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Old 05-31-2012, 08:46 PM
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I have some questions about lrl.s
1 - you must have contact with hands or bars must be insulated?
2-connect the oscillator to find the metal rod can be effective?
3- Do not use as a probe, two probes have power?
4 - How to find the generator helps metals?
5 - What is the best waveform generator to build?
6-Is the frequency of different metals?
7-What is the best power for the generator?
8-Crossing frequency of the transformer in the output waveform does not change?

9-And is located in the following four white capsules. What does it do them?
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:28 PM
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:45 PM
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hi to all'
I have some questions about lrl.s

1 - you must have contact with hands or bars must be insulated?
Doesn't matter. You'll get the same result whatever you do.

2-connect the oscillator to find the metal rod can be effective?
You could save a lot of money, wasted on batteries, by not switching it on.
It will work the same whether connected or not.

3- Do not use as a probe, two probes have power?
Try all the combinations. I bet the results are exactly the same.

4 - How to find the generator helps metals?
I don't understand the question.

5 - What is the best waveform generator to build?
It really makes no difference what frequency or waveform you use. In fact, you could save a lot of design effort by simply soldering some components from your scrap box together in a random fashion. That's what certain LRL manufacturers do on a daily basis.

6-Is the frequency of different metals?
If your asking which frequencies will resonant with different metals when used with the MFD device - the answer is "none of them".

7-What is the best power for the generator?
Probably zero. In other words, when it is switched off. That way you are only wasting time and not money.

8-Crossing frequency of the transformer in the output waveform does not change?

I've no idea what you're asking here.

9-And is located in the following four white capsules. What does it do them?
The capsules are similar to "witness chambers", and are supposed to contain a sample of the type of target you're searching for. Using some twisted logic, and no scientific basis whatsoever, the idea is that these samples will somehow resonate with the target. Go figure.
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ma30, you can ignore everything this guy says about MFD. (no name mentioned)

The inaccuracy of his replies proves he has no field experience and knows nothing about the subject of MFD, or LRL he pretends to have expertise in.

Of course, he does have the power to control this forum and delete anything, by anyone, he doesn't want posted on this forum.

Good luck in your quest for truthful answers. Dell
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:19 PM
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I could not get my questions answered
wm6 ..j-p and other freinds please answer me correctly
i need to ths informations
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:54 PM
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wm6 ..j-p and other freinds please answer me correctly
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Dear ma330

Qiaozhi is right.

You can waste your whole life on those false MFD theory only, without any results.

I cannot help you much this way.

Or with other word: I cannot calculate inductance of your body-dowsing-antenna and have no idea how to tune it on gold.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:06 PM
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Hahahahaha......
You must say that you don't know.......
All MFD have some problems but they work.....
I found a lot of objects with them.

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Old 06-02-2012, 12:17 PM
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Hi ma330,
You have already built the MFD correctly and you have used it in the correct manner.
Your experiments have already answered your questions.
The answers can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...670#post142670

You can see that your MFD is really working to locate the treasure, but it is difficult to recover the treasure that you found.

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Hi ma330,
You have already built the MFD correctly and you have used it in the correct manner.
Your experiments have already answered your questions.
The answers can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...670#post142670

You can see that your MFD is really working to locate the treasure, but it is difficult to recover the treasure that you found.

Best wishes,
J_P
I followed your link and all I saw was another example of arrogant WIS ignorance. Dell
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:29 PM
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Hi ma330,
You have read the warnings from me and from Carl-NC and from Qiaozhi and WM6 and many other people Long before you decided to build the LRL here --> http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18487

We told you MFD does not work.
But you did not believe.
I knew you would continue to look for a working MFD, so I decided to help you.
I showed you the MFD that Carl-NC designed because it is the best engineered example I could find.
The MFD you built is better than other commercial MFDs that cost many thousands of euros.
You have the best information that was gathered from LRL manufacturers and printed for anyone to build at a low cost.

I showed you this MFD and gave you very detailed instructions so you would be able to have the very best MFD in the world, and you could test it with your own hands instead of read stories about MFD.
But most important, I did not want you to waste your money with a commercial scam LRL.
I am happy to see you were able to complete the MFD at a very low cost.

Already you have experimented and what did you find?
A rock?
How long will you continue to look before you discover that MFD does not help you to find treasure?

I have a good suggestion for you. Consider this:
You can read that Dell Winders is calling me a liar. He says I am giving false information.
You can also read where Geo says that MFD works.

I think that Dell winders is wrong and Geo is wrong.
I think they cannot find any treasure with MFD and they cannot help anyone else to find treasure with MFD.

But what if Geo and Dell Winders are correct?
If they know a method for recovering treasure when using MFD, then they tell you how to do it.
My suggestion is that you make a post to ask Geo to show you how to recover treasure with a MFD locator.
Then make a second post to ask Dell Winders to show you how to recover treasure with a MFD locator.
I believe they cannot show you how to recover treasure with an MFD locator.
If you make the posts to ask them, you will see I am right.
I know that after a month passes, you will not find a treasure even if you follow the instructions they give you. (Maybe they will refuse to give you instructions?)

But maybe I am wrong.
If Geo or Dell Winders can show you how to recover treasure when using an MFD, then make a post to tell us all about the treasures that you find when using their methods.
I will be happy to congratulate you or Geo or Dell Winders if you can show your post with photos of all the treasures that you recovered when you use the methods they show you to make recoveries with MFD.


