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Old 02-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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any one have circuit of lrl detector -removal with Lowest percentage error??
because of our country have a lot of mineral soil and in this case lrl errors is more and have to build a device can be removal all of the bad signals or Metal surface and just detect the frequency that we give to device..
if any body have some circuit please help me.
i think the best lrl have generator with prob and a circuit that contact to L rod..
i wait for any response
sry if my grammar is not good.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:45 PM
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HI
any one have circuit of lrl detector -removal with Lowest percentage error??
because of our country have a lot of mineral soil and in this case lrl errors is more and have to build a device can be removal all of the bad signals or Metal surface and just detect the frequency that we give to device..
if any body have some circuit please help me.
i think the best lrl have generator with prob and a circuit that contact to L rod..
i wait for any response
sry if my grammar is not good.
best regards
Before you spend any serious money on an LRL, please read Chapter 13 of "Inside the METAL DETECTOR" ->
www.geotech1.com/itmd
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:58 AM
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Before you spend any serious money on an LRL, please read Chapter 13 of "Inside the METAL DETECTOR" ->
www.geotech1.com/itmd
thanks Qiaozhi
what is your suggestion for a good lrl schematic that i build??
i want a devise like eliminator120 that can filter mineral and cancel search for surface metals!! is any schematic for this device can work like this?
lrl schematic with a filter is good for treasure hunt

thanks
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:02 AM
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thanks Qiaozhi
what is your suggestion for a good lrl schematic that i build??
i want a devise like eliminator120 that can filter mineral and cancel search for surface metals!! is any schematic for this device can work like this?
lrl schematic with a filter is good for treasure hunt

thanks
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If you read Chapter 13, you can then decide whether your first question makes any sense.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:14 AM
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Before you spend any serious money on an LRL, please read Chapter 13 of "Inside the METAL DETECTOR" ->
www.geotech1.com/itmd
Hi Qiaozhi,

Do you have described there what this wannabe totem LRL
detects exactly without that second, unneeded Heatkit circuit?


Is your knowledge in electronics extensive enough to extract this,
from the LRL-problematic seen, real needed circuit from the rest ?

And if yes, are you really able to tell us on which basis it operates?


In other words: Is it a simple motion-magnetometer, does it
detect long radio waves or do it reacts on different electrostatic
charges?
3 simple choices, and I'm shure it will not detect
mystical ghost fields or paranormal treasure-auras!


First please answer this question if you are expert enough for this.

And the second question would be:
Given that you are able to tell us that it is based on one of those
3 mentioned electromagnetical-field-structures:

Are you able to give an exactly prognosis by analyzing of this
seperated circuit, if there are no cross-over effects with
other electromagnetical energy field sources?


In other words: Is this circuit specialized enough or is it just a stupid:

"I grab all kind of different EM-input I can get and mix everything up"-crap???
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:15 AM
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Funfinder, you've been around the block enough times now to know what LRL's are. All of them detect "something", but what they don't detect is valuable buried objects at long distance. Any device that actually does detect valuable buried objects at a long distance is not regarded as an LRL, it's something else and there's no interest in it here. The LRL forum is for the stuff that doesn't work, not for stuff that does.

--Dave J.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:38 PM
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Hi Qiaozhi,

Do you have described there what this wannabe totem LRL
detects exactly without that second, unneeded Heatkit circuit?
I fail to understand your question.
TOTeM is a design I created for LRL experimenters to build and test in the real world. Not only will it save them spending vast sums of money on commercial non-working units, but they may learn something in the process. It has as much chance of finding treasure as any other LRL, and maybe even more due to it's built-in pinpointing capability. Remember, I've told you this before ... TOTeM stands for "Trick Of The Mind"!

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Is your knowledge in electronics extensive enough to extract this,
from the LRL-problematic seen, real needed circuit from the rest ?

And if yes, are you really able to tell us on which basis it operates?
Yes - a trick of the mind.

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In other words: Is it a simple motion-magnetometer, does it
detect long radio waves or do it reacts on different electrostatic
charges?
3 simple choices, and I'm shure it will not detect
mystical ghost fields or paranormal treasure-auras!
First please answer this question if you are expert enough for this.
It works by psychology.
i.e. Wishful thinking, selective memory and self deception.

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And the second question would be:
Given that you are able to tell us that it is based on one of those
3 mentioned electromagnetical-field-structures:
None of the above.

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Are you able to give an exactly prognosis by analyzing of this
seperated circuit, if there are no cross-over effects with
other electromagnetical energy field sources?
See previous answer.

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In other words: Is this circuit specialized enough or is it just a stupid:

"I grab all kind of different EM-input I can get and mix everything up"-crap???
What's the question?
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:13 AM
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OK, forget it, if this totem is an intentionally nonworking "fun-circuit"
and the creator is totally convinced that everything is just "a trick of the mind" anyway.
Its like talking to a vegetarian that a steak is yummy!

I thought you would have built something inspired by this old Mineoro stuff.
Perhaps it is, but you won't tell us because of fear about whats-o-ever.


So I ask what do you Q. wanna achieve with this?
If you built a circuit that just gives a randomized LED blink,
do you think you will anyone convince that LRL is just "trick of the mind" ?

At least you have to tell on what detection principle your Trick of the Mind circuit is based,
so everyone can recognize that and if a detection on this basis works for long range yes or not!



Why you don't go to Portugal and visit Morgan? Not everyone
thinks the same as you and the LRL opinion in the book so far
is no counter-proof at all.



OK, forget about your ToTeM:

The problem now is that your opinion is fixed anyway.

So its useless to ask you about what you think this also just:
"trick of the mind"-Circuit Morgan and Geo are experimenting with
detects or not.

Are you able to remove the heatkit thing from it or not?!


BY THE WAY: don't anyone fool me!

We see here the interest of Carl and Morgan who may spent around
1000 dollars for a so called nonworking OKM Bionic "trick of the mind"!

If this device is really totally crap, this would be a completly throwing away the money but I guess they have doubts and they wanna find out if there really is something working behind or not and exactly what... Gotcha.

btw. all new users of this forum should know that there is some kind of "conspiracy" is going on behind the scenes here, it has started already with the "hidden PDK forum" and I don't wanna know what else is going on here.

So there it's not shure that every infos that are publicated here in the "free visible forums" are representing the 100% truth, perhaps some info here is just for misleading and false propaganda!

We know already that our "mysterious-chandlers" here prefer to hide their discoveries from the public (instead of cooperating to work for a real working LRL, they better like to tinker around with not really useful results) and we have to assume that they could play the same "games" as Mineoro already does!


PS for what is this forum here? For creating bad mood?!
Unsatisfying answers here - without end!
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:57 AM
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OK, forget it, if this totem is an intentionally nonworking "fun-circuit"
and the creator is totally convinced that everything is just "a trick of the mind" anyway.
Its like talking to a vegetarian that a steak is yummy!

I thought you would have built something inspired by this old Mineoro stuff.
Perhaps it is, but you won't tell us because of fear about whats-o-ever.


So I ask what do you Q. wanna achieve with this?
If you built a circuit that just gives a randomized LED blink,
do you think you will anyone convince that LRL is just "trick of the mind" ?

At least you have to tell on what detection principle your Trick of the Mind circuit is based,
so everyone can recognize that and if a detection on this basis works for long range yes or not!
You can obtain all the answers, that you are desperately searching for, by reading Chapter 14.
Although I believe it works by a trick of the mind, others may not agree. And no, it is not an intentionally nonworking "fun-circuit"; it actually does something. Instead of asking the same questions ad infinitum, try waiting patiently until Goldmaxx and others have completed their tests.
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