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Old 01-18-2013, 07:39 PM
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Default Eliminator E-120

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Who knows, based on performance Eliminator E-120.How to remove the metal is worthless?
please explain
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:28 PM
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Well... This is something new!
Here's a video with YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Omon7TMf-LQ

This is ... a PCB:



User Manual is here:

http://www.deparltd.com/eng/html/uru...266&urunid=623

Enyou!!!

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Old 01-19-2013, 10:41 PM
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Well... This is something new!
Here's a video with YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Omon7TMf-LQ

This is ... a PCB:

User Manual is here:

http://www.deparltd.com/eng/html/uru...266&urunid=623

Enyou!!!

Regards!

Sneshko
This is clearly a simple circuit containing a variable oscillator that drives a shift register to flash the LEDs. Another trap for the technically-challenged dowser.
It's called the Eliminator, because it eliminates money from your wallet.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:30 AM
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This is clearly a simple circuit containing a variable oscillator that drives a shift register to flash the LEDs. Another trap for the technically-challenged dowser.
It's called the Eliminator, because it eliminates money from your wallet.
Well, it must be worth at least $20 or $30 if you include the enclosure around it.
Those parts are not free, right?



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Old 01-20-2013, 07:43 AM
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Well... This is something new!
Here's a video with YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Omon7TMf-LQ

This is ... a PCB:



User Manual is here:

http://www.deparltd.com/eng/html/uru...266&urunid=623

Enyou!!!

Regards!

Sneshko
tank you very much dear sneshko for reply
What is number Integrated Circuit ?(18 pin) and transistors?
What works on the basis of scientific?
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:36 AM
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The device is used to create interference and weaken the signal line from a frequency generator. You have to use L-rods first to find the discriminated signal line between the MFD (Molecular Frequency Discriminator) frequency generator and the suspected target. Then you insert the device in the ground on the signal line and adjust it until you can no longer detect the line with the L-rods. This gives an approximate weight/size of the target depending on where on the dial the target is no longer detected with the L-rods. Many targets detected with the frequency generators are micron sized particles and these are not worth digging but they are very easily detected with the L-rods because all the particles combined have a large surface area and they resonate with each other. Compare this to a gold bar, there is less surface area and no extra resonating. Without some sort of weight cancelling device there is no way of knowing if the target is worth digging or not.

The one disadvantage I see with this device is it takes a long time to check each signal line, but it's a lot less work than digging.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:40 AM
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The device is used to create interference and weaken the signal line from a frequency generator. You have to use L-rods first to find the discriminated signal line between the MFD (Molecular Frequency Discriminator) frequency generator and the suspected target. Then you insert the device in the ground on the signal line and adjust it until you can no longer detect the line with the L-rods. This gives an approximate weight/size of the target depending on where on the dial the target is no longer detected with the L-rods. Many targets detected with the frequency generators are micron sized particles and these are not worth digging but they are very easily detected with the L-rods because all the particles combined have a large surface area and they resonate with each other. Compare this to a gold bar, there is less surface area and no extra resonating. Without some sort of weight cancelling device there is no way of knowing if the target is worth digging or not.

The one disadvantage I see with this device is it takes a long time to check each signal line, but it's a lot less work than digging.
tank you very much freind
What is number Integrated Circuit ?(ic 18 pin)
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:31 AM
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tank you very much freind
What is number Integrated Circuit ?(ic 18 pin)
Maybe a LM3915 or a Pic...
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:43 PM
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I think that's right, it can be built in your garage. Just any chip with 18 pins should work just fine. Let us know how it works for you.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:27 PM
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It's just as fraudulent here as it was over on TNet:

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/lo...op-secret.html

--Dave J.

BTW, those of you who enjoy Mike's posts, he posted a bunch in that thread.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:18 PM
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In case anyone doesn't know, I was just making a joke.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:44 PM
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In case anyone doesn't know, I was just making a joke.
Many a true word is said in jest.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:03 PM
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I was joking when I said any 18 pin chip would work fine. I don't know much about electronics. Don't even know if that is an EPROM chip or what.

I would have my concerns about using this device with frequency generators that only run at low frequencies.Most people I know that use the FG's run below 1kHz. The video says 5kHz for gold plus 250Hz. Also their LRL's run at 24 volts. Unless yours runs that much voltage I doubt it will give the same weight cancelling, may overpower the FG even at the lowest setting. I don't know, just guessing. I use 135 mv at the highest power.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:22 PM
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Anybody use one of these? I found you can use a lower voltage battery for better pinpointing when used as a stand-alone MFD transmitter. Instead of the required 9 volt battery I used a 6 volt sealed lead acid battery 3 or 4 amp hours. The low battery light comes on but the device still puts out a signal but it is weaker. A set of 4 alkaline AA's should work but I haven't tried them with a target.
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