problem with plastic, clay pottery, glass, wood, etc. Even if the box is made of copper or bronze, no problem, because detection is for good conductive metals.
But always the metal must be buried some years.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Esteban

......because detection is for good conductive metals.
But always the metal must be buried some years.

If you compare the conductivity of iron, steel, copper, bronze, silver or gold with glass, plastic or dry wood; they would all be considered "good" conductors.

I must be missing something here....

[Agribus]

Originally Posted by WM6

See on picture below invincible gold ions radiation taked by Kirilian camera:



Gold is buried in metal box 1.73m deep.

I can't believe: If a treasure, shows radiation in a Kirlian camera, this would be the first choice in gold exploration!

We only need a "real time kirlian TV"

Seems so good to be true! Come on! Any further references?

[Max]

Originally Posted by Agribus

I can't believe: If a treasure, shows radiation in a Kirlian camera, this would be the first choice in gold exploration!

We only need a "real time kirlian TV"

Seems so good to be true! Come on! Any further references?

too good, to be true

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Agribus

I can't believe: If a treasure, shows radiation in a Kirlian camera, this would be the first choice in gold exploration!

We only need a "real time kirlian TV"

Seems so good to be true! Come on! Any further references?

I agree. Besides, kirilian photography has NOTHING to do with treasures "supposedly" radiating ions.

Kirlian photography refers to a form of photogram made with a high voltage. It is named after Semyon Kirlian, who in 1939 accidentally discovered that if an object on a photographic plate is connected to a source of high voltage, small corona discharges (created by the strong electric field at the edges of the object) create an image on the photographic plate. (Wikipedia)

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Theseus

If you compare the conductivity of iron, steel, copper, bronze, silver or gold with glass, plastic or dry wood; they would all be considered "good" conductors.

I must be missing something here....

Are good conductors, but doesn't exhibit the capability for to create the "field". Once was detected at some distance a complete roll of wire for fences (buried and oxidated), but maybe because form a kind of shape or "coil"... as you can "see", only pistol shows these effects.

If you use many wires in pistol, then you can detect also ferrous objects. But with few number of turns in coil, the coil almost don't be affected by iron and other ferric oxidated objects. Except... few months ago a "mountain" of big nails used in rails was detected at some meters, maybe buried more than 100 years ago. The rail at sight, open, in the air, don't be detected, but the acumulation of these intrincated iron buried for many years is another thing.

[Geo]

Hi Esteban.
My pistol also detected iron "rusted buckle". As it is bad conductor, how did it make the ".......field"???

Regards

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Are good conductors, but doesn't exhibit the capability for to create the "field". Once was detected at some distance a complete roll of wire for fences (buried and oxidated), but maybe because form a kind of shape or "coil"... as you can "see", only pistol shows these effects.

If you use many wires in pistol, then you can detect also ferrous objects. But with few number of turns in coil, the coil almost don't be affected by iron and other ferric oxidated objects. Except... few months ago a "mountain" of big nails used in rails was detected at some meters, maybe buried more than 100 years ago. The rail at sight, open, in the air, don't be detected, but the acumulation of these intrincated iron buried for many years is another thing.

I REPEAT:

Are you making an inference that if the buried treasure were not in an iron box, that it can be detected from long distances? If so, please tell us how and provide a believable demonstration.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Theseus

I REPEAT:

Are you making an inference that if the buried treasure were not in an iron box, that it can be detected from long distances? If so, please tell us how and provide a believable demonstration.

If the iron box is totally closed, detection at distance isn't possible. But if the "signal" "drift" through some hole, the pistol show as a small item, due the "scape" from hole. The only "believable" for me is a film... but not all the day you found an iron box full of gold coins... is very rare, but detection of sparzed objects or small treasures is possible to film.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Esteban.
My pistol also detected iron "rusted buckle". As it is bad conductor, how did it make the ".......field"???

Regards

In general, the iron isn't detectable with pistol (except if you design for iron), but iron object near valuable target can mask the detection.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Esteban

In general, the iron isn't detectable with pistol (except if you design for iron), but iron object near valuable target can mask the detection.

Ohhh what did you remember me!!!! A friend has a Fisher... very deep machine, very very good discrimination. I think CZ20... not sure this time.
When a ceramic or iron is near the target (coin, ring etc) it don't detect neither target neither ceremic or iron
So the sure is one.... my PD is not Fisher

Regards

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Geo

Ohhh what did you remember me!!!! A friend has a Fisher... very deep machine, very very good discrimination. I think CZ20... not sure this time.
When a ceramic or iron is near the target (coin, ring etc) it don't detect neither target neither ceremic or iron
So the sure is one.... my PD is not Fisher

Regards

There are some similarities between normal MD and pistol detector.

[detectoman]

esteban, but lrl is cold and too hot so detect at large range, cold for form how of is built, and hot due to this stuff is very nerveous, may be, i think

[Max]

hot and cold...

so what ?

Do you like LRL hot ? Good...

Cold ? Good...

At room temperature !? Good...

then ? Are we talking about wine and how to serve it ???

LRL for sure like wallet of people... hot or cold... doesn't really matter if it's full... and heavy!

[detectoman]

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[mohammad]

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Originally Posted by Max

1. not that way: the buried metal emits POSITIVE ions, cause lose electrons and losing negative charge atoms become positive ions

2. both old and "new" metals emit POSITIVE ions if right conditions exist

3. you need a positive ion sniffer: if you use a "squid" device you can do that from several meters far away, but device have huge price

4. easy to put in words, but practice is another thing: you need to cool the sniffer "squid" device at very low temperature, this way it's less sensitive to noise and can make more accurate detection, that means you can increase detection range also

Squid use superconducting material... and are hard to find and build without proper technology. Here you see in the picture are old sensors now obsolete , but you can make an idea of what's needed...

Kind regards,
Max

[taxma1981]

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[detectoman]

jajaj an little erratic but isnt clasifier