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Old 10-17-2012, 02:59 AM
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Today i join this web site that shows a new LRL devices at avery low price for treasures hunters.
This is some of the text from this web site:


Pocket
There are thousands of treasure hunters worldwide, want to work and gain a long-distance detector.
Some want to use it purely out of curiosity, others because it would be more easy to detect a region with this type of machinery. Others because they want a low cost to be trained to detect in this type of devices, first decide to invest in a specialized device of this type with multiple monetary value.


Unfortunately the actual detectors distances (as our model OBMD-1)
is a lot more expensive for treasure hunters especially those involved purely for the hobby.
Others distances with multiple detectors price, unfortunately not deliver for the price available in the market.
For all you have designed our new crypton-pocket model that combines
Long distance detection compared to the size of
Detection only just old buried objects (gold, silver, copper) and alloys in averaged distances over 10 meters
Too small size.
Handmade exclusively by wood
PRICE PERFORMANCE ONE SIMPLE METAL DETECTOR
to be able to give every treasure hunter.


World premiere of our original photos and details
will be Friday, Oct. 19, 2012.


Launch the Market October 22, 2012.

Maximum production of 60 pieces per month.
This means that there will
strict order of delivery orders by priority


For more information contact us
info@crypton.com.gr
crypton.com.gr @ gmail.com
And the phone 6947-043604


PRINCIPLE
Probably the only detector distance and beyond, based on the alteration of output voltage, a specific infrared sensor MURATA, when the transducer is affected by particle / s with sufficient energy and "beat" the surface. It is much smaller than one source 1mR give this change in sensor output. To make this possible but requires the simultaneous emission of infrared radiation to space research in the area and even pulsed modulated at a certain frequency modulated AM.


In crypton OBMD-1 is of interest only direct conversion of the received energy at high voltage and the voltage used to determine the initial energy. To make this possible, however, making the sensor should be in total darkness and cover exclusively from neutral material. This is the main reason that the crypton OBMD-1 can not use plastic containers because it is ridiculous, but unfortunately real, making the infrared sensor is sensitive to static fields that create plastic surfaces that surround it.
This specificity of sensitivity to static generating plastic surfaces, we are forced to use only wood box, sealed off the light, resulting in the increase of cost and time of the assembly model. Also another big advantage of wood is maintaining the temperature inside the device at a constant level. As a result the reliability of operation and in extreme high or low temperatures.
Copyright © 2012. All rights reserved.


In general, we have added benefits are:
1. You do not have specific pulse scanning left and right by the operator in the study area
2. It is not necessary to move the probe horizontally above the ground
3. We can adjust to any slope on the ground
4. Only with micrometric movements of the wrist can find the center of the target,
to within less than 1 square meter.


TEST METHOD
There are two options.
1. Random area (customer's choice) do research and just walking certify that scan disc at the time. In this tough test (random testing ground and not) that no other machine can not have success OBMD-1. In this case the customer is required to accept filming of the show.
2 If the person is away from Athens, it is possible to bring it into contact with our client who is near him, to meet and learn first hand the successes and opportunities provided through the client.


I asked the price for Crypton and this is 560 Euros, that for me sounds much much shipper than other LRL. Quality looks very profesional and the videos shows very interesting performance.


Regards

Nelson


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Old 10-17-2012, 05:07 AM
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It's fraudulent. As I so often say, "Read the advertisement!"

If someone still wants it after having been warned that it's fraudulent, and even having read the advertisement themselves, the best punishment for such wanton wilfulness is for the person to buy it-- with their own money of course, not someone else's!

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Old 10-17-2012, 02:43 PM
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Mmmm... yes but i have heard from a close friend that this are real LRL detectors and that realy works, so i think i will place an eye on this devices to see whats they realy can do, cause they are not Mineoro devices that don´t work has we expected.

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It's fraudulent. As I so often say, "Read the advertisement!"

If someone still wants it after having been warned that it's fraudulent, and even having read the advertisement themselves, the best punishment for such wanton wilfulness is for the person to buy it-- with their own money of course, not someone else's!

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Old 10-17-2012, 03:18 PM
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It's fraudulent. As I so often say, "Read the advertisement!"