Best wishes,
J_P
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:18 AM
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If Geo or Dell Winders can show you how to recover treasure when using an MFD, then make a post to tell us all about the treasures that you find when using their methods.
I will be happy to congratulate you or Geo or Dell Winders if you can show your post with photos of all the treasures that you recovered when you use the methods they show you to make recoveries with MFD.


Also , I am agree , there isn’t movie for proof which LRods really working !!!!
Why???
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:57 AM
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Hi ma330,
You have read the warnings from me and from Carl-NC and from Qiaozhi and WM6 and many other people Long before you decided to build the LRL here --> http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18487

We told you MFD does not work.
But you did not believe.
I knew you would continue to look for a working MFD, so I decided to help you.
I showed you the MFD that Carl-NC designed because it is the best engineered example I could find.
The MFD you built is better than other commercial MFDs that cost many thousands of euros.
You have the best information that was gathered from LRL manufacturers and printed for anyone to build at a low cost.

I showed you this MFD and gave you very detailed instructions so you would be able to have the very best MFD in the world, and you could test it with your own hands instead of read stories about MFD.
But most important, I did not want you to waste your money with a commercial scam LRL.
I am happy to see you were able to complete the MFD at a very low cost.

Already you have experimented and what did you find?
A rock?
How long will you continue to look before you discover that MFD does not help you to find treasure?

I have a good suggestion for you. Consider this:
You can read that Dell Winders is calling me a liar. He says I am giving false information.
You can also read where Geo says that MFD works.

I think that Dell winders is wrong and Geo is wrong.
I think they cannot find any treasure with MFD and they cannot help anyone else to find treasure with MFD.

But what if Geo and Dell Winders are correct?
If they know a method for recovering treasure when using MFD, then they tell you how to do it.
My suggestion is that you make a post to ask Geo to show you how to recover treasure with a MFD locator.
Then make a second post to ask Dell Winders to show you how to recover treasure with a MFD locator.
I believe they cannot show you how to recover treasure with an MFD locator.
If you make the posts to ask them, you will see I am right.
I know that after a month passes, you will not find a treasure even if you follow the instructions they give you. (Maybe they will refuse to give you instructions?)

But maybe I am wrong.
If Geo or Dell Winders can show you how to recover treasure when using an MFD, then make a post to tell us all about the treasures that you find when using their methods.
I will be happy to congratulate you or Geo or Dell Winders if you can show your post with photos of all the treasures that you recovered when you use the methods they show you to make recoveries with MFD.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
I will try to say some things.
I had say how to work the MFDs but maybe you don't remember.
First of all you must good at dowsing so to keep the lrods very stable
Second.... the current that flows from MFD to ground must be >=10ma.
And third... i don't know if MA330 or aft or you know a place that there is really a treasure.
But with my method you will find for sure a lot of objects.

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Old 06-01-2012, 07:28 PM
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ma30, you can ignore everything this guy says about MFD. (no name mentioned)
Since a well known manufacturer of MFDs (no name mentioned) was either unable or unwilling to answer his questions, I felt duty bound to reply with some real facts. At least it will spare him the agony of reading a collection of pseudo-scientific claptrap.

Sorry if the truth hurts.
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hi to all'
I have some questions about lrl.s
1 - you must have contact with hands or bars must be insulated?
2-connect the oscillator to find the metal rod can be effective?
3- Do not use as a probe, two probes have power?
4 - How to find the generator helps metals?
5 - What is the best waveform generator to build?
6-Is the frequency of different metals?
7-What is the best power for the generator?
8-Crossing frequency of the transformer in the output waveform does not change?

9-And is located in the following four white capsules. What does it do them?
Dear ma330, Geo and Dell Winders is Right in this thema also and Dave J. , because I try test with my two probe Moleculer Freq. Discrimination and it works perfect , found gold bangle from 180 meter with special Gen freq. for gold.

Result is MFD works only with correct freq. and power gen.

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Dear ma330, Geo and Dell Winders is Right in this thema also and Dave J. , because I try test with my two probe Moleculer Freq. Discrimination and it works perfect , found gold bangle from 180 meter with special Gen freq. for gold.

Result is MFD works only with correct freq. and power gen.


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Hi humhum
Please more explain , how you can find correct frequency ??
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Please more explain , how you can find correct frequency ??

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aft, there is no "correct frequency" for LRL-MFD stuff. It's all fairy tales.

If it's gold you're interested in, I say that the gold frequencies are 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz, but Carl would probably say 14 kHz and 50 kHz. And oddly enough, I'd have to agree with him. Of course this pertains to electronic gold locating apparatus that actually works, not LRL's.

--Dave J.
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aft, there is no "correct frequency" for LRL-MFD stuff. It's all fairy tales.

If it's gold you're interested in, I say that the gold frequencies are 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz, but Carl would probably say 14 kHz and 50 kHz. And oddly enough, I'd have to agree with him. Of course this pertains to electronic gold locating apparatus that actually works, not LRL's.

--Dave J.

DaveJ. Thanks for your attention , I read carl MFD article , and know for gold was 5KHZ . but I hearing from you new frequency range!!!! .
Are you having successfully for gold with 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz?
If I remember correct , where of this forum LRLman said , frequency
Depended to geographical position .
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