If someone still wants it after having been warned that it's fraudulent, and even having read the advertisement themselves, the best punishment for such wanton wilfulness is for the person to buy it-- with their own money of course, not someone else's!

--Dave J.
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Dear sir. Your member "nickname dave j " publish this post
I think the best case is to baded this member, because, this member publish opinions your forum and that exposes you to us.
If you don't baded , we believe you are in favor of member feedback you and against whom disclosures and negative advertising.
Friday our site we have pics , price etc.
If you need more infos, we known, our partner Andreas is your member. You can ask him everything about new model "pocket"
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:10 PM
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I look forward to seeing the website, I'm confident that it will provide much more evidence of the fraudulent nature of the product.

I'm not opposed to people buying the thing. I say that anyone who reads this thread and the advertising who still wants one deserves to have one-- purchased with their own money, of course.

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Old 10-17-2012, 02:56 PM
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Today i join this web site that shows a new LRL devices at avery low price for treasures hunters.
This is some of the text from this web site:


Pocket
There are thousands of treasure hunters worldwide, want to work and gain a long-distance detector.
Some want to use it purely out of curiosity, others because it would be more easy to detect a region with this type of machinery. Others because they want a low cost to be trained to detect in this type of devices, first decide to invest in a specialized device of this type with multiple monetary value.


Unfortunately the actual detectors distances (as our model OBMD-1)
is a lot more expensive for treasure hunters especially those involved purely for the hobby.
Others distances with multiple detectors price, unfortunately not deliver for the price available in the market.
For all you have designed our new crypton-pocket model that combines
Long distance detection compared to the size of
Detection only just old buried objects (gold, silver, copper) and alloys in averaged distances over 10 meters
Too small size.
Handmade exclusively by wood
PRICE PERFORMANCE ONE SIMPLE METAL DETECTOR
to be able to give every treasure hunter.


World premiere of our original photos and details
will be Friday, Oct. 19, 2012.


Launch the Market October 22, 2012.

Maximum production of 60 pieces per month.
This means that there will
strict order of delivery orders by priority


For more information contact us
info@crypton.com.gr
crypton.com.gr @ gmail.com
And the phone 6947-043604


PRINCIPLE
Probably the only detector distance and beyond, based on the alteration of output voltage, a specific infrared sensor MURATA, when the transducer is affected by particle / s with sufficient energy and "beat" the surface. It is much smaller than one source 1mR give this change in sensor output. To make this possible but requires the simultaneous emission of infrared radiation to space research in the area and even pulsed modulated at a certain frequency modulated AM.


In crypton OBMD-1 is of interest only direct conversion of the received energy at high voltage and the voltage used to determine the initial energy. To make this possible, however, making the sensor should be in total darkness and cover exclusively from neutral material. This is the main reason that the crypton OBMD-1 can not use plastic containers because it is ridiculous, but unfortunately real, making the infrared sensor is sensitive to static fields that create plastic surfaces that surround it.
This specificity of sensitivity to static generating plastic surfaces, we are forced to use only wood box, sealed off the light, resulting in the increase of cost and time of the assembly model. Also another big advantage of wood is maintaining the temperature inside the device at a constant level. As a result the reliability of operation and in extreme high or low temperatures.
Copyright © 2012. All rights reserved.


In general, we have added benefits are:
1. You do not have specific pulse scanning left and right by the operator in the study area
2. It is not necessary to move the probe horizontally above the ground
3. We can adjust to any slope on the ground
4. Only with micrometric movements of the wrist can find the center of the target,
to within less than 1 square meter.


TEST METHOD
There are two options.
1. Random area (customer's choice) do research and just walking certify that scan disc at the time. In this tough test (random testing ground and not) that no other machine can not have success OBMD-1. In this case the customer is required to accept filming of the show.
2 If the person is away from Athens, it is possible to bring it into contact with our client who is near him, to meet and learn first hand the successes and opportunities provided through the client.


I asked the price for Crypton and this is 560 Euros, that for me sounds much much shipper than other LRL. Quality looks very profesional and the videos shows very interesting performance.


Regards

Nelson


Ok,nice price for the new Crypton,lets see if is better than the other model OBMD-1...

I didnt found tests with the MINI CRYPTON in youtube .
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:34 PM
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Ok,nice price for the new Crypton,lets see if is better than the other model OBMD-1...

I didnt found tests with the MINI CRYPTON in youtube .
Cryfton OBMD-1 is a simple magnetic field detector from Andy Flind, nothing else.
I hope the mini Cryfton to be something good that REALLY work at least at 10...20m.
I am very curious to see a test between your PDK and this.

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Cryfton OBMD-1 is a simple magnetic field detector from Andy Flind, nothing else.
I hope the mini Cryfton to be something good that REALLY work at least at 10...20m.
I am very curious to see a test between your PDK and this.

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Hi Geo,
Are you aware that what you say is wrong?
I have seen photos of the inside of the Crypton sent by email, which show this is not a magnetic field detector, and not even an Andy Flynd circuit.
The Crypton is something much different electronically.
Maybe you should not believe the photos you see in the Greek forum that show what circuit board will be used in a future locator.
Think so?

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Old 10-18-2012, 05:49 AM
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Hi Geo,
Are you aware that what you say is wrong?
I have seen photos of the inside of the Crypton sent by email, which show this is not a magnetic field detector, and not even an Andy Flynd circuit.
The Crypton is something much different electronically.
Maybe you should not believe the photos you see in the Greek forum that show what circuit board will be used in a future locator.
Think so?

Best wishes,
J_P
Hi J_P.
Maybe you have seen photos from something else. Another friend who saw the Cryfton says that it is the pcb who attached at Greek forums where it is the Andy Flind MFD.

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Hi J_P.
Maybe you have seen photos from something else. Another friend who saw the Cryfton says that it is the pcb who attached at Greek forums where it is the Andy Flind MFD.

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Hi Geo,
How does this "Another friend" know what is inside the crypton?
Did he actually see the circuit board and transistors that are inside a working crypton?
Or is he simply guessing what he thinks is inside like you did?

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Cryfton OBMD-1 is a simple magnetic field detector from Andy Flind, nothing else.
I hope the mini Cryfton to be something good that REALLY work at least at 10...20m.
I am very curious to see a test between your PDK and this.

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I dont know if PDK´s are better than Crypton ,however many objects and a little treasure was found with PDK-2 ,people who found belong to this forum.

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Old 10-17-2012, 10:46 PM
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Cryfton OBMD-1 is a simple magnetic field detector from Andy Flind, nothing else.
I hope the mini Cryfton to be something good that REALLY work at least at 10...20m.
I am very curious to see a test between your PDK and this.

Regards
The mexican team are using both PDK-2 and Krypton OBMD-1 side by side, the PDK already pick some silver,the Krypton dont know...
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The mexican team are using both PDK-2 and Krypton OBMD-1 side by side, the PDK already pick some silver,the Krypton dont know...
Hi Morgan,
I have also read reports of the crypton detecting in Mexico.
From what I read, it appears that the crypton is a good locator, but they found some problems that have not been solved yet.
Maybe the new crypton mini will have all problems solved.
I will wait to see the field results from the crypton mini.

Best wishes,
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:00 PM
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Hi guys

About this, i think is time to wait more about mini crypton, cause i also know what J_Player is saing below is correct.
Here in South America we are waiting to see more coments about this job of crypton.
Has i know this has something to do with Andreas circuits that was posted before on the forum and has we all know some devices today were inpired on this guy schematics.
Has i remember, there is a picture of Morgan job when he made his first pdk circuit on wires placed over Andreas schematics paper. So may be this is close to what we are thinking.
Unfortunally i haven´t read Andreas to ask more, but i trust on his job.

Regards

Nelson

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Hi Morgan,
I have also read reports of the crypton detecting in Mexico.
From what I read, it appears that the crypton is a good locator, but they found some problems that have not been solved yet.
Maybe the new crypton mini will have all problems solved.
I will wait to see the field results from the crypton mini.

Best wishes,
J_P
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:26 PM
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Hi Morgan,
I have also read reports of the crypton detecting in Mexico.
From what I read, it appears that the crypton is a good locator, but they found some problems that have not been solved yet.
Maybe the new crypton mini will have all problems solved.
I will wait to see the field results from the crypton mini.

Best wishes,
J_P
Hi.
Andy Flind is dead.
So, what new schematic they put inside????

